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Jimme
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6. March 2009 @ 04:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
We are on Ch0ru$ MMDS in Cork. We had 3 boxes running in parallel from the same ariel up to recently, before the ariel got damaged in the wind. I ordered new parts from bubble supplies and replicated the system exactly as it used to be. Now 2 of my boxes (The Box-T and Eurovox TX) work perfectly, however my original Dreambox 600T (not a clone) wont find any transponders?

When I enter the manual scan menu on the Dreambox, it shows the following:

SNR = between 98% and 99%
AGC = around 65%
BER = 0


I have tried both automatic (using terresrial.xml) and manual scans (using the frequencies that work on the other boxes), but I cannot get a LOCK. When I do the scan it does not find any transponders (or any channels - obviously).

It seems very strange as I know my H/W set-up is correct (the other 2 boxes work). I have tried flashing the box again with the latest "PLi Jade Final - for the Dreambox DM600PVR", but still no luck.

Any ideas greatly appreciated - Thanks.
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mgb17
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6. March 2009 @ 15:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hopefully the voltage from the power inserter its blocked from traveling down the cable and damage the dreambox tuner.
SID01
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7. March 2009 @ 08:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by leni2000:
I'm in the same boat gracem, trying to get one also. came accross this one, bit expensive when P&P is included.
http://www.tvaerials.com/product.aspx?productid=1124

The one that Maplin sell is only rated @ 100mA so no good
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?Modu...oy=25m9


Hi guys, I have a Ch***s MM*S box and a Eur*vo* *X. My problem is that I can only get a signal on the box which has the power supply/downconverter attached. I have the proper splitter in place (DC passthrough). My question is how do i get a signal on both at the same time (different rooms :-0)Do I need a second power supply/downconverter?
any help or advice would be greatly appreciated
lark8
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9. March 2009 @ 04:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i am having the same problems as jimme with the signal dropping off and am wondering how he got he's sorted in the end. level about 80% and quality about 48% half my stations are perfect and the rest keep freezing or dropping off, checked all the usual stuff. the aerial i am using is a wire one 21db, thinking of getting the mesh one 24db will this sort it.
Jimme
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9. March 2009 @ 05:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by lark8:
i am having the same problems as jimme with the signal dropping off and am wondering how he got he's sorted in the end. level about 80% and quality about 48% half my stations are perfect and the rest keep freezing or dropping off, checked all the usual stuff. the aerial i am using is a wire one 21db, thinking of getting the mesh one 24db will this sort it.
i'm afraid i never got that installation working :(

i believe there were too many obstructions (mainly tall trees) between the house and the transmitter.

i have found from time to time that a poor quality downconverter can cause such problems. i purchased one from bubblesupplies recently that worked very well.

let me know how u get on.
Jimme
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9. March 2009 @ 05:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by mgb17:
Hopefully the voltage from the power inserter its blocked from traveling down the cable and damage the dreambox tuner.
if the dreambox tuner was damaged would the SNR and AGC readings still be so good? in the manual scan section everything seems fine except i cant get a LOCK.

if the tuner is damaged, would it be a case of just buying a replacement tuner module or would i need to replace the whole box. the dreambox 600T is rather expensive :(
mgb17
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9. March 2009 @ 15:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The tuner at a 600t is pluggable and therefor easy to replace.
Try the whole thing first at a other aerial befor you think about replacing anything.
Fano
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9. March 2009 @ 15:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Jimme:
Originally posted by mgb17:
Hopefully the voltage from the power inserter its blocked from traveling down the cable and damage the dreambox tuner.
if the dreambox tuner was damaged would the SNR and AGC readings still be so good? in the manual scan section everything seems fine except i cant get a LOCK.

if the tuner is damaged, would it be a case of just buying a replacement tuner module or would i need to replace the whole box. the dreambox 600T is rather expensive :(

Normally if the tuner is blown the AGC is zero.
If the tuner is faulty all you need is a replacement dvb-t tuner ,they are ~40 euro .
a7v8x
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10. March 2009 @ 11:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just wondering if there is a cheap meter for helping to site the mmds antenna. I have one of the cheap Lidl sat meters would I be able to use that and if so what side of the power supply does it go?
satguy99
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12. March 2009 @ 05:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the lidl sat meter or any sat meter will not work ,,,different technology
Jimme
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20. March 2009 @ 08:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, got a new tuner module for my Dreambox 600T - but still no luck!

Again, I am 100% sure the feed is working. Both my Eurovox TX and The Box-T are both working flawlessly.

I have copied the terrestrial.xml file to the box - does not work. I have also inputted the frequencies/settings manually. I seem

Here is a picture of my setting:



I've tried multiple flashing images and I've tried flashing backup images which used to work for me on the same box. Would anyone have any ideas. Don't want to throw out a ?300+ box :-(
mgb17
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20. March 2009 @ 09:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It looks like you are at frequency scheme B.
Did you try a scan at 258000 or 274000?
If you are at frequency scheme A try 234000.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 20. March 2009 @ 09:09

Jimme
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20. March 2009 @ 09:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by mgb17:
It looks like you are at frequency scheme B.
Did you try a scan at 258000 or 274000?
No I haven't tried a scan at 258mhz or 274mhz yet. I tried the same frequencies as reported by the working Eurovox TX and The Box-T. This includes 242mhz as shown in the image I posted. I am using a new downconverter (see downconverter details) - could this make a difference? I am on my way home soon and I'll give it a try.

Originally posted by mgb17:
If you are at frequency scheme A try 234000.
I have tried 234000, but get the same result (no lock).

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 20. March 2009 @ 09:41

Jimme
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20. March 2009 @ 12:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by mgb17:
It looks like you are at frequency scheme B.
Did you try a scan at 258000 or 274000?
If you are at frequency scheme A try 234000.
Have just tried 234000, 258000 and 274000. None of them work :(

Most of the time the BER is 0, but occasionally jumps to 1,654,290. But it is never anything in between. I realize that the high BER figure indicates a lot of noise on the line, but when I connect the line into either of my other 2 boxes I get perfect reception.

Can I ask if the following settings are correct:


Inv: off
Constellation: 64-QAM
Guard: 1/32
Bandwidth: 8MHz
Transm. Mode: 8k
Coderate LP: 2/3
Coderate HP: 2/3
-----------------
use ONIT: off
use BAT: off
only Free: off
network search: off
-----------------
disable 5v: on

alec76
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20. March 2009 @ 18:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Jimme, i know u pain:) it is new downconverter+ dreambox 600
scanning issue . if u looking for 242 mhz u have to do 241900000 instead and so on
btw pli IOLITE image whould be the best for scanning (not jade)
i'll pm u my terrestrial.xml -- 99% u will be sorted m8
- dont use manual scan with jade - IT IS WON'T lock
do automatic scan(jade or iolite)

or manual with the Iolite
PLi® Iolite 2008 Edition - for the Dreambox DM600pvr
http://www.pli-images.org/downloads.php?cat_id=8
check private messages :)

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yellow32
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23. March 2009 @ 11:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi all
I was looking at an MMDS aerial on sale from a pretty good website.. would this work in place of a c****s aerial? running a Digivox T in Cla*e. Is it handy to hook up and would there be a lot of maintenance with it?

Cheers for any info
jicjoc
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23. March 2009 @ 18:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi guys,
I cant seem to find a complete step by step guide for a dreambox
Can someone point me at a step by step guide to flashing a dreambox 500 from start to finish please?

I have a box and had it working with Gemini 4? before xmas. But it only decrypted the RTE channels not sky. What i had done at the time was cobbled together and id like to do it right this time.

I couldnt figure out how to get the keys on there, or where they go? Is there an all in one image that includes keys that can be downloaded?

Thanks again
J
jicjoc
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25. March 2009 @ 18:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Things are going much better now withdw 2.0 installed. It found a transponder and is scanning it now. How long does a Transponder Scan take? Its 15 mins in now and no progress...
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2. April 2009 @ 08:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi see from the many threads that that the introduction of the new encryption (Nagra 3) which appears to be a more robust encryption system, means that those using cable boxs are loosing there channels. Wondering if the MMDS system is doomed to the same fate and if so when are they likely to start the changeover?
yammagamm
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2. April 2009 @ 12:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
mmds gone there now as well, is it gone to nag3 now ?as my setup can handle nag2
dcummo
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2. April 2009 @ 16:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey yamm where are you im in wexford and my system gone down and so is a friend of mine in wexford , didnt think nag3 would be in that quick down this part. my friends sis has a sub. with ch....s and she has had no new box or card or anything just wondering is it just the sysmtem down as it is happened before any taughts
wiseguy25
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2. April 2009 @ 17:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
any boxes down were not fixed with the last fix that came out either download the latest software and flash or change keys manualy......
Benny200
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2. April 2009 @ 18:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Guys,

MMDS Digivox gone down this evening - are any new codes available or are we doomed??
wiseguy25
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2. April 2009 @ 18:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Benny200:
Guys,

MMDS Digivox gone down this evening - are any new codes available or are we doomed??
if your box had the latest software it would still b working.......

one of mine dyed just just copied the keys from the other 1 that was still working..... oxo
either find a box thats still working nd copy the keys or install the latest software or wait form them to come on line..

no need to be panicing.....
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spongerob
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4. April 2009 @ 09:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
alot of the good channels are gone to nagra 3 now :-( all the s*y sports/movies, and all but se*an*a ireland are gone for me. no fix coming by the looks of it. ah well...was good while it lasted.

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