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10. March 2008 @ 22:21 |
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Ah yes, that dreaded word "buy".
You have NO idea how I managed to get a quad core. I'm BARELY managing this. So I'm not big on spending too money extra money right now.
Unlike all you big boys here, I don't have a job. I don't get an allowance either.
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10. March 2008 @ 22:31 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
I don't have a job. I don't get an allowance either.
Well go get one you lazy bum!!!! j/k.... I remember when I was 16. I had summer odd jobs until then and I chose to work in a pizza restaurant for the summer. Good job and it gave me extra cash. lol. Of course that $3.85 (i think that's right) an hour wouldn't go very far now.
Russ (theonejrs) I'm sorry for not posting on your "promotion". I went back looking for something and found that post. Of course I may have posted and don't remember, there's about a 2 week stretch when I was sick that I basically don't remember anything anyways.... lol
So CONGRATS buddy!!!!!
cincyrob you and I are in about the same boat. lol. Well you have about 500 more posts than I do but the SV thing is what I'm talking about. :P
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10. March 2008 @ 22:36 |
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Yeah except I kinda lied to you all. I'm actually 15 lol.
The day I turn 16, I'm off to Best Buy. It's kinda depressing too because I'm in 11th grade and all my friends like like 17. How the hell are you supposed to ask out girls TWO years older?!
Anyway, Best Buy... Better than working fast food.
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10. March 2008 @ 22:44 |
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The P5N-E had any multiplier you liked, you set the memory speed the same way as you would the CPU speed. Only trouble was, more than half the settings didn't work, as they were black holes!
The limiting multipliers used on the Gigabyte might be there for a reason. It's odd that you can't get your RAM to 1066mhz though, maybe you had a duff batch. If that's the case, Crucial will probably replace it for free.
Abuzar: Not only do I not have a job, but I have loans that I'll have to start paying off not too far down the line..
As for your age, I'm a little disappointed. I had the good grace to tell everyone how old I was, so I expected you'd done the same. Nonetheless your ability to advise people on the forums is very creditable for a 15 (and presumably when you started 14) year old.
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10. March 2008 @ 22:51 |
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I know it's kinda bad, but I was like hey it's the internet. Whatever, it's not like it's a big deal, just a little white lie.
Don't mind...
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10. March 2008 @ 23:09 |
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cincyrob,
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what if i changed my CPU multi to say 8x then put the freq to 450. still a 3.6ghz but the mem at2.4 multi would be 1080. just a hair over 1066...is this possible? would i need to up the mem volts if it can be done?
In theory this should work! It doesn't always work in the real world! Try it, is all I can say!
Thanks for the congrats, BTW!
Best Regards,
Russ
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11. March 2008 @ 00:17 |
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ok after takeing care of some stupidity..i set my CPU multi at 8x450mhz= 3.6ghz. which is where i been all day stable. and my mem multi is at 2.4 giving me a 1080mhz just a tad over the rated 1066. havent run orthos on it yet. thats next..heres CPU-z on what i have now.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/1080.png
is there a benefit to runnning the higher multi? or does it matter if getting the same numbers??? speaking of numbers. my rated FSB is now 1800 isnt that high? i think the board is only rated at 1600????
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11. March 2008 @ 00:22 |
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Don't worry about the FSB, your board can handle it.
People set higher multi on their memory because faster memory=better performance. Except it doesn't really work that way. You say your memory timings? Well the higher those timings are, the less that extra speed will help.
Actually if you run your memory at a 1:1 ratio and lower your timings to 4-4-4-12 I think your performance will increase, because those are REALLY loose timings.
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11. March 2008 @ 00:35 |
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11. March 2008 @ 00:44 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
my mem is cas5 wont trying to run it at cas4 numbers mess it up?
tried something different here. look at this.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/40.png
If you still have the 8x multi then you're at 3.6. ;)
rob it won't mess up your RAM it just won't run at that speed. ;) You ca lower your timings to 5-5-5-18 and should be able to run at 1066 with little issues. You might have to play with some of the timings a little but you should be able to tighten to those numbers. :D
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11. March 2008 @ 00:46 |
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Whoa, BADASS!
Of course you temps are 61C, are you comfortable with that?
Also no it the same principle as overclocking your memory. The worst that will happen is that it wont work with that setting and then you just try again with something slightly different until you get your best config.
Ok, I'm off to bed. Peace.
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11. March 2008 @ 01:12 |
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I hate shopping and deciding on hardware. I changed my mind again. I'm now considering this mobo and this memory asus and corsair have both performed very well for me in the past. I will have to wait until the memory is back in stock and I'm gonna hold off on the mobo a while to give the X38 chipset time to mature.
Rig #1 Asus Rampage Formula Mobo, Intel Core2Quad Q9450 CPU @ 3.55ghz, 2gb Corsair DDR2 1066 Dominator Ram @ 5-5-5-15, TR Ultra 120 Extreme w/ Scythe 9 blade 110 cfm 120mm Fan HSF, HIS Radeon 512mb HD3850 IceQ TurboX GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, CM Stacker 830 Evo Case, Rig #2 Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, Intel C2D E6600 CPU @ 3.6ghz, 2gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 Ram @ 4-4-4-12-2t, Zalman CNPS9500LED HSF, Sapphire Radeon X850XT PE GPU, Corsair 620HX P/S, Cooler Master Mystique Case, Viewsonic 20.1" Widescreen Digital LCD Monitor, Klipsch Promedia Ultra 5.1 THX Desktop Speakers, http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=348351 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236435 |
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11. March 2008 @ 01:25 |
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abuzar1,
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Of course you temps are 61C, are you comfortable with that?
That's the core temps, the CPU temp will be lower. Don't panic at 61-62C core temps under extreme load. You will never get close to those temps in the real world! They are well below what the chip can handle!
Mort81,
I would rather have this MB instead!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128089
Best Regards,
Russ
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11. March 2008 @ 07:08 |
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My CPU maxes at 48C in the most demanding of games, and the cores are well up in the sixties, that's normal.
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11. March 2008 @ 08:57 |
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after checking the CPU temp not the cores. it is at 43c under load.
and i'll take the 60-62c underload now.. before i rearranged my fans underload was 64-66c.
after some more tinkering i had to do it. yup 4.0 on 9x multi. programs ran. but a little jittery. wouldnt pass in orthos. so i backed it down to 3.7ghz on 9x multi 412mhz and a 1648 rated FSB. i feel more comfortable at that there. its running stable on orthos right now. and most of all.with all the tinkering, shuting down and restarting not one problem with the double bootups. i think that was my problem this whole time bad power supply cord.
4.0ghz
3.7ghz
and i have mem back on manual running at 2.5 for a close to rated speed of 1030. i can deal with that.
so with all this new info i have. its telling me i should think about the newer PSU before i get my 500gb sata HDD. make sure im power stable before anything else.
i have gotten emails from Crucial,Evga,and Coolermaster. all my rebates have been received and approved so i figure the very end of the month first of next ill get those back $80 total and i'll use that towards a new PSU....so now im on the hunt for a PSU.any tips???
if im looking at the corsair PSU's what the difference in the HX,VX,TX models? and whats the differencein the so called modular PSU's???
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11. March 2008 @ 09:20 |
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rob,
good choice of manufacturer for your new psu. there's not much difference in performance between the HX series and VX series. the HX series is modular though, meaning you get an assortment of lengths of molex cables, sata power cables, and gpu six pin power cables and you only use what you need. they plug into the psu. the only fixed cables are the 20+4 pin mobo cable and 4 pin power cable.
to those that pm'ed me, I'll back with ya a little later. little pressed for time right now.
Mort
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11. March 2008 @ 09:23 |
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Rob - as far as I am aware the main differences are:-
VX - Non-modular - Single Rail
HX - Modular - Multiple Rails
As for modular cables - the corsair ones connect very well and the main difference is you only use the ones you need and they normally look nicer :)
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11. March 2008 @ 09:27 |
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After being poked and prodded by various people here at AD I got the HX520....if my CPU and GPU ever arrive I'll tell you how I like it.
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It would seem from the comparing the product pages for these two lines of power supplies that the VX series is marketed as being Corsair's value line of power supplies while the HX line is going to be placed as their premier product line for the foreseeable future. As such there are only a few differences in each units fit, finish, and functionality
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.ht...W50aHVzaWFzdA==
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11. March 2008 @ 09:30 |
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ok time for some education.. whats the purpose of single rails/multi rails? is this something i shold be looking at when i do decide on a PSU?
yes i can google it but i prefer to actually talking to someone that has delt with stuff first hand and has a opinion instead of reading text that isnt clear at times.. if that makes any sence to anyone..lol
heres a few i picked out
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcom...N82E16817139005
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11. March 2008 @ 09:34 |
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Nice review - shame the colours used buggers up the eyes - mine are now watering after reading that lol
White text on a black background is never a good idea on a PC screen if you ask me.
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11. March 2008 @ 09:39 |
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HX = modular
VX = standard
rob I think with the power consumption of your rig (even with extra SATA drives) you would be ok with something in the 550W range. Of course my opinion here. ;) I didn't need the psu's that I got they were excellent deals at the time so the GM jumped on them. lol.
I'm running the VX-550W in my AMD rig with 4 ODD's (2 SATA), 2 HDD's, average gpu, 3 fans, and 2-4 USB items most of the time. It's plenty of power for that settup. ;)
I think you'll be fine with the one that you have until you buy another and definitely get another power cord!!
btw sent PM...
....gm
edit: cincyrob...
Lp would tell you to jump on that Corsair 650 and sammy would say get the HX-520!! lol. Who's right?? BOTH!! :P Good price on the 650 and I little more future proof if you decide to sometime add SLi/CF with a new mobo of course. lol.... :P
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11. March 2008 @ 09:39 |
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From what Ive read this seems to be the common concensus:-
"Most "multiple rail" PSUs connect to a single rail within the PSU anyway. So you just need to make sure to get your PSU from a quality manufacturer.
But then I found this :- http://www.asktheramguy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52911 which shows which modular socket is which of the 3 rails so its very confusing especially when you take load balancing into account - where if a rail gets over extended it "borrows" amps off another rail - how can it do that if they are seperate?
GA-P35C-DS3R Rev 2.0 F6 - E8200 @ 3.2Ghz - 2x1GB Corsair XMS2 800Mhz@4-4-4-12 - Sapphire 2600XT 512mb GDDR3 - CM690 Dominator - Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro - 250GB Maxtor and 500GB WD internal SATA HDD - 500GB Seagate eSATA and 500GB Maxtor One Touch III USB External HDD - 2 x Pioneer DVR-215DBK - Windows XP SP2 - Logitech X-540 5.1 70W RMS Speakers - Polaroid FLU-2632 Monitor
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11. March 2008 @ 09:45 |
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@LOCO
long time no see.hows it going?
nice link you have there.now thats why i ask people that know what they are talking about can link ya to GOOD stuff not some junk that i might have found taht ment nothing...lmao
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11. March 2008 @ 09:47 |
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where if a rail gets over extended it "borrows" amps off another rail - how can it do that if they are seperate?
Because they're really NOT truly separate rails. From what I've read and if I can find the links it's like the breaker box in your house but with the ability to use "extra" power from the "main" rail. I'll look later today or maybe someone can offer a better explanation. ;)
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11. March 2008 @ 09:50 |
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Another thing to consider when getting a modular PSU is the amount of cables you get as you might find with 8 SATA ports on your motherboard that the HX520 only comes with 4 power connectors for SATA, but 8 for Molex. Ive now used all my SATA ones up and am using one of the Molex ones for a fan, so if I want to put any more SATA drives in Id need convertors :( - but then on the flip side I have more than half a dozen cables Im not using that dont need to clog up the inside of my case.
But then I went onto Asktheramguys forum and they said if I email them with the cables I needed and my address they would send out the extras to me, so if the number of cables is an issue to you you can get around it. I have the link if any one needs more Corsair modular cables.
Edit - the HX520 is SLI certified so can basically also do crossfire if necessary - from what Ive read if a PSU can do one it can do the other.
Edit - Greensman - yep sorry I got that its just the irony didnt come across in my post.
GA-P35C-DS3R Rev 2.0 F6 - E8200 @ 3.2Ghz - 2x1GB Corsair XMS2 800Mhz@4-4-4-12 - Sapphire 2600XT 512mb GDDR3 - CM690 Dominator - Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro - 250GB Maxtor and 500GB WD internal SATA HDD - 500GB Seagate eSATA and 500GB Maxtor One Touch III USB External HDD - 2 x Pioneer DVR-215DBK - Windows XP SP2 - Logitech X-540 5.1 70W RMS Speakers - Polaroid FLU-2632 Monitor
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