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yankeeDDL
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21. December 2005 @ 10:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello folks,

I think I already know the answer, but would you mind taking a look at this logfile and let me know what you think?
I have a Memorex DVD burner (internal burner, in a Bytecc enclosure, connected to an USB port).
Burned succesfully Fujifilm and Sony DVDs (Sony's play much better on my old DVD player) but I'm now stuck with a bunch of Memorex DVD-R. My bad: I thought I would have had less problems with media of the same brand as the burner: did not think of checking the quality first ...

'nough talking: here's the logfile. Thanks in advance.

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Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 6:35:34 PM
Nero Version: 6.6.0.18
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 18e
(Nero Express)
Recorder: <Memorex DVD+/-DLRWL1 F16>Version: BWSE - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.18
Adapter driver: <> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <SONY CD-RW CRX700E >Version: 1.4j - HA 0 TA 1 - 6.6.0.18
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : HTS541060G9AT00 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SONY CD-RW CRX700E atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
SONY CD-RW CRX700E D: CDRom0
Memorex DVD+/-DLRWL1 F16 E: CDRom2
=======================

AutoRun : 0
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 511MB (523736kB)
Free physical memory: 225MB (231276kB)
Memory in use : 55 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

21.12.2005
UDF/ISO compilation
11:21:59 AM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation started

11:21:59 AM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

11:22:00 AM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6359
UDF document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : TRUE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
UDF Mode : UDF/ISO bridge
UDF Revision : 1.02
UDF Partition Type : physical
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet :FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

11:22:00 AM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files sorted

11:22:00 AM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running

11:22:00 AM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer Memorex DVD+/-DLRWL1 F16 running

11:22:00 AM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

11:22:00 AM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

11:22:00 AM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

11:22:00 AM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2286127 (508:01.52, 4465MB)

11:22:00 AM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

11:22:01 AM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
Recorder: Memorex DVD+/-DLRWL1 F16, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: CMC MA - G. AM3
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

11:22:01 AM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

11:22:01 AM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2286128 (2286128) = #2286128/508:1.53
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286128 blocks [Memorex DVD+/-DLRWL1 F16]
--------------------------------------------------------------

11:22:01 AM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
Prepare recorder [Memorex DVD+/-DLRWL1 F16] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4681990144, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2286128 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

11:22:01 AM #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files started

11:22:01 AM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4122
Cache writing successful.

11:22:01 AM #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files completed

11:22:01 AM #19 Phase 28 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Speed measurement started

11:22:01 AM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2661
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

11:25:11 AM #21 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
<Memorex DVD+/-DLRWL1 F16> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2286128 (22E230h), lenght 0 blocks

11:25:11 AM #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

11:25:11 AM #23 Phase 29 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1781
Speed measurement completed: 17.7x (24,436 KB/s)

11:25:11 AM #24 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process started at 1x (1,385 KB/s)

11:25:11 AM #25 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2661
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

11:25:11 AM #26 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2571
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

11:25:11 AM #27 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21774
Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON , Adapt writespeed to disc : ON

11:25:11 AM #28 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2726
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

11:25:11 AM #29 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8892
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 2.1 (33)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 60 00 10 20 30 40 50 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 .`...0@P...!....
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

11:25:14 AM #30 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1436
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x0AF10000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
Sense Code: 0x30
Sense Qual: 0x05
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x05

11:25:14 AM #31 CDR -1046 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
Illegal disc

11:25:14 AM #32 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

11:25:15 AM #33 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
conversion idle, stopping reader

11:25:15 AM #34 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2969
EndDAO: Last written address was -1

11:25:15 AM #35 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process failed at 1x (1,385 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/3/2004 9:59:42 PM (Adapter driver for src)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

YankeeDoodle
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21. December 2005 @ 18:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@yankeeDDL
Well I won't disappoint you - you answer was right!
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Disc Manufacturer: CMC MA - G
Eck! The Pits! Reason you have an illegal disc error.
Throw those things out and stick with the Fuji or Sony (made in Japan only)
Nothing else amiss though you may want to cut down the target size to 4360 from 4465.




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yankeeDDL
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21. December 2005 @ 19:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I tried with 3800MB and then I returned the DVDs to the store.
I found online at the same price the Taiyo Yuden that are so hyped in this forum:
http://www.meritline.com/taiyo-yuden-8x-dvd-r-silver-thermal.html

I think I'll give them a try.

Hey, thanks for your help ;-)
FYI: I had downloaded also the latest verison of DVDfab Platinum: I thought I'd try a different burning engine: I got some error even in that case. How can they keep selling this crap?




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It's all in the name! That's how they get you! People buy it.
I also tried Memorex for that reason than I became wiser:)
Maybe that's why the error is named 'illegal disc' :)



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21. December 2005 @ 20:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Last address to be written: 2286127 (508:01.52, 4465MB)
you are burning too close to the edge of the disc. Set your target to 4300 in Nero or DVD Shrink, whichever you use. This target size will keep you from burning too close to the edge, where the dye coverage is spotty on crap media like CMC mags. It wouldn't even burn those at 1x.. Try better media, and you will probably have better luck. Your firmware is up to date.



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CMC Mag media, ugh!, in addition to the other replies, see this from my sig - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/232406 and also see my sig for decent media recommendations



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22. December 2005 @ 12:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks Creaky: great post.
MaxBurn, a question for you: I understand your recommendation of burning no more than 4300MB and I agree: that's a good idea, but I'm not clear how this would help in this case: the burning does not even start.
Just curious.
Thanks.

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22. December 2005 @ 19:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have had a simliar problem (another post) and I was also told (after a couple of nice suggestions from members) that it was the media but because I just Bought a 75 disc spool of MEMOREX DVD+R's and 5 or 6 out of every 7 were giving me problems (Not Finilizing) I had to keep searching for another solution so, not, to waist my discs.

I tried, (Even Thou I have already used DVD Shrink to burn them to my comp.) DVD Shrink again to burn them to dvd (Instead of going straight to nero) and it works perfect.
I have no problem what so ever with MEMOREX DVD+R's

Anyway to those that want to try it, just use dvdshrink (even if you already used it to put the movie to your hard drive)
Open dvdshrink and open the files (from your hard drive) and let it burn.
Don't Go straight to Nero Use the bypass DVDSHRINK and sit back for 15
minutes.
Nothing wrong with MEMOREX DVD's (My Opinion Anyway)
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22. December 2005 @ 19:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@yankeeDDL
You are right, changing the target wouldn't help in this case. I just saw the target set to 4465, and thought i would tell you about that. Crappy media can cause skipping/freezing at the end of the movie (in your case you didn't get that far) particullary if you are burning to the edge of the disc.
It was just another thing in the posted log that should be changed in the future.
@nonotme
In your case the problem seemed to be discs not finalizing. Memorex DVDs have many more problems, some of which you may not be aware of. The CMC made memorex have crappy dye. This can cause a number of problems, and one of the worst ones is best described as dye rot. The disc may get finished with the burn process with no errors. Playback fine once or twice. Later (anywhere from a day to a year later) that very same movie burnt on a CMC will not play, or exibit playback problems, tiling, skipping, freezing. The dye rotted away and destroyed the data in the process. I have seen this happen with my own eyes, so i know it isn't just a rumor. Check the manufacturer of those memorex discs, and if they come up as CMC mag, i would suggest you not put anything important on those discs. I went thru and backed up as many of my CMC memorex discs to good Taiyo Yuden discs. I didn't want to take a chance. Some of the CMCs were impossible to back up as they were getting too many CRC read errors, and the movie had played fine before. The dye used in media is like a foundation to your house(movie). CMC uses quicksand for their foundation.
Also DVD Shrink uses Nero for the burn, unless you specify DVD Decrypter as the burner. Just an FYI. Shrink has no burn engine in it.



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nonotme
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22. December 2005 @ 19:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You Could be write, (I don't Know)
MY OPINION = (From The Opinions On this Forum) There is no way that I can burn dirty dancing today BUT tomorrow I have to upgrade my firmware to burn it again.
OH YEY, I left the midea out in the snow.
Microwaving it.
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22. December 2005 @ 19:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
nonotme
That's a funny one.
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OH YEY, I left the midea out in the snow.
Microwaving it.
In an old thread this guy claimed he got a movie to burn by placing the disc in the freezer before burning, and called it the cold burn method. Had me rolling on the floor with laughter.
As far as using Memorex media, if you like it, and it doesn't give you any problems, go for it. Just be aware it is considered crap media by many ppl, not just me, and it could give you problems. I don't get any reward for suggesting good media, just trying to save you some headaches later. If ya got plenty of asprin, enjoy those memorex :).



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22. December 2005 @ 19:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I should have mention that am trying to look for a post (On here, linking to another forum) that has a very good suggestion/point/advice etc.) about labels, and why you should never put them on your movie dvd's.

Which maybe can explain alot of playback problems
nonotme
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As far as using Memorex media, if you like it, and it doesn't give you any problems go for it. Just be aware it is considered crap media by many ppl
Sure it is, (Because they are being told so) Untill people start having problems with sony, maxell, and no more drivers to update, they are going to keep following others, instead of tryng to figure out a sullution for them selfs.

Anyway, My point is, Don't blame it on the DVD.(media)
I Have bought no name dvd's from my dollar store her in toronto (for $.20 and had no problems with them after I figured out the dvdshrink thing,
But like always said each to thier own,
You will always have pigeons following you when they think the'rs somthing to follow.

I meant that in a good way (theres no smilies here)
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nonotme
As far as Memorex media, you can ask creaky, kivory666, alkohol, GlueEater, and many others, if it is a problem. They have seen hundreds, if not thousands of logs where it came down to Memorex media being the main problem. Once the media was changed, burning took place once again. Many other regular members here have found cheap media to be a problem for them, and others, so it is not just a fad, or someone following advice just to be popular. Too many ppl have had problems with Memorex media for it to be just a rumor. It is a fact, and can be proven just by looking at Nero burn logs that failed due to crappy media. I am glad you found a way to use those discs, just keep in mind you are not going to get very many bad media followers here. Very good media can be had for the same price as "cheap" media with just a little research. Crappy media does cause problems for many many ppl. Its not an urban legend, its a fact. We give this advice to help ppl burn, not to gain a following, or cult status. We get no kick back for advizing ppl to use good media. Again, whatever makes you happy. Doesn't bother me that you use Memorex, and love it. If you start helping ppl with their Nero burn logs, you will see what kind of head aches memorex media causes. Try telling someone who is making lots of coasters out of those memorex discs that it isn't the media, but something wrong with their process.
Here are some links creaky has in his sig line that relates to bad media:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/193298
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/232406
and a media search site:
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php
To each his own. Happy burning :)



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indeed.

plus here in UK there's no cost difference between landfill media and proven decent/even top notch media



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