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Can't Convert Those Pesky DRM .wma files?
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5. May 2006 @ 06:23 |
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yeah, but since they're encrypted WMA files, just about the only program that burns them easily will be Window$ Media Player, and it DOESN'T burn track data... just an fyi
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Rock4Ever
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5. May 2006 @ 12:17 |
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thats okay, i only use wmp to burn cds anyway.
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Rock4Ever
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5. May 2006 @ 14:29 |
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okay they are encoded into the wma v8 audio codec, help please.
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Rock4Ever
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5. May 2006 @ 14:48 |
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i figured it out, i have to burn a cd, but it doesnt matter, they are rw's i used nero burning rom and it worked.
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6. May 2006 @ 03:58 |
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sorry i didn't answer right away, i had to get some sleep. i'm glad you were able to figure it out, though :) just remember when you re-rip them as WMA files (if you choose wma) to turn OFF the "copy protect music" feature in the options. i personally prefer mp3's, but you need at least WMP10 to do that.
anywayz, congrats!
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Rock4Ever
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7. May 2006 @ 08:54 |
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ya, i used Nero burning rom and burnt them to a cdrw, then i ripped them with wmp10 into mp3, then erased the cd and started all over again. i hope this helps someone
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daisygurl
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14. June 2006 @ 10:14 |
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Alright, I am going to do my best to stump you guys so I feel validated for being stumpted myself...
I have a bunch of wma DRM protected audio that I can't seem to get to work for me. They refuse to play in winamp, WM 10, WM 11 and just about every other app that I have tried. In WM 10 (the app I used to rip them initially -- they were ripped from my audio CD's that I have since sold) when I try to play the files, WM tries to request a new license from microsoft, and when I select "Download License" it comes back saying that the file has been downloaded 10 times already, thus it has reached the limit. This pisses me off because I didn't download the files from WM Music Center in the first place.
Anyway... I have tried tunebite and since it runs off of WM player, it obviously does not work. I have tried to burn the CD in WM and other apps (though I haven't tried Nero yet and I have the inclination that it worked for me in the past -- do you think it will work considering these circumstances?). I have had no success thus far. I will try Nero with these files, but I am reluctant to think that it will work. In addition, I have tried FreeMe which is a command prompt based program that strips the DRM from the file, but apparently it runs off of version 2 of DRM and I have version 1 on the files that I have been working on. I haven't tried FreeMe on any of the other files that I have DRM on because it is time consuming as you have to do one file at a time.
Essentially, I am out of ideas... I could try to use Nero to create a virtual compilation as described earlier in the thread, but I fear that it will not work either given the fact that WM player will not even play it. I have tried to locate the file on my computer with the licenses (My Music > My Licenses... or something like that), but due to a recent re-format of my computer, I have lost those files. Luckily, I saved all my music on an external, but unfortunately the license folder was not in with my music. So, life sucks! Any thoughts or ideas?
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15. June 2006 @ 03:04 |
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hey, daisygurl.
the only reason i can think of why it said you reached your limit on licences, is if you're running a peer2peer file sharing program, and 9 other people downloaded the file(s) :).
anyways, to answer your problem, i need to briefly explain the DRM process. when you rip a song to .wma, the WMA Codec creates a "code" based upon your PC and the individual song. then, in order to play the song again, you must have that code (the licence), which contains info on which PC can play the selected song. the .wma file links to the licence, which designates the PC that can play it. each PC has it's own licence. having a WMA file without the licence is like having one-half of a note. the codec won't know how that you're allowed to play the file without the other half (the licence). so basically, your only option would be to re-rip from the CD(s).
as for Nero, it only burns wma's if you have the licence, so...
so until someone cracks the WMA 9 codec (which is about 2 seconds before M$ releases WMA 10), i'm afraid your files are nothing more than taking up space on your hard drive (although technically, according to $ony anyways, once the CD's are no longer yours you should "delete all mp3's thereof", lol :D ). sorry for your luck, man.
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daisygurl
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15. June 2006 @ 05:40 |
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Well, I am not running a p2p file sharing program. These files were not downloaded via p2p and as for microsoft and the error it was giving me... well lets just say that DRM sucks and leave it at that. All the files that I have ripped have been ripped from genuine CD's that I forked out far too much money on, so as far as I'm concerned (and given the amount paid for the CD's), I own the ripped versions as much as I do the CD (though I didn't want to mess with the physical CD's anymore).
Your response was expected. I finally cleared the rest of the wma files off my computer and I have begun downloading the albums that I care about from allofmp3.com. I am officially through with wma. It has been nothing but a source of problems from the beginning. As far as I am concerned, mp3 is the best way to go. Thanks for your help though. It is appreciated.
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15. June 2006 @ 11:13 |
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yeah, no prob. i pretty much agree with your response, too. we the consumer pitch out too much of our hard earned money, and then after facing the hassles of actually being able to play our music successfully on our PC's and portable music device (SOUNDS easy, huh?), then the Record Labels come out with all new "encryptions" to keep OUR music off of OUR digital media devices. unless of course you throw even MORE money their way.
well SCREW that! i personally use only mp3's for EVERY situation, and have devoted a good portion of my existence to aiding those with PC and or music problems, and just wish i had a way i could've helped you out, dude. if it was me, i'd just get on my fav. P2P prog and dL the missing songs (which i honestly don't do as often as i COULD).
allofmp3s.com seems to be a reputable (although debateably "illegal") company based in Russia, and i've had more than a few good comments come my way about them. i haven't had the opportunity to try them myself, as they won't take my only cred. card, but i trusted them enough to try it though :) so...
peace
P.S., if anyone out there just CAN'T live without using WMA files, at least remember to turn OFF the Digital Rights Management feature. i choose to defy Micro$oft directly by going elsewhere for my happiness ;)
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xangoball
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21. June 2006 @ 12:19 |
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I recently had the good fortune to find a MP3 player lying on the ground while I was walking home. At first I thought that it probably wouldn't work, but to my great surprise it worked perfectly fine. And to my even greater pleasure it contained nothing but music that I liked (rock mostly with some electronic, hip-hop, etc.). Of course I was very happy and one of the first things I did was to transfer the music onto my computer. That's when I hit a sour note with my new find. I played a few of the cds on WMP and everything was fine until I tried playing some WMA DRM protected files. I got the license downloaded with no problem so when I played yet another protected cd I thought that it wasn't going to be a problem. Problem was that the cd had reached its license download limit. Finding this out has been somewhat of a good thing though since after I founds the player I decided to join a music download website but still hadn't decided on one yet because most sites don't offer a very wide variety of downloads for the different electronic genres. Now I know that when I do join one it is going to be one that has the least number of limitations on what the user can do with a bought file. So my questions are:
1) How do I go about making a cd by playing the files on my player into the computer? (I have a cable that connects to the player and split?s the sound into L/R jacks)
2) Who knows of a good website with a wide variety of electronic music downloads in the different genres, such as jungle, d&b, techno, house, ambient, tribal, happy hardcore, hardcore, trance, etc.? I would truly appreciate any help with this especially if the site has some of the more obscure/unknown genres.
3) Is there a FreeMe-like program that strips WMA DRM Version 1 protection?
4) And finally does anyone know a site where technical information (i.e. cracking) can be discussed? (This was the reason I joined the site as I had an idea about using the DRM file playing rights given to my player to create a program for stripping or bypassing WMA DRM)
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22. June 2006 @ 09:57 |
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wow, xango, sounds like you got real lucky, then real unlucky ;) oh, well, that's karma for ya (lol). probably, the person who "lost" it got fed up with trying to do what you're trying to do, and just threw it on the ground.
anyways to answer (some of) your questions:
1) the cable you have won't work, you need one that's got the same type of connector you plug in to the mp3 player, only on both ends. the other end goes into your AUXiliary INput on your sound card. then you use an audio capture prog (like ) to record the incoming sound to a new file. what really sux is that you'll need to sit and record each one as they play, and if you're not paying attention, you might have to open the file in an audio editor to remove the dead air (been there ;P ). i use Sony Sound Forge, but that's "abit" pricey, so would work, too. you should record a test file to check levels first (about 30 seconds should do), and while you're waiting you can play videogames, or watch a movie (as long as you pay attention for the end of the songs!).
2) it's kinda tough to find techno music on download services (most don't even have it listed as a genre and classify it as "Rock"), but your best bet i'm afraid, is iTunes. they have so many obscure artists, and you can browse and sample the tunes before you buy. just an fyi, if you DO try iTunes, find yourself a copy of version 5, and DON'T install the new version 6, because iTunes uses m4p files (iTunes' equivalent of wma's DRM), and using version 5 you can run jHymn and convert the files to mp3 simply :) this is what i do, on the rare occasion that i DO download using iTunes. if you can't find v.5, i have it, so just ask :) also note that iTunes lists Techno-like music under "Electronic", but they DO have quite the selection, and even have an "indie" section in there as well (for rarer cuts).
for more about comparing music dL services: http://www.mp3.com/stories/3261.html
3) the only way, (as i mentioned in my next-to-last post) to get past the DRM, is if you HAVE the rights [so to speak :) ]. you can then play the files and capture them using a program like Audacity, or my personal favorite: Tunebite! which, while NOT free >:P has the feature to automatically detect when a DRM song is playing, and record it, copying also the ID3 Tags :)
4) dunno on that one. most sites are kinda skiddish about free talk of "cracking" and such (unless their servers are overseas). i recommend googling awhile using the keywords "reverse engineer" "wma" and "DRM", or something.
oh, another thing. what were you talking about DRM protected CD's??? ("Problem was that the cd had reached its license download limit.") CD's don't need licence downloads. or were you talking about WMA's?
anywayz, if you have any more questions/problems, feel free to ask. if it CAN be done (other than cracking/programming), i can do it :)
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iamchem
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25. August 2006 @ 12:55 |
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I guess by now many people have learned that the current version of Nero (Nero 7 Ultra) will not permit write protected (i.e., writing to CD not allowed) WMA files to be "burned" to an image drive. It would appear that the loophole in the version of Nero that Hulkmania was using has now been closed. You now get an insufficient license error message when you try to do that.
Is this what others have found with the current Nero version? Does anyone know what version of Nero Hulkmania was using, when he wrote his post to this thread nearly a year ago? He only says "the newest version" in the post.
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Rock4Ever
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26. August 2006 @ 05:36 |
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i use Nero 7 ultra, and as long as i get a license to play the song. (ie double click it and wondows media player should pop an IE that says downloading DRM license, and then i can burn it with burning rom
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26. August 2006 @ 19:29 |
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Nero 7 will burn protected wma's as long as you have "burn rights" for the file, not necessarily just "playing rights".
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iamchem
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27. August 2006 @ 09:42 |
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I am talking about a music file downloaded from someplace like Rhapsody, which only comes with a license to listen to it or sync it to an MP3 player. You do not have permission to burn it to a CD. When I tried burning such a file to an image drive in Nero 7 Ultra I got the standard "no license" error message. The reason for this restriction is that the file loses it license protection once it is burned as a standard music file (a .cda file) onto a CD. Therefore, if you already have rights to burn a music file to a CD, you are home free. Nero 7 Ultra must consider "burning" to an image file to be the same as burning to a CD.
Am I missing something here?
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27. August 2006 @ 16:35 |
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you are correct that Nero considers burning an image the same as burning a CD. they are essentially the same thing (and close to the same size, if you'll notice); image files are merely "physical" manifestations of their Audio CD counterparts.
the part about being burnt as .cda files is wrong, however. cda files are merely links to the hardcoded data on the disc. check it out: they're only 44 bytes each! you can copy them to the hard drive, but you won't have the song data, just the link ;)
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iamchem
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28. August 2006 @ 07:00 |
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Thanks for the information about .cda files. I always wondered about the connection between .cds files and WAVE files. Now I know.
I assume, based on the post from Hulkmania at the start of this thread that some older version of Nero (older that 7 Ultra) did NOT check protection licenses, when it wrote (burned) to an image drive. Does anyone know what version Hulkmania was referring to in that original post?
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Kryptos99
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28. August 2006 @ 08:28 |
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Cool, Thanks!
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iamchem
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30. August 2006 @ 07:44 |
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Hulkmania,
Can you please tell me what verion of Nero you were using, when you posted about using Nero to write protected .wma files to a Nero Image Drive?
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30. August 2006 @ 11:23 |
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okay, not to rain on everyone's parade, but keep in mind that even when you figure out which version of Nero it was, it still most likely won't work with the LATEST wma codec, as i'm certain Micro$oft's goons have already seen this site. just a head's up.
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Gimley
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17. December 2006 @ 10:42 |
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17. December 2006 @ 13:15 |
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the concept here is to not have to pay to convert music you've ALREADY paid for. however, SoundTaxi should do as good a job as Tunebite.
also, you might try fairuse4wm. it seems to work for most of MY wma/wmv filez. plus it's free!
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c00ns
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20. December 2006 @ 10:40 |
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i cant seem to get it to work. i've tried creating images of the audio files i want to convert but they dont seem to read under the RIP menu of the media player. the music plays, but it doesn't show under the rip section. i think the problem is that i need to create an audio image using the audio compilation option, but everytime i try to do that it wants to burn to a cd instead of creating something on a virtual drive. help please!
arrrgh, matey!
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20. December 2006 @ 14:09 |
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c00ns, need abit more info in order to help you...
how did you try to make "images" of the files? are you talking about ISO images, or something else? how is it you started the music playing without being in the Rip menu? if you're using Windows Media Player, keep in mind that it doesn't burn images, only CD's.
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