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Tomicino
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31. August 2005 @ 17:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm trying to burn files from my hard drive and the Nero burning process gets real close to completion, then it says please install proper disk. I've tried Memorex dvdrw, Memorex dvd+r, and ilo dvd-r. Can someone guide me in any way?
Thanx
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31. August 2005 @ 17:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Tomicino
Best thing to do is post your Nero log to sort it all out.
Few thoughts w/o log:
Is the movie compressed enuf to fit on the disc?
Get rid of those Memorex!!! The pits! ilo doesn't sound promising either.
Make sure you are not burning at max speed.
Make sure firmware is up to date.
Use quality media like Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim DataLifePlus.
Again get rid of those Memorex!
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31. August 2005 @ 17:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thank you for your quick reply. As far as posting my Nero log, well I'm a bit illiterate when it comes to this sort of thing. Also you asked about comression, I'm actually just trying to download a music video, one music video that is. So it really isn't that large of a file. The Memorex DVD+RW I use only for one reason. It's the only media, that I have found so far, that is recognized through my x-box.
Thanks again and any further help will certainly be appreciated!
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31. August 2005 @ 18:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Tomicino
Not a problem. Your log should be located here:
c:\program files\ahead\nero\nerohistory.log. Post the last one.
Just copy and paste from the text file. Be sure to edit out your serial # begins w/ 1A and is about 24 characters.
We gotta get you away from those Memerox and find something else your xbox likes!
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31. August 2005 @ 18:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
c:\program files\ahead\nero\nerohistory.log.
Tomicino
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31. August 2005 @ 19:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oops, I told you I'm a bit puter illiterate. I found out that when it comes to selecting the drive to be burned on and selecting the drive speed, it always says max and thats it. Could this be the problem? Also I just downloaded the free trial of Nero, could that be it? I can preview my future download, but when it comes time, it tells me that the compilation does not fit the cd i am using. Please insert one that does. Thanks Bink
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Tomicino
Def. try slowing the burn speed down - for memorsux 4x max.Click on the scroll bar to lower next to max. For the log open the text file and copy and paste that.
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1. September 2005 @ 15:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 12/16/2003 7:18:06 PM
Nero API version: 6.3.0.2
Using interface version: 6.0.0.29
Installed in: C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\
Application: ahead\NeroVision
Recorder: <LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S>Version: BS0H - HA 2 TA 0 - 6.3.0.2
Adapter driver: <> HA 2
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : SAMSUNG SP0802N atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-148A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-252S atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-148A D: CDRom0
SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-252S E: CDRom1
LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S F: CDRom2
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
CmdQueuing : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 509MB (522224kB)
Free physical memory: 276MB (282696kB)
Memory in use : 45 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

1.9.2005
NeroAPI
6:05:33 PM #1 Phase 90 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 253
Buffer Underrun Protection activated

6:05:33 PM #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running

6:05:33 PM #3 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3882
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

6:05:33 PM #4 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3882
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

6:05:33 PM #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3101
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using CD-R/RW media

6:06:36 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 240
Disc check failed: Medium not allowed (Wrong CD)

6:06:36 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245
Write in overburning mode: FALSE

6:06:37 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2085
Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S;
CD type reading failed
ATIP Data: ?

6:06:37 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 406
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================
Compilation cannot be written on that medium type.
(Medium in drive: DVD+RW. Medium required by compilation: CD-R/RW.)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 8/17/2001 3:07:32 PM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.16a, size=20576 bytes, created 8/2/2004 3:03:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)


[01.09.2005]------------------------------------
18:05:33 Robot error messages from:
====== *** NeroAPI, History File *** ======


Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 12/16/2003 7:18:06 PM
Nero API version: 6.3.0.2
Using interface version: 6.0.0.29
Installed in: C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\
Application: ahead\NeroVision
Recorder: <LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S>Version: BS0H - HA 2 TA 0 - 6.3.0.2
Adapter driver: <> HA 2
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : SAMSUNG SP0802N atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-148A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-252S atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-148A D: CDRom0
SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-252S E: CDRom1
LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S F: CDRom2
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
CmdQueuing : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 509MB (522224kB)
Free physical memory: 276MB (282884kB)
Memory in use : 45 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

1.9.2005
NeroAPI
6:08:30 PM #1 Phase 90 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 253
Buffer Underrun Protection activated

6:08:30 PM #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running

6:08:30 PM #3 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3882
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

6:08:30 PM #4 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3882
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

6:08:30 PM #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3101
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using CD-R/RW media

6:08:30 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 240
Disc check failed: Medium not allowed (Wrong CD)

6:08:30 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245
Write in overburning mode: FALSE

6:08:30 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2085
Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: RITEK, Media Type ID: R03, Product revision number: 2
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 3

6:08:30 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 406
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 8/17/2001 3:07:32 PM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.16a, size=20576 bytes, created 8/2/2004 3:03:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)


[01.09.2005]------------------------------------
18:08:30 Robot error messages from:
====== *** NeroAPI, History File *** ======


Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 12/16/2003 7:18:06 PM
Nero API version: 6.3.0.2
Using interface version: 6.0.0.29
Installed in: C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\
Application: ahead\NeroVision
Recorder: <LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S>Version: BS0H - HA 2 TA 0 - 6.3.0.2
Adapter driver: <> HA 2
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : SAMSUNG SP0802N atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-148A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-252S atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-148A D: CDRom0
SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-252S E: CDRom1
LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S F: CDRom2
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
CmdQueuing : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 509MB (522224kB)
Free physical memory: 276MB (283308kB)
Memory in use : 45 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

1.9.2005
NeroAPI
6:13:36 PM #1 Phase 90 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 253
Buffer Underrun Protection activated

6:13:36 PM #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running

6:13:36 PM #3 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3882
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

6:13:36 PM #4 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3882
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

6:13:36 PM #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3101
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using CD-R/RW media

6:13:51 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 240
Disc check failed: Medium not allowed (Wrong CD)

6:13:51 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245
Write in overburning mode: FALSE

6:13:51 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2085
Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S;
CD type reading failed
ATIP Data: ?

6:13:51 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 406
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================
Compilation cannot be written on that medium type.
(Medium in drive: DVD+R. Medium required by compilation: CD-R/RW.)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 8/17/2001 3:07:32 PM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.16a, size=20576 bytes, created 8/2/2004 3:03:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)


[01.09.2005]------------------------------------
18:13:36 Robot error messages from:
====== *** NeroAPI, History File *** ====

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 12/16/2003 7:18:06 PM
Nero API version: 6.3.0.2
Using interface version: 6.0.0.29
Installed in: C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\
Application: ahead\NeroVision
Recorder: <LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S>Version: BS0H - HA 2 TA 0 - 6.3.0.2
Adapter driver: <> HA 2
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : SAMSUNG SP0802N atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-148A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-252S atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-148A D: CDRom0
SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-252S E: CDRom1
LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S F: CDRom2
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
CmdQueuing : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 509MB (522224kB)
Free physical memory: 271MB (278160kB)
Memory in use : 46 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

1.9.2005
NeroAPI
6:16:59 PM #1 Phase 90 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 253
Buffer Underrun Protection activated

6:16:59 PM #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running

6:16:59 PM #3 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3882
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

6:16:59 PM #4 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3882
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

6:16:59 PM #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3101
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using CD-R/RW media

6:17:55 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 240
Disc check failed: Medium not allowed (Wrong CD)

6:17:55 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245
Write in overburning mode: FALSE

6:17:55 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2085
Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S;
CD type reading failed
ATIP Data: ?

6:17:55 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 406
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================
Insert empty disc to write to.
(Medium in drive: unknown. Medium required by compilation: CD-R/RW.)
Compilation cannot be written on that medium type.
(Medium in drive: DVD+R. Medium required by compilation: CD-R/RW.)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 8/17/2001 3:07:32 PM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.16a, size=20576 bytes, created 8/2/2004 3:03:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)


[01.09.2005]------------------------------------
18:16:59 Robot error messages from:
====== *** NeroAPI, History File *** ======
There is the info you requested, now what is my next step? Thanks again!!!

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 7. September 2005 @ 05:03

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2. September 2005 @ 03:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Tomicino -
Quote:
1a23-**********************
EDIT OUT your serial number from the various points in the logfile post. (use the pencil icon towards right of post)
Quote:
Nero API version: 6.3.0.2
- Nero's too old, update to latest, 6.6.0.16 here - http://www.nero.com/en/nero-up.php
Quote:
Recorder: <LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S>Version: BS0H
- your burner's firmware is 3 revisions behind (out of date) - update to BS0S from here - http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=1934

Firmware is what teaches your burner about media/newer media/burn speeds
Quote:
Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
- is this burner external to the PC, ie in a USB enclosure or similar ?. if it's not, ie it's internal to the PC, then try this to reinstall the 'ATAPI' drivers - http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/FAQ.htm
Quote:
Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder
- yup, Nero's too old to recognise your burner. Update Nero as previously advised.
Quote:
Disc check failed: Medium not allowed (Wrong CD)
- hmmm, let's worry about all that later, when all your stuff's up to date
Quote:
Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S;
CD type reading failed
ATIP Data: ?
see previous comment, let's get everything up to date
Quote:
Insert empty disc to write to.
(Medium in drive: unknown. Medium required by compilation: CD-R/RW.)
Compilation cannot be written on that medium type.
(Medium in drive: DVD+R. Medium required by compilation: CD-R/RW.)
- there's a big clue - the burn is expecting a blank CD and you're feeding it a blank DVD




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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 2. September 2005 @ 03:56

Tomicino
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2. September 2005 @ 19:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey thanks for helping me get my firmware updated, however after I uptdateed the newest version of Nero, I am unable to get the serial # unblocked....
Tomicino
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2. September 2005 @ 19:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Okay, sorry about the last post, I think I'm all updated and ready to go. However, I'm trying to drag a dvd file, that I moved to my desktop, into a menu on Nero. What do you think would be the best menu to burn a dvd from my hard drive?
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2. September 2005 @ 20:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Tomicino
Please edit out your serial #'s in the log - there's 2 more that I can see. One at the beginning and one towards the end. They begin w/1a23.
For burning the disc you can use BurningRom or if compression is needed Recode.
Tomicino
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6. September 2005 @ 04:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry about the ser#'s, to be honest I don't know how to detlete. Otherwise I would.
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6. September 2005 @ 16:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Tomicino
In the top of the reply you posted across from the date (right hand side) you'll see what looks like a a notepad w/ a pencil. Click on that for the post you want to edit. It will reopen the post for you to edit.
Did everything finally work on your burning?
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6. September 2005 @ 17:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey I gotcha now. As far as the burning goes, well, I guess I will have to try some of the recommended media to be recocgnized through my xbox. Taiyo Yuden dvd-r's and verbatim datalife plus, does that sound about right? I got the files to be burned and playable through my computer, I will try new media for my xbox and see what happens. Thanks alot Bink, great help!!!
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6. September 2005 @ 20:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey you still have 1 serial # left in the middle - get that one too!
As for disc yes those 2 brands are the best. Don't know though if xbox prefers + or -r. Glad you got things going!
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