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CRAZYmack
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17. February 2003 @ 08:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
people always say they're better, well i have tried them, and since their resolution is 480x480, the video is a square and its stretched, so i don't like them as much. Also, i posted something about this a long time ago, I wanted to burn my VCD's at 1x because thats what my older dvd player can read, but i only have the option to do it at 4x in nero? how to i burn it at 1x?
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ogryzek
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20. February 2003 @ 06:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I do have a comment concerning burning.

The speed at which you burn has nothing to do with the speed at which you read. In theory the pits should always be the same size no matter how fast the burner spins the disk (as it adjusts the laser pulses acordingly).

The real issue is to buy media that would be roughly in the same speed range as your recorder. While newer multi-speed CD-Rs might boast 1x to (lets say) 48x, personally I would use those only with 24X or faster writer. If you match old 4x drive with high speed media (for the sake of our discussion 48x) it is more likely that you will over-burn your CD-Rs - and I do not mean 'overburn' as in squeezing few extra MB at the end of the disk. I do mean damaging the laser sensitive layer of your disks by overheating. It's almost like using ultra fast photo film (3200) on a bright sunny day at high noon - yes, it can be done but why?

Bottom line: burn your disks as fast as your burner allows you and get a truck-load of the older 12X (or slower) media (while you still can).

Life is what happens to you while you're out doing something else...

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 20. February 2003 @ 06:19

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20. February 2003 @ 07:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ogryzek, the official recommended burning speed for vcd/audio cds is 4x no matter what media/burner you are using! Read around the forum and you will see the amount of people who have had vcd/svcd problems fixed by lowering their burning speed. Also, if you'd like to test it your self, get a 24x cd and burn some mp3 (downloaded, not your own creation) at 24x and try it in a few cd players, it plays fine but try fast forwarding/rewinding and its much more likely to skip than one burned at 4x.

CRAZYmack, 4x shouldn't give you any problem at all, unless your standalone's stats actually stated "will only accept cd-rs burned at 1x" which i'd doubt! SVCD is much better quality than vcd!! I dont have to worry about 480x480 because i live in Europe so I use 480x576!


CRAZYmack
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20. February 2003 @ 12:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well i live in europe as well but my dvd player is dual zone so i just make it ntsc, but my problem is i always hit keep aspect ratio but on my SVCD its 480x480 and its a box and its stretched. And no, it didn't say on my DVD player that it only plays them burned at 1x but on vcdhelp.com i looked up my dvd player and all the users said to burn cd-rw discs at 1x and it'll work. The odd thing is that my older dvd player says video cd but it doesn't play them? any thoughts?
ogryzek
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21. February 2003 @ 05:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
First: Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa... Dela - you were right... recording at lowest possible speed helps with some players. (I am still thinking this is due to DVD manufacturers using bottom of the barrel drives to cut costs)

Second: CRAZYmack - are you saying that your older DVD player that supposedly should play VideoCD does not play SuperVideoCDs ? or does not play VideoCDs?

Third: The way your DVD player stretches or not-stretches the picture can be somewhat adjusted during conversion from DVD to SVCD. So you have to be more specific what software you use. Than it seems that some DVD players are better than others when playing whatever you have created. I have two different players and the picture is not identical on both of them.

Life is what happens to you while you're out doing something else...
CRAZYmack
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21. February 2003 @ 06:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes, what i'm saying is that my older dvd player says on the case DVD/video-cd/mp3 but it doens't play SVCD's or VCD's i've tried about 30 times all on different medium. ANd i went to VCDhelp.com and they said that it will play them as long as their burnt at 1x but i can't get nero to burn them at 1x.
ogryzek
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21. February 2003 @ 07:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As far as my memory serves, any DVD player should also play VCDs (aren't those both Sony's contraptions?). If your player says it will play VCD - it should.

However only players marked with SVCD logo (or otherwise marketed as SVCD compliant) will play SVCDs. Note that even though VCD and SVCD names sound almost identical, those are completely separate standards (even if they use similar technology).


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21. February 2003 @ 15:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
CRAZYmack, look at the documentation of your dvd player and see if it specifically says VCD1.1 or VCD2.0?? Nero Burning Rom burns VCD 2.0 just for the record!
CRAZYmack
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22. February 2003 @ 04:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OMG DELA!! thank you, i've been wondering why it doesn't play VCD's for the longest time, i didn't even thing about vcd 1.1 and vcd 2.0!
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22. February 2003 @ 07:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So does it play 1.1 or 2.0?? You can burn both with VCDEasy!
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