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31. December 2005 @ 00:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
First games released for XBOX360 either support both HDTV formats 720p and 1080i, this is the case for King Kong, Need for Speed and Call of Duty, or at least one of them, like Perfect Dark Zero supporting 720p only.

Which is supported does not really matter since both formats are equivalent:
http://www.cnet.com/4520-7874_1-5107912-1.html
I understand that 1080i is said to be superior because the LCD screens has more pixels, but this does not matter is all pixels are not used simultaneously for each image formed on the screen.

This is however the case for the ulitmate 1080p format, with its progressive scan vs. the interlaced 1080i :

- 720p : 1280x720 pixels progressive
- 1080i : 1920x1080 pixels interlaced
- 1080p: 1920x1080 pixels progressive

1080p HDTV sets start to be released but still are approximately 2 times as expansive at same size than an equivalent 720p/1080i device, like the Phillips 42PF9830/10, or the gigantic brand new Sharp AQUOS 65, which both are beyond my financial reach.

The following thread explain how to connect to a PC screen:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/268748
According to the informations in the page linked therein, XBOX360 does not support any HDTV resolution else than 720p, since 1080i is supported by upconverting 580p resolution and 1080p is not supported.

The real confirmations I would like to get regarding the XBOX360 are:

1) Does it definitively support 1080p or not, and if yes is it with full picture details (no extrapolation of lower video resolution)

2) Will games supporting 1080p be released.

3) Regarding existing games supporting 720p/1080i, will they be upward compatible, meaning playable on 1080p HDTV or at 1080p resolution on PC screens ?

Nicolas

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 31. December 2005 @ 00:48

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31. December 2005 @ 03:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
no only 1080i never 1080p,to be quite hnest at the moment i am playing one the crapest tv knon to man kind right now with my xbox 360 and it still looks great (pgr 3)so when i get a HDTV i do ot mind what thing its in as long as it is HD.

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31. December 2005 @ 07:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Currently the majority of 1080p HDTVs will NOT except a 1080p signal from EXTERNAL sources, i.e. game systems like the future PS3, dvd players (Oppo) or maybe Blu-Ray/HD-DVD (I don't have a 1080p display or Blu-Ray/HD-DVD player to know for sure). That's because external 1080p input support isn't coming until HDMI version 1.3 (1.3 will also include true audio support for Blu-Ray/HD-DVD as well on the audio side of things: Receivers, Video Players, etc.). Hopefully the PS3 will cause HDMI 1.3 to come to market sooner than later. Unfortunatly, HDMI is only backward compatible and not 'upward' compatible: a current 1080p HDTV with HDMI 1.1 or 1.2 set will never except an external 1080p signal from any HDMI 1.3 device. Now I believe current 1080p displays are able to display signals from INTERNAL tuners, CableCARDs, etc. but that's only because they are internal and not connected by HDMI/DVI cables. For PC displays, look for HDMI/DVI connections in the future to require HDCP. Current displays without HDCP will very limited with HD content.

To answer your questions:

1. Xbox 360 will not support 1080p, according to news releases the PS3 will via HDMI. Of course if you hooked up a Xbox 360 to a current 1080p display that only displays 1080p native, then the signal (480p/720p/1080i) would be 'converted' to the display's 1080p as long as it accepts them.

2. Games supporting 1080p will not be released for the Xbox 360 - THAT I KNOW OF. There have been 480p and 1080i games released for the PS2 that were done in software. Only the PS3 (again, according to news releases) will have true 1080p games.

3. Existing 720p/1080i games will be upward compatible, meaning playable on 1080p HDTV that accept 720p/1080i signals (I'm sure they all do) and displayed at 1080p (especially if that is the sets only native output). As for PC displays, I believe 720p/1080i would be displayed at their perspective PC resolutions normally and no conversion would happen. Maybe others can chime in on the PC side of things.



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3. January 2006 @ 13:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
edited by ddp.

720p is 1280x720 pixels
and 1080i and 1080p are 1920x1080...but...edited by ddp>..

if your tv is a lower model projection...or lcd or plasma

their pixel rates vary from 1280x720 to 1366x768 pixels..

so your "1080p" is acually just 720i because the tv cant display more pixels than it has...duhrrr...edited by ddp..
so unless you have a $10000 1080p capable tv with at least 1920x1080 pixels....720p is the best you are going to get....

edited by ddp

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and you're banned.





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atactic
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3. January 2006 @ 17:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Who is banned ?

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the jerk above my last post, the content for which he was banned has been edited.





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