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pc is soo slow even after full virus and adware scan !
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spursmad
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29. December 2005 @ 00:37 |
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Hi Guys,
superb site,
I'm having trouble with the speed, or lack of it, of my pc.
I've recentely doubled my ram from 512 to 1024,
installed all new microsoft updates,
upgraded to norton 2006 and done a full system scan
and updated lavasoft adaware
but still my pc is a lot slower than normal.
Even when i turn on the windows music crackles like it's too much strain to even boot up.
If i'm playing a music file and open up another programme it also crackles for about 30 seconds !
ANy ideas / suggestions would be very much welcomed, i really don't know what else to do ?
Thank you all
Dan
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29. December 2005 @ 00:54 |
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try downloading a program called FreeRAM XP Pro (freeware) it will monitor you RAM in your system tray and free as necessary, if this helps then the ram was your problem, try opening up task manager and ordering the processes by memory usage and find out which ones are causing the most memory loss (if that is the problem)
hope this helps...
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29. December 2005 @ 07:09 |
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First off, I totally disagree with Phantom. Memory "clearing" programs such as that, take up memory to run...and "defragging" RAM gives you about a .01% increase in performance, if any at all...
What kind of new memory did you add to your system?
It is also unfortunate for me to add, that Norton is notorious for causing all kinds of different system problems. From slow boots, to lockups....you name it, it's done it. It is possible though, that Norton is now set to scan the system during startup...might want to check into that if you plan on keeping the program. (uninstall it completely to find out if there's a difference)
Clear up all your startup programs you don't need running. Start, Run, msconfig and uncheck all unnecessary programs like update managers (qttask, office update etc), Adobe or Office startup files, system tray icons from programs ya don't need quick access too...all ya really need running is your firewall, video graphix, sound, AV (if you're using one) theme software. Note: apps like Yahoo/MSN/Windows Messenger's startup options must be unchecked inside their perspective programs. Unchecking them in msconfig may not always work.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 29. December 2005 @ 07:25
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29. December 2005 @ 07:36 |
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You may still have spyware that norton and adware are not detecting. I had the same problem before and ended having to get spy sweeper. It found stuff that the others didn't. Have you tried ctrl+alt+delete and click on processes to see what running. Norton is also known to be a resource hog.
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29. December 2005 @ 22:11 |
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Morph416 i do believe that what i said was in some ways correct because it works for me...
but like i say in all conflicts of interests, to each is own...
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spursmad
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30. December 2005 @ 00:40 |
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Thanks for all your thoughts.
to Phantom, i have hd my win task manager open since all started slowing down, there is a load of processes i know nothing about, but i'm no genius here you understand, it's just things like explorer using 46,092
k svchost.exe using 28,308
ccApp.exe (which is down to norton) using 22,800 k
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iexplore.exe using 32,036 k
all seem higher than before.
With this in mind shall i still get FreeRam XP pro ?
To Morph 416,
Yes i've definately noticed my whole pc being a lot slower since installing norton, not great news really is it ! but no it doesn't carry out full scan on start up.
Done msconfig and got rid of a whole heap of crap i know i don't need and even some stuff i thought i'd unistalled !
But again there is tons of stuff in there i know nothing about so i left it, but i probably unchecked a good third of the start up's.
To AE27,
I'm currently finding spt sweeper and will let you know the outcome.
So thanks again guys,
I really appreciate it.
Dan
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30. December 2005 @ 00:55 |
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enedwaith
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30. December 2005 @ 01:58 |
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I am new to afterdawn, and don't know nearly half of what most of the members know. I have battled with system slowness for months also. I have tried all the Ram cleaners and such but with no luck. I am totally against norton because it is the only program that i know of that makes your system run even worse after installing! I would reccomend Panda Platinum Internet Security 2006 I have been running for 7 months or so, and it runs just as fast as it did when i reformatted. Like i said I am new to this, but it has worked wonders for me
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30. December 2005 @ 02:03 |
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thank you for that suggestion.. (not sarcastic)
i personally use norton internet security 2005 and it only takes my computer about 40 seconds to start and i still have plenty of ram...
however i would still like to switch...
but when we post responses we try to save the monetary alternatives for last so taht if we find a simple FREE fix everybody is happy...
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spursmad
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30. December 2005 @ 05:18 |
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ok here's the latest
downloaded spy sweeper and done a full scan, 48 infections, all of them cookies, which have now been deleted, but no change to pc performance
downloaded bysoft FreeRam, not quite sure what i'm doing with it just yet, but the results are
free ram 50% (521mb)
memory load index 49%
and cpu, which is going up and down as it pleases, from 5% up to 90% or 100%
Whilst running these checks i have norton, spy sweeper and by soft running.
any views?
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spursmad
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30. December 2005 @ 05:29 |
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Just tried playing a single music track on windows media player
Ram steady at 52%
Memory Load index steady at 42%
CPU up to 100% jumping from 90% back to 100% with the records distorting when it hits 100%
?????
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30. December 2005 @ 11:09 |
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spursmad
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31. December 2005 @ 10:14 |
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Hi ddp,
spent the afternoon carrying out your suggestions,
ccclean wiped almost 2 gig of crap !
the others all found something also,
one virus from the last scan,
but things still ain't right i'm afraid.
free ram is up to 64%
memory load index is down to 35%
but cpu usage is still jumping about,
when i start up the windows music distorts still,
as if it's too much effort,
during the spy bot scan, there's 26 problems it can't fix, all called smitfraud, i've gone to location and tried to manually delete but it won't let me
do you need to see the scan results from spy bot to help any further?
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31. December 2005 @ 10:47 |
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1. January 2006 @ 06:35 |
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Hi,i got an idea. I think u should try NOD32 antivirus system. Sometimes Norton make me in trouble......
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1. January 2006 @ 07:06 |
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@Spurs,
Could you post your system specs for us please? :)
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spursmad
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4. January 2006 @ 12:16 |
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Yes Morph 416 sorry i should have given this at the start shouldn't i
Windows XP Home Edition
Version 2002 SP2
Hewlett-Packard Pavilion
Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.80GHz
2.80GHz, 1.00 GB of RAM
I have an exact same pc at my office except this one is used to download loads of crap from the internet and convert my movies etc and the office one is just for work,
The office one still has the regular RAM of 512, but i was using it today and it's so quicker than this one, i had the windows task manager up today and the cpu usage is half of what itis on this system for basic tasks such as ripping cd's or playing music.
I'm beginning to think i have to format and start from scratch ?
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spursmad
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4. January 2006 @ 12:19 |
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DDP
used your instructions and got rid of smit fraud thanks for that, and all the other rubbish i was able to lose whilst following your instructions,
it hasn't made much of a change to my cpu usage and so the speed of my pc, but there was certainly a lot of luggage i was hanging onto which needed to go so thanks
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4. January 2006 @ 12:29 |
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check to see what is in msconfig/startup
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spursmad
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4. January 2006 @ 13:27 |
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i've already unchecked a lot of files but here's the rest which i wasn't sure about and so left as they were
hpsysdrv
hkcmd
KBD
RECGUARD
Ati2mdxx
rundll32
atiptaxx
Dragdiag (this one is for my isp)
WkUFind
DVD Tray
ccApp (this one i know is down to Norton)
ALCXMNTR
Microsoft office
PowerReg Scheduler V3
Thats all that are still checked.
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4. January 2006 @ 13:53 |
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Kick Norton to the curve and use Avast 4 Pro Edition for starters, hell the free version is an excellent program also. Glad the guys were able to help you out but you need to find some other virus protection program. Norton is a big time resource hog in my opinion..then again what virus protection program isn't. What I dislike about Mcafee and Norton is that every year you have to pay whatever it is $20 to update the damn virus definitions(not with Avast), the free version of Avast was able to detect virus's that Norton Couldn't. These are my experiences with Norton and Mcafee so hopefully I haven't pissed anyone off who use Norton in here.
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Norton, in all, blows! I recommend PC-cillin. It takes no time in your system start-up and has awsome attributes already in the package. If you decide to switch over to PC-cillin get the 05-06 package.
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4. January 2006 @ 13:55 |
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That's also a good one Pokey, I forgot to mention PC-cillin.
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4. January 2006 @ 23:01 |
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i have to use norton cause i have internet security 05 which has all of my security, if it were up to me i would get zonealarm, but it isn't so im stuck...
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5. January 2006 @ 09:10 |
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ive used zone alarm internet secuirty, its great but it is also a bit of a resourse hog for some people, it was great for me while i used it.
i use AVG pro,but i recommend AVG free its worth a try and it wont slow you down no were near as much as norton does if anyone is thinking of a switch,itll find much more than norton, did for me anyway.
As for this slow down your getting try disabling everything from start up(start>run>msconfig) and search in google for every one of you processes, youve probaly got something in there.
after youve done a bit of research post back.
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