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19. October 2005 @ 16:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi I just purchased Nero Ultra Recode 2,problem is when installed it causes problems.When I backup a movie it plays in my standalone player but wont recopy dvd shrink keeps giving me a C/R error.I had OEM Nero 6 that came with my LG burner & is it possible that when I installed new Ultra I installed all programs which included another copy of Nero6 & could this be the cause of my problems ?
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19. October 2005 @ 16:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Need some more details here. First of all, Recode is different than Nero Express. Secondly, before you installed Recode 2, it would have been prudent to uninstall your Nero that came with the burner, as this is considered by Nero as an "OEM" program. After unintsall, I would run a tool from Nero called Nero General Clean Tool. This will remove your Nero serial #s etc. from your system for a Clean install.Them Re-Start>Re-Install> Re-Start> Update.To the details, are you trying to Back-Up a copy protected DVD? Shrink & Recode will not work TOGETHER. Shrink WILL use Nero Express to burn though. Recode is very different than Nero Express. Give more Deatils so we may help you out.

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19. October 2005 @ 23:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You don't need to use DVD Shrink to recopy. Just go into Nero burning rom and select the 'copy disc' option.
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20. October 2005 @ 01:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@oziwombat

What kind of media are you using (that's including the one you've successfully backed up)? Cheap media is hard to re-copy sometimes, especially if you burned them at high speeds.

What model is your LG burner? Go here http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_all.php and update to the latest firmware if there is any available for your LG dvd burner. Updating your burner's firmware will enhance the media compatibility and burning performances most of the times.

WARNING: Do not "update/upgrade" your SAMSUNG BD-D5XXX series (Bluray Player), or else you cant enjoy any of your movie files.
How 2 downgrade Samsung BD-D5XXX Series Bluray player http://forum.samygo.tv/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=4244
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20. October 2005 @ 03:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This appears to be a bug with this program. I have posted similar inquires about this same problem, without any answers. For some reason backups only play on burners or standalones. To make another backup copy; you should be able to just copy the contents, but this will not work with a Recode backup?
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20. October 2005 @ 03:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for your replies Firstly to Bunnyrip No I did not uninstall my OEM Nero Express as I do not have a good understanding of the way PC software works & believed the OEM Nero was needed to drive the burner.The new Nero Ultra Recode 2 includes
Nero 6 Ultra edition
Nerovision Express 2
Neromix,photoshow express,easyreader,&In CD4
Should I uninstall all Nero as per your instructions & start again or toss the Ultra & go back to the OEM Nero 6 & can it be updated to 6.6.0.16? I have done over 200 backups using Shrink & Decrypter With present media & I have been following the Forums tips for past 6 mths Burner is LG4120b[117] I had no problems before Ultra install
Many thanks


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20. October 2005 @ 04:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
haven't read the whole thread yet but saw enough to say...don't install the horrid (and unnecessary InCD)...



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20. October 2005 @ 04:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks Discmania
Problem is the movie I have ripped to my H/D with Shrink/Decypter & either copying a new backup thru Shrink or Nero burning Rom the copy when Run thru Nero disc scan has all red squares at the bottom of the scan

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20. October 2005 @ 04:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks Creaky
There is 3 diferent IN CD'S 1 came with burner 1 with Ultra & latest Nero update 4.3.20.1 None of these needed ? Do i have to un install in cd & run the Nero cleaner to finish ? What S/Ware do I have to use to drive the burner ?


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20. October 2005 @ 05:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just uninstall all of Nero and then just reinstall Nero 6 Ultra. When you have done this get the latest update for Nero 6 from this site - download and install. Then go to start - control panel - add/remove programmes - find inCD and uninstall it. Reboot computer and try burning again.
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20. October 2005 @ 11:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
...what he said :)

..you may need to also use Nero's Clean Tools to fully remove Nero from your pc before reinstalling..



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20. October 2005 @ 21:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for all your hints I uninstalled all Nero & ran the cleaner & rebooted. I then installed new Nero Ultra & updated to 6.6.0.16 Then tried a couple of burns & both had the same problem. I then uninstalled Ultra & ran cleaner rebooted & put my OEM Nero Express back in & now every thing works like it should. Even my rom drive reads dvd's again.Looks like I am stuck with the old OEM Nero6 .Now the question is can I update the OEM to 6.6.0.16 I can only assume that this Nero must have some sort of driver built into it.

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21. October 2005 @ 02:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
let's get to the bottom of this.... how about updating to 6.6.0.16 and then running Nero's info-tool and pasting the (long) output here, it should highlight any possible conflicts. Nero is a great program but it just needs a few tweaks to burn forever more. And the logfiles are excellent at reporting on most aspects of a pc regards it's burning setup..



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21. October 2005 @ 13:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Creaky Thanks for your input but at the moment I have a hard drive full of backups to burn out & while the old OEM is working so well & I want to make hay while the sun shines,& my time on the PC is limited due to having to share it with my wife & two grand kids.
I to want to get to the bottom of the problem. Can I get back to this next week? Deleting IN CD seemed to work wonders with my old Samsung ROM drive it's reading DVD'S again.

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21. October 2005 @ 13:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
no worries, you come back to the thread whenever you want. that's what i love about forums, once you're subscribed you just get a mail. i'll still be here :)



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21. October 2005 @ 14:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Now the question is can I update the OEM to 6.6.0.16 I can only assume that this Nero must have some sort of driver built into it.
You can download Nero-6.6.0.16.exe and NVE-3.1.0.16.exe first and install both of them. If you have the serial number for Nero 6 Ultra, once you enter it, you are updated completely without having to re-install from the OEM version.
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21. October 2005 @ 22:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Creaky I had the PC to myself today & now I know I can go back to my OEM version let's see if you can sort this out for me & I wont get into trouble from my better half about wasting $30 on something that does not work. OK I uninstalled OEM & ran the cleaner & rebooted & Reinstalled Ultra. 1st disc burnt & verifyed,ran thru Nero disc scan & had red squares @ the start & finish but ran thru shrink & got no CRC error 2nd one verified with errors Log below



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WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=45056 bytes, created 7/17/2002 9:20:56 AM
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 6:35:34 PM
Nero Version: 6.6.0.16
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 16b
(Nero Express)
Recorder: <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B>Version: A117 - HA 1 TA 1 - 6.6.0.16
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: <SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-612 >Version: 0.5 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.16
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD800JB-00JJA0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : ST340016A atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-612 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-612 E: CDRom0
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B F: CDRom1
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AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 70254592 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 479MB (491040kB)
Free physical memory: 122MB (125156kB)
Memory in use : 74 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

22.10.2005
UDF/ISO compilation
12:20:26 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation started

12:20:26 PM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

12:20:26 PM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6356
UDF document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
UDF Mode : UDF/ISO bridge
UDF Revision : 1.02
UDF Partition Type : physical
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet :FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

12:20:26 PM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files sorted

12:20:26 PM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running

12:20:26 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B running

12:20:26 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

12:20:26 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

12:20:26 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

12:20:26 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2202143 (489:21.68, 4301MB)

12:20:26 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

12:20:26 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
Recorder: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: RITEKG - 05
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

12:20:26 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

12:20:26 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2202144 (2202144) = #2202144/489:21.69
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2202144 blocks [HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B]
--------------------------------------------------------------

12:20:26 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
Prepare recorder [HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4509990912, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2202144 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

12:20:26 PM #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files started

12:20:26 PM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4120
Cache writing successful.

12:20:26 PM #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files completed

12:20:26 PM #19 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

12:20:26 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2654
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

12:20:26 PM #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2379
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

12:20:26 PM #22 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21708
Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON

12:20:26 PM #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2534
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

12:20:26 PM #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8862
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 0.0 (0)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 2FE10 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 2FFA0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 30 01 02 04 06 00 00 - 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 .0..............
00 02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

12:20:34 PM #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
12:20:34.718 - HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B\H1 T1 : Queue again later

12:34:27 PM #26 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
<HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2202144 (219A20h), lenght 0 blocks

12:34:27 PM #27 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

12:34:27 PM #28 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2774
EndDAO: Last written address was 2202143

12:34:45 PM #29 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process completed successfully at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

12:34:45 PM #30 Phase 78 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Data verification started

12:43:27 PM #31 SCSI -1128 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1434
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x049E1800
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x11
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0x28 0x00 0x00 0x20 0xEF 0xF0 0x00 0x00 0x10 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0xF0 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x20 0xEF 0xF0 0x10
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C 0x11 0x00

12:43:31 PM #32 SCSI -1128 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1434
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x049E1800
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x11
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0x28 0x00 0x00 0x20 0xF0 0xC0 0x00 0x00 0x10 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0xF0 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x20 0xF0 0xC0 0x10
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C 0x11 0x00

12:43:31 PM #33 SectorVerify 20 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 9938
Read errors from sector 2158576 to 2158591

12:43:58 PM #34 SCSI -1128 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1434
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x049E1800
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x11
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0x28 0x00 0x00 0x21 0x8E 0xB0 0x00 0x00 0x10 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0xF0 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x21 0x8E 0xB0 0x10
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C 0x11 0x00

12:43:58 PM #35 SectorVerify 20 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 9938
Read errors from sector 2158784 to 2158799

12:44:00 PM #36 SCSI -1128 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1434
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x049E1800
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x11
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0x28 0x00 0x00 0x21 0x8F 0x10 0x00 0x00 0x10 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0xF0 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x21 0x8F 0x10 0x10
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C 0x11 0x00

12:44:00 PM #37 SectorVerify 20 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 9938
Read errors from sector 2199216 to 2199231

12:44:02 PM #38 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

12:44:02 PM #39 SectorVerify 20 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 9938
Read errors from sector 2199312 to 2199327

12:44:02 PM #40 Phase 81 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Data verification failed


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=16877 bytes, created 7/17/2002 8:53:02 AM
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/4/2004 3:59:42 PM (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option

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21. October 2005 @ 22:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Scubabud
Thanks for your advice but I would not be surprised if the 6.6.0.16 update is causing my problems. I have posted my log & Creaky is going to have a look at it.

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logfile is in notepad as i type...



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Quote:
Physical memory : 479MB (491040kB)
Free physical memory: 122MB (125156kB)
Memory in use : 74 %
- not too bad, but still try to close on more stuff to ensure more free memory..
Quote:
Recorder: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: RITEKG - 05
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193
- can't remember if we are sure these are authentic G05's...
Quote:
Burn process completed successfully at 4x (5,540 KB/s)
- hmmm...
Quote:
Data verification started

Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)

Read errors from sector 2158784 to 2158799

Data verification failed
- Nero's not a happy bunny. well the two obvious things left here are maybe the media's at fault, or the burner (sorry haven't re-read the whole thread thru, i'm groggy as was working 'til 02:30 after being up since 05:30 previous day).





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Hi Creaky Sorry to wake you up,GO5's are the real deal,I have always had good results with the ones I have purchased from my local PC shop,pack is green & Ritek branded. The last ones I bought from this supplier were the Fuji made discs but for some reason these are coded G05. Other discs used are Princo 4 speed and always get good results from these.Looks like I am stuck with another 50 discs that my LG does not like.I know you don't like Princo but Ihave good results yet they are also failing , this does not happen with the OEM Nero.

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Hi Creaky When you say to close more stuff to free up memory? How? You are dealing with a PC dummy here,I do not multi task & I follow all of tips from you guy's on burning. So if you can lead me thru on how to do this.Does the Ultra use more memory than Express?


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@oziwombat

If burning is taking place, and there are errors at or near the end of your burns, either it's the media, the burner or you are burning too close to the end of the disk. Try setting your burns to a maximum of 4300 in Recode2. You did say that you had errors also at the beginning of your burn as well, so it tends to show bad media or the burner once again. Princo is the pits when it comes to media and is at the bottom of the scale. Maybe you should try some real quality media before going any farther and better yet, another program other then Nero to burn one that you know was a quality burn before.

Again, IMO Nero is not causing your problem, it is software and the problem is hardware or media related.

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23. October 2005 @ 05:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks Creaky Looks like I will go back to the OEM Nero until I get another burner. I now have around 130 Ritek[G05] discs on hand so it's cheaper to replace my LG & get a Ritek friendly burner. I am looking at the Benq 1640.By the way I never burn more than 4x & 4300mb I knew you did not like the Princo's but they work well for the grand kids & I use the Ritek[code fujifilm03] for my master copy's & I get very few coasters with either discs. There is not a big selection of media avail in Australia
Thanks again

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