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24. January 2006 @ 04:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Check this out:

http://www.gamesfirst.com/index.php?id=1132

Good graphics don't always mean bigger filesize. Check this game out:




Not the best looking game out there, right? But it's only 96kb "big". You don't believe me? Then download it and try yourself:

http://kk.kema.at/files/kkrieger-beta.zip
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25. January 2006 @ 11:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
there's an article on another site i goto about DVD9 being too small for the 360, and so far nothings really come close to running out of space on the Xbox360 DVD9's.


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25. January 2006 @ 14:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thats amazing, 96kb!!! How the hell did they make it so small but arcanix ur right J. Allard made a statement while back saying that developers werent using the newest compression tools that microsoft had and that there will probably never be more than one disc games
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25. January 2006 @ 15:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Unbelievable!

Definately a must see too believe. My jaw just dropped when i played it.
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25. January 2006 @ 16:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
wow nice read

and agree for 96kb that looked amazing


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26. January 2006 @ 00:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's all thanks to procedural synthesis (in short: hardware is used to generate graphics). They looks awesome, and require only a small amount of space. Like the article says oblivion's forests are generated by procedural synthesis (technology called speedtree).
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- XNA:

XNA is a development tool that Microsoft introduced in 2004. XNA helps developers build games more quickly and more efficiently. XNA represents a refinement of everything that has been learned developing for the Xbox, which has an architecture that is very similar to the Xbox 360. As a new development tool, it represents a change in the way that game developers might program, and how it impacts on filesize is an unknown factor.

- Procedural Synthesis:

Procedural synthesis is has a great deal of potential to effect the Xbox 360's filesizes. In short, procedural synthesis is a way of producing graphics that Microsoft has pushed heavily with the introduction of the Xbox 360, including specific hardware functions designed to do handle procedural synthesis. It uses algorithms to produce high quality graphics out of extremely small files. For the best example of what procedural synthesis can do, check out .kkrieger, which means Warrior in German. This first person shooter is built almost entirely from procedural graphics, and as a consequence occupies about 96 Kilobytes of space. Yes, the game responsible for this screenshot here, here, and here could fit almost 14 copies on an old-fashioned 1.4 megabyte floppy disk.

You can download a beta version of this game from the developer's website here, but be warned that it's fairly buggy, and meant more as a technology demonstration than anything else.

Procedural synthesis is the reason that Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion has such brilliant forests. Oblivion makes use of a technology called SpeedTree, a middleware product for procedurally generating forests and foliage. You can see other examples of their software in screenshots here, here, and here.

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