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looking for anyone who has backed up to a dual layer dvd
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storm999
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20. June 2005 @ 14:30 |
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hi i have been backing up dvds for a few years now tried my first
dual layerd dvd it ripped ok using dvd ripper i used nero to burn all went well(the movie was star wars esb se) it burnt ok and plays in my dvd players but it locks up at around chapter 49.i dont know if this is where the dvd shifts to the second layer or what.
but i would like any and all input from anyone using dual layer.
i am using a pioneer dvr-109 verbatim dvd+r dl at 2.4 speed burnt with nero 6.
thanks joe
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Bruce999
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20. June 2005 @ 15:07 |
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I have now done 20 dual layer backups. All were staright "bit for bit" backups of a commercial DVD-9 disc that I owned. I read a lot on this subject, early on, and learned from other's misfires.
Here is what seemed to work for others, so I have used it every time:
-Use DVD+R (I have not tried any of the newer DVD-R dual layers yet, and I have yet to read of others' experiences with these.)
-Use Verbatim dual layer blanks (you made the right choice here). The Riteks seem to work for some, but not for others. The other brands out there reportedly had a lot of early problems.
-Use DVDDecrypter, make sure it is the most recent version (earlier versions of DVDDecrypter do not work).
-Open DVDDecrypter. Make sure all settings are at the default. Then, go the "MODE" menu at the top, and choose "ISO READ R"
-Rip the disc onto your hard drive using this mode.
-Once done, pop in your blank dual layer DVD+R from Verbatim.
-Go back to the "MODE" menu at the top, and now choose "ISO WRITE W."
-Navigate (using the browse feature) to the location where you ripped the ISO image, and look for the file which has an "MDS" extension. Choose that file.
-Burn this to the blank.
-This has worked for me 20 times, and all of my blanks were tested on the following players: Pansasonic RP-56, Panasonic ES-55 DVD Writer, Sony 5 disc carousel DVD player, Toshiba single disc player, and the DVD player in my wife's mini-van. Most have now been veiwed all of the way through to the end on all of these players. All of them have been viewed all of the way through on both of the Panasonic players. All of them have been at least "partially tested on all units, as in starting them up, playing a few minutes, using chapter forward to jump around, etc.
-I did make one coaster - the first time I tried. I had read that Nero was dangerous to use because of the risk of accidentally creating two layer breaks (especially if one used a different program to rip, which also specified a layer break.) So, I knew to avoid that route (even though some have been able to figure it out, now). My one and only coaster was because I failed to update my DVDDecrypter to the latest version, and my earlier one screwed it up.
Note that this method's days are now numbered, since it is anticipated that newer releases will probably (in some cases) have a new variation on Sony's ARccOS copy protection scheme on it, and DVDDecrypter will never be updated again, to handle those future releases. However, for the stuff that is out there right now, the above method should work fine.
You will end up with a perfect "bit for bit" copy of the original, with the layer break exactly where it occurred on the original.
Hope this helps,
-Bruce
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Bruce999
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20. June 2005 @ 15:09 |
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Addendum to my reply, above. Some additional info... My DVD burner is a Pioneer, the external model which is 16X and also capable of dual layer writing.
Thought this might be important,
-Bruce
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20. June 2005 @ 16:30 |
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I too have done several dual layer Verbatim +R, including backing up Star Wars set. Used the exact same method of Decrypter in iso read and the write mode. The backups came out perfect and played on all my standalones. The only coaster I made was when I used Nero to backup one. It would not play on anything and gave read errors. Decrypter is your best bet for dual layer backups. My two cents :~)
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framit
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20. June 2005 @ 20:20 |
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I have also backed -up six DL discs using the exact same method described above and all have worked perfect. The only additional program I use is Any DVD running in the background, no coasters so far. I have used Verb DL + blanks and the dreaded Memorex DL+ which code out as Ritek, all have worked problem free, the only drawback is price.
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22. June 2005 @ 05:56 |
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I have done 25 DL backups on poor Memorex disks (found them on sale in OfficeMax a couple of months ago, after I bought this computer). Only one coaster.....and I used Decrypter the same as you guys...... but also burned on CopytoDVD after using Decrypter. I only use Nero in copy mode for exact copies of already finished DVD backups (if needed). So far so good. But after learning who makes the better disks.... it's been Taiyo Yuden for me(until the DLs become cheaper). They just seem better made. I'm only into my first 50 spindle of the Yudens. Will know better after it's used out...... like a few months from now! So far so good and burning at 16x, too! I am going to slow it down since I also read that it is much more stable to do so instead of using speed!
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paztelu
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22. June 2005 @ 06:53 |
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Whats up with nero I used nero, after using DVD decrypter to rip the movie to the HD, no problems yet, so you people do not recommend me to use nero for DL backups?? not a coaster yet with this program butstill to risky?? plz inform me thanx
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Bruce999
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22. June 2005 @ 08:05 |
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As I mentioned above, some people have been able to make Nero work. However, many others have had problems. The most common problems resulted from their very confusing choices buried in the settings regarding "layer break."
For example, the option to "remove layer break." Depending on how the files were ripped to your hard drive (and what software you used, "file mode" versus "ISO mode, etc.), it is sometimes necessary to have this checked, and sometimes it is necessary to have this unchecked. This cost a lot of people coasters, at least early on.
And, Superbit titles caused a lot of problems with Nero early on (they reportedly do not use a typical layer break).
There is a thread over at Videohelp.com which has 206 posts on this topic.
By all means, if you have found a method that works for you, use it.
-Bruce
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paztelu
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22. June 2005 @ 10:44 |
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Well my method is rip files with decrypter with file mode, then burn (with the layer break and everything) with Nero, and it was readable on my standalone and PC :)
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