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WWE SMACKDOWN Vs RAW BACKUP PROBLEM +dnas solution!
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sleekmeek
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15. January 2006 @ 02:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hello,
i have backed up numerous dvd games that have worked fine on my ps2. i am using swap magic 3.6, and bulqpak 8x dvd-r media, which has worked for over 15 games. using dvd decrypter, isobuster, cdvdgen and an idpatcher. but smackdown vs raw 2006 is not backing up corrrectly!

hertes what i did:

i wrote the iso file to my hdd and extracted the files using isobuster, changed the 600mb dummy file to a text file, and then used cdvdgen to make 3 files which i made into one iso file using DOS, i then patched this iso file for online play* and then burnt it using dvd decrypter.

* iv found that when patching DNAS you can use the smae dnas id for every game you backup and its worked for... wrc evolved, pes5, burnout revenge, smackdown 2006, battlefiled 2, starwars battlefront 2 and f1 2005, the DNAS i use is: 5E 08 00 40 B4

Smackdown is not a complete failure, exhibition mathces work fine, online play works fine, but when i do a championship i get about 6 fights in in both smackdown and raw modes and when the fight starts to load i just get a blank screen. is there anyone out there that can help me??!

thanks
mike
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15. January 2006 @ 06:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Bulqpaq is terrible. Get some Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim's. Before you counter with "well all my other games work...", That's how crap media works. It'll fail with some games, degrade over time, and wear down your PS2 laser with it's terrible dyes. Get some better media and that should solve the problem. You can a 50 pack of Verb's at Sam's club for $15. Or you can get Maxell's at CompUSA that are high quality, as long as they have "Made in Japan" on the label. The Sony DVD+R's made in Japan are also Taiyo Yuden's. The key for either brand is "Made in Japan" on the label.

sleekmeek
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15. January 2006 @ 07:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
il have a go, but can u tell me why it works for the majority of the game?
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15. January 2006 @ 19:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well if burned correctly you can get by with cheap media for awhile. In time it'll skip, fail to load, and degrade. Even if none of that ever happens, the cheap dyes on the bottom of the DVD's cause the PS2 laser to strain unecessarily. Taiyo Yuden and Verbatim use high quality dyes that put as little strain on your PS2 laser as possible. More strain on the laser=the sooner you have to shell out $50 for a new one.

sleekmeek
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15. January 2006 @ 22:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
cheers,
il try some new discs
sleekmeek
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20. January 2006 @ 03:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hello,
iv ordered some verbatim discs but from looking through these forums i decided to have a go at checking the disc quality of the bulkpaq smackdown dvd, but im not really to sure what the results are showing me! some help would be appreciated!
here they are:





thanks
mike

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 20. January 2006 @ 03:17

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20. January 2006 @ 03:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's a good quality score. Your discs are in the top tier range according to this link. http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
That or they're fakes. Though I doubt fakes would have that high a quality score. The true test of questionable media is whether they will have a good quality score six months-year from now. Even if they do, the Verb's have much better quality dye which won't wear down your PS2 laser.

sleekmeek
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20. January 2006 @ 04:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thats good news!
does that probably mean that its the way iv backed up the game that has made it cut out part of the way through? or could it still be due tp the bulkpaq media?
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mike
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20. January 2006 @ 04:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well my guess would still be the media. Obviously if you burn it to Verb's and it does the same thing, then it's not the media. When I first started backing up PS2 games, I used Ritek media. It's good, but not great. I had to rebuild a couple games to get them to work. I have a modchip, so theoretically I shouldn't have to rebuild games. Since I swithced to Taiyo Yuden's, I haven't rebuilt a single game. The difference between BulqPaq and Verb's could easily provide the same results.

sleekmeek
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20. January 2006 @ 05:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks dude, well i shall have to wait and see by the looks of things!! until i get my new verb babies! would you recommend backing up the smackdown game using the bulkpaq copy or should i start a fresh? i was also wondering what the dummy files have in them!? and how it doesnt affect the game when you convert them to a text file to minimise their size?
mike
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20. January 2006 @ 05:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You don't need to rebuild the game again. You can create an iso from your backup and the dummy file will remain as it was after you overwrote it. Now you may want to rebuild the game again if you think the original iso file you downloaded/backed up is the problem. That's your call. Definitely burn it to the Verb's first. There's no garuntee it'll work. At least it'll let you know if the media is the problem.

sleekmeek
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20. January 2006 @ 05:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks i will let you know what happens when i get the new discs
sleekmeek
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26. January 2006 @ 05:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey iv got new the verbatims and the same thing happens. im thinking that the dummy file that i remake is a video file, iv also noticed someone else is has noticed the same in another thread. any ideas?
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mike
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26. January 2006 @ 08:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nah the dummy file is just empty space. It's just there to beef up the size of the game and to help your PS2 load the disc better. I double checked my copy to be sure. I tried playing the dummy.dat file with Classic Media Player. I have every codec under the sun and it wouldn't play. It could be a faulty iso. Did you backup an original or download it? Also is your firmware up to date?

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26. January 2006 @ 09:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
it is a download, so il try getting a new iso before i try frying my burner!
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26. January 2006 @ 09:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There's not much risk of that as long as you're careful. Make sure you have the correct firmware, all other programs are closed, and the DVD-ROM drive is empty when upgrading. Paddymails checklist contains some additional protective measures you can take when upgrading. If you follow his suggestions you should be fine. Keeping your firmware up to date is very important.

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/288475

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27. January 2006 @ 00:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
iv just tried rebuilding the new iso file and its not working due to the dummy.dat file. IML2DVD checkedd the file for errors and found one...:

Error(s) Found!
The following files are not correctly aligned to their LBA.

00055231 , D:\wwe\PAC\DUMMY.DAT

the way i remade the dummy file is as follows, (is it correct):
opened notepad, pressed space, saved the file as DUMMY.dat and over wrote the orriginal dummy file. any ideas how to rectify the problem??
cheers mike
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27. January 2006 @ 01:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If it's a d/l wouldn't it more than likely had already been patched/rebuilt? just burn the orginal Iso you d/l'd and seee how that works. Maybe you're rebuilding for nothing
sleekmeek
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27. January 2006 @ 05:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i have tried to just burn it and that didnt work either, that one started up really slowly and got slower and slower and now wont even load up. also the dwnload had the dummy file in it that was 600mb?
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27. January 2006 @ 09:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Okay well make sure you save it exactly as it is in the PAC folder. When you go to "save as" in Windows, simply browse to the PAC folder and double click the DUMMYDATA file that's already there. Windows will ask you to overwrite the exisiting file, click yes. That will overwrite it exactly. When doing this it's important the file is overwritten exactly as it is. Even if a letter is off, that could keep it from booting.

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sleekmeek
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29. January 2006 @ 01:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
same thing still happens!? It must be something to do with the size not matching??? any ideas now?
cheers
tuckerboy
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29. January 2006 @ 04:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi
well i am new to this to but i have backed up this game from a disk two times and both work fine
i used DVD Decrypter and maxell disk from walmart ... just thought this might help
sleekmeek
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29. January 2006 @ 09:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
iv finally got it sorted!!! it wass all down to the software i was using... the iml2dvd that i used was version 1.5 and i tried it with version 4 and it worked! thanks everyone for all your help.
mike
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29. January 2006 @ 12:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Good. Glad it worked for you.

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