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emorgoch
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9. December 2005 @ 20:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ever since I got my new system, Nero has given me trouble burning Data DVDs. The problem that I'm having is that the burn process just hangs during the lead-in. The DVD-drive will repeatedly spin up and down for the next 15 - 25 minutes in a ~4 second cycle, then the burn process will fail. However, no data is written to the disc, and I can immediately turn around and burn onto it again. This is not a consistant problem, hit and miss with about a 60% failure rate. I noticed this with Nero 6.6.0.16, and thought that I'd try 7.0.12 (demo), but that didn't fix the problem either (clean OS install). Anyone got some thoughts? (Burner is an LG GSA-4163)

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 11/02/2004 12:54:32 PM

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 7.0.1.2
Internal Version: 7, 0, 1, 2

Recorder: <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B>Version: A105 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.1.2
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B>Version: A105 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.1.2
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y160P0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y080L0 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: Off
DiskPeripheral : ST3160827AS nvatabus Port 3 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM 2.7a Vax347s Port 4 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM 2.7a Vax347s Port 4 ID 1 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B H: CDRom0
SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM I: CDRom1
SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM J: CDRom2
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1022MB (1046952kB)
Free physical memory: 527MB (539792kB)
Memory in use : 48
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

10.12.2005
ISO compilation
1:28:38 AM #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6411
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

1:28:38 AM #2 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 525
ReadBuffer-Pipe got 262144KB of Memory

1:28:38 AM #3 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
Reader running

1:28:38 AM #4 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113
Writer H: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B running

1:28:38 AM #5 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

1:28:38 AM #6 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3302
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

1:28:38 AM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 279
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 2186143 (485:48.43, 4269MB)

1:28:38 AM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 291
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

1:28:38 AM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2578
Recorder: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: RITEK, Media Type ID: R03, Product revision number: 2
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 3

1:28:38 AM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 458
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

1:28:38 AM #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2186144 (2186144) = #2186144/485:48.44
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2186144 blocks [H: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B]
--------------------------------------------------------------

1:28:38 AM #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059
Prepare recorder [H: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4477222912, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2186144 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

1:28:38 AM #13 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 36
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

1:28:38 AM #14 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
Caching of files started

1:28:39 AM #15 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4132
Cache writing successful.

1:28:39 AM #16 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
Caching of files completed

1:28:39 AM #17 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
Burn process started at 8x (11,080 KB/s)

1:28:39 AM #18 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

1:28:39 AM #19 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8411
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 3 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: RITEK...
Media type ID: R03
Product revision number: 2
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 03 52 49 54 45 4B - 00 00 00 52 30 33 02 38 ...RITEK...R03.8
23 54 37 20 00 5D 6C 00 - B2 67 15 15 0B 0B 08 08 #T7..]l..g......
01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

1:28:39 AM #20 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5400
Drive: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B
Book Type request [LG]: DVD-ROM
Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0

1:28:39 AM #21 CDR -1207 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5330
Book Type automatically set to: DVD-ROM

1:28:39 AM #22 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 666
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

1:38:44 AM #23 SPTI -600 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 323
H: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x00) WinError(121) NeroError(-600)
Sense Key: 0x00 (KEY_NO_SENSE)
Sense Code: 0x00
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0x2A 00 00 00 02 20 00 00 20 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Buffer x03c80000: Len x10000
0x06 A0 1A 03 0F E1 B0 7C 0F F9 C1 F0 3F DB 08 67
0x95 1F 0A 60 55 03 78 30 96 E0 60 86 7C 1F 03 FD
0xD0 61 FC 1A 83 E0 7F DA 0C 01 41 4C 07 B0 6F 07

1:38:44 AM #24 CDR -600 File Writer.cpp, Line 302
Device not available
H: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B

1:38:44 AM #25 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

1:38:44 AM #26 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
conversion idle, stopping reader

1:38:44 AM #27 SPTI -1114 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 323
H: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1114)
Sense Key: 0x06 (KEY_UNIT_ATTENTION)
Sense Code: 0x29
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0x35 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 06 00 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 0E 29

1:38:44 AM #28 Phase 127 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
Generating DVD high compatibility borders

1:38:50 AM #29 Phase 129 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
Generating DVD borders completed successfully

1:38:50 AM #30 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
Burn process failed at 8x (11,080 KB/s)


Existing drivers:

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

====== *** Nero Burning ROM, History File *** ======
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9. December 2005 @ 21:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The only thing I can see is dma is off for the burner and should be on.

You might want to try burning at 4x instead of 8x

You also might want to check for conflicts with existing drivers that you removed from the log before posting it.

emorgoch
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9. December 2005 @ 22:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I didn't remove the drivers, none are there when an error occurs. As for DMA Mode, I tried turning it on (setting the secondary IDE controller to "DMA if possible", but it's still use PIO).

Here's a cut from a successful burn. Even those aren't showing the drivers:

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 11/02/2004 12:54:32 PM

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 7.0.1.2
Internal Version: 7, 0, 1, 2
(Nero Express)
Recorder: <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B>Version: A105 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.1.2
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B>Version: A105 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.1.2
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y160P0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y080L0 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: Off
DiskPeripheral : ST3160827AS nvatabus Port 3 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM 2.7a Vax347s Port 4 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM 2.7a Vax347s Port 4 ID 1 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B H: CDRom0
SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM I: CDRom1
SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM J: CDRom2
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1022MB (1046952kB)
Free physical memory: 361MB (370512kB)
Memory in use : 64
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

9.12.2005
ISO compilation
7:59:53 PM #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6411
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

7:59:53 PM #2 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 525
ReadBuffer-Pipe got 262144KB of Memory

7:59:53 PM #3 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
Reader running

7:59:53 PM #4 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113
Writer H: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B running

7:59:53 PM #5 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

7:59:53 PM #6 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3302
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

7:59:53 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 279
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 1167919 (259:32.19, 2281MB)

7:59:53 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 291
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

7:59:53 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2578
Recorder: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: RITEK, Media Type ID: R03, Product revision number: 2
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 3

7:59:53 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 458
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

7:59:53 PM #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 1167920 (1167920) = #1167920/259:32.20
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1167920 blocks [H: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B]
--------------------------------------------------------------

7:59:53 PM #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059
Prepare recorder [H: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 2391900160, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
1167920 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

7:59:53 PM #13 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 36
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

7:59:53 PM #14 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
Caching of files started

7:59:53 PM #15 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4132
Cache writing successful.

7:59:53 PM #16 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
Caching of files completed

7:59:53 PM #17 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
Burn process started at 8x (11,080 KB/s)

7:59:54 PM #18 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

7:59:54 PM #19 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8411
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 3 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: RITEK...
Media type ID: R03
Product revision number: 2
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 03 52 49 54 45 4B - 00 00 00 52 30 33 02 38 ...RITEK...R03.8
23 54 37 20 00 5D 6C 00 - B2 67 15 15 0B 0B 08 08 #T7..]l..g......
01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

7:59:54 PM #20 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5400
Drive: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B
Book Type request [LG]: DVD-ROM
Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0

7:59:54 PM #21 CDR -1207 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5330
Book Type automatically set to: DVD-ROM

7:59:54 PM #22 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 666
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

8:14:48 PM #23 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
<H: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 1167920 (11D230h), length 0 blocks

8:14:48 PM #24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

8:15:11 PM #25 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
Burn process completed successfully at 8x (11,080 KB/s)


Existing drivers:

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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9. December 2005 @ 23:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That is odd. I can not see deferance in the one that failed and the one that didnt.

Can you tell me what this device is from the log?
DiskPeripheral : ST3160827AS nvatabus Port 3 ID 0 DMA: Off

emorgoch
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9. December 2005 @ 23:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
See Time index 01:38:44 in the first log. That's where the difference is.

As for the "ST3160827AS nvatabus Port 3 ID 0 DMA: Off"; Seagate Barracudda 7200.8 SATA 160GB HDD. Stored on this disk are OS files (triple boot). The data being burned is on the Maxtor 160GB drive (for this particular instance). This error has occured burning from each of the three disk drives though.
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10. December 2005 @ 06:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I thought it was a sata hdd but wanted to be sure. Have you checked to see if there is controler update for it?

About the difference that is what I meant. I see no difference in settings from one to the other Same media and all. So one error out and other not is odd. I have heard of problems with nvida drivers and Nero. Is that what the controler runs drivers from nvida?

emorgoch
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10. December 2005 @ 06:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes, controller is nVidia. Motherboard is DFI LanParty UT SLI-D, running off the nForce 4 SLI Chipset. Originally I did install the IDE SW drivers, but changed the IDE controller back to the Microsoft ones. Left the SATA controller on the nVidia drivers though.

I'm trying a new install on a second partition today. I didn't install the nVidia SW drivers on that one at all (nor have I installed any other software besides basic windows & motherboard drivers). Once graphics drivers are installed, I'll try putting Nero on next, and see if I have the same error or not.
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10. December 2005 @ 06:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That will be a good test. Should point to if is something from the nvida drivers or not. Keep us posted on the outcome.

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10. December 2005 @ 09:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Those nvatabus drivers are a pain for getting DMA sorted. there's a few threads with ths solution, will have to dig around, but i think the girst is to remove the Nvidia drivers and use standard Microsoft ones.



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13. December 2005 @ 17:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Did an install on a new partition, skipping the IDE SW drivers, and it seems to be working for now. Need to burn a lot of stuff off my system to clear some room, so I'll see how that goes, but it looks probmising so far.

However, I do have one problem with not putting on those drivers as Microsoft is only listing IDE controllers in my deveice manager, rather than SATA controllers on which my OS driver is attached. AS well, I am planning on eventually getting a RAID setup going (once I have money for new HDDs), and I'll need to use the NV drivers then. Is this a known problem with Nero, and are Ahead/Nero aware and working on a solution for it?
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