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15. July 2007 @ 10:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
They're far better made than the Apevia units, I think better looking, and sometimes cheaper!



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3. August 2007 @ 01:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The case is your choice.
The hard drive is fine.
I don't know the performance of the heatsink better look that up.
I don't like the motherboard, for that money you can buy something at least half decent. By getting an E4300, you're telling me you want to overclock, and that motherboard will leave you disappointed. How about a Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3?
Memory's pretty good
As for the case fan, I'd say avoid thermally controlled fans. If you want to choose between high performance and quiet operation, either get a 3pin fan that plugs into the motherboard and use speedfan to control it, or buy a frotn bay fan controller. Thermal controlled ones usually go a bit funny, and at full speed, that fan is going to deafen you. Thermaltake are always very conservative about their fan noise ratings, at full whack that one's going to be about 55dB, that's about the same volume of speech, so you're going to have to raise your voice to talk to people over it.
Go with a Scythe S-Flex 1600rpm fan. They're quiet and they still move a shedload of air.
Ditch the rear-bay cooler, they rarely achieve anything. The best way of cooling your Graphics card is to have a decent side fan in your case. The method of side ventilation in that case isn't that good, so I'd recommend perhaps changing to one that supported a side 120mm fan instead.
hard drive coolers are also usually unnecessary, and noisy. If you want something to cool your hard drives that doesn't blow your face off, try and track down a nexus frisbee.

by H2, do you mean Halo 2? If so, at what resolution and detail?
The current high-end GPU of choice is an 8800GTS 640MB.



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10. August 2007 @ 18:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Alrighty..

Im back to a budget computer formyself... I have about 500.. But with 300 bucks..

I need a good overclockable Cpu thats instock... >.> i cant find e4300 anymore..

And i need a video card that can handle Halo 2.

I need a good mobo with high fsb and fast memory compatiblity...

I need... a cpu fan, a cheap but decent case, good fans...

I have the cd drive, the hdd and everything else..

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11. August 2007 @ 02:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For what $300, or $500?
That's an incredibly tight budget to build a gaming PC for.
I'm going to assume you need a new power suppply unless you tell me what make and rating your old one is.

E4400 $126 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115014
GA-965P DS3 $110 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128012
AC Freezer 7 Pro $35 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...eezer%2b7%2bPro
EVGA 7600GT $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130017 $20 mail-in rebate
NZXT Apollo $75 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146028

That's $446 with a $20 mail in rebate to knock it down to $426. That however assumes you already have appropriate RAM (You'll want DDR2 PC6400) and a good PSU.
The GPU is also the minimum I'd say you need to have to run halo 2 well.

Can I also recommend the XP Patch for Halo 2, to save you from needing Vista?



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11. August 2007 @ 20:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well, if i use the xp patch, can i still play online?

And... yea.. id be needing a powersupply and ram, i doo however have a 450W ps... :\

Anyways..

Thanks for your help sammoris i wuv u :D

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12. August 2007 @ 01:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Which 450W PSU? A good power supply is very important.

As for the online play, you couldn't when I got the patch, I don't know whether that's been changed yet or not.



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12. August 2007 @ 10:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yea.. i want h2 cuz of the online multi man, and making my maps to play with freinds...

So Vista it is :|

and the 450w ps is a ASYS or somethign like that... lol

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12. August 2007 @ 10:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
and whats better the E4400 or the E4300 :?

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12. August 2007 @ 11:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The exact brand is important, a lot of 450W power supplies can only deliver less than 200W before they fail in spectacular fashion.

Lastmastr: Isn't it obvious? lol



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19. August 2007 @ 20:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well no no its not, from what ive read on this thread and from reviews the E4300 is better for overclocking.. adn the E4400 is better stock.. but what about overclocked?

IDK im new to this stuff, thats why i ask.

And since weve only been atlking about an intel build?

AMD has cheaper dual core proccesors with higher FSB's what would be better teh amd or the intel build?



Oh and i finnaly chose a case :D

The Antec 900
Ive seen them in person and there real nice. Expenisive but nice. :D

http://www.antec.com/Detail.bok?no=558

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20. August 2007 @ 02:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
They are nice cases, I've got one. To keep them quiet, set all the fans to low speed, that's all you'll ever need.
As for the CPU, both the E4300 and E4400 are great overclockers, but I can forsee the 4400 ending up at a higher speed. Suppose it depends what the cost difference is. The AMD CPUs only have a higher FSB because of HyperTransport, they're slower CPUs, and they don't overclock anywhere near as much, but they are cheap.



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20. August 2007 @ 23:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Im probalby gunna end up getting the set up you recomended.. but i might spend a little more on the vid card and ill probably get that badass powersupply you first showed me :D

OH yea, i liked that video card, but it has DVI, i need the other connection >.> i forgot what its called...

but yea...

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21. August 2007 @ 00:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@LastMastr

Before you "finalize" your build, could you tell me your current budget and what parts you already have? As I would like to submit my own recommendation for your new build. And as stated since price is a issue I would go with a AMD processor they have a better price to performance ratio.



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Most graphics cards come with DVI to VGA dongles nowadays, so you can run VGA monitors off DVI ports. Even with these dongles attached, there's no loss in the quality of the image.
As for the X2 CPUs, granted they're a little cheaper, but given the price of some of the low-end Core 2s now, I'm seeing little reason to go with them.



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21. August 2007 @ 18:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well i honestly dont have a a inmind price range.

500 is reasonable.
700 i can strecth for.
800 i can bleed for.

I dont know.. it really depends on what i want, keeping in mind that im going to go with the cheapest but nessacary, but badass, parts possible.

Like that Gigabyte mobo does almost everythign the 680i board does, but lower fsb on the memory for example.. thats alright. Gigabytes mobo is good.

Then i need the minimum vid card to play Halo2 that one for 100 bucks is good too..

Ill probably end up getting the E4400 anyways..

The case is probably the only thing im splurging on cuz i like it soo much...

And im probably gunna get a Hiper Type-R power supply.

The hdd.. id get the most gigs for the least amount of bucks.. not goign over 100 dollars...

Id wait on the CD and Floopy Drives...

I need DDR2-800 Ram...

I have a good sound card :D

So im trying to keep it as low as possible and still have a good rig...

But i cant say i have a limit, cuz im tryign to get money from other people..

liek right now i have 300 i can spend.. but tommorow or a month from now i can have 1000 :|

who knows..

With this computer i think i hit about 800 already... :S but im almost there rofl.

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21. August 2007 @ 18:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well it sounds like already have a pretty good idea in your mind of what you want. My suggestion with the memory is to buy from Crucial or Corsair for performance memory. I know you can get a 320Gb SeaGate drive for US $80 so that might give you a idea what things cost. Anyway the build sounds good and if your set to get the E4400 then I really don't have anything else to suggest.



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22. August 2007 @ 06:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I used to recommend Hiper Type-R units, but the number of reported issues since has been less than satisfying, so now I recommend the Corsair units.
How about:
E4400 and GA-965P-DS3 $236
Corsair 520W $115 after rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...=corsair%2b520w
Samsung 320GB $75 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...Samsung%2b320GB
Corsair 2GB PC6400C4 $67 after rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145034

That's $493 on the important bits. A half-decent case, card reader, Optical drive should make it total under $600.



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22. August 2007 @ 23:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Im sorry but I play on a pc similiar to the one i want at the local gaming lounge. It has the ANTEC 900 case. The one i want, and the Hiper TYPE-R ps. And the same crucial memory we listed. but i cant make out the board, but i know its runnin a E6600. and this huge VID card. i just dont know what it is cuz its soo dark in that room.. rofl...

But.. the antec with the 900 looks awesome. And thsoe comptuer sare on alot. and that place has been open about 5 months. And it looks to me as though those PS can hold it out. Plus arent they under warranty?

But yea..

Recomend me a better video card.. More Bang for less Buck..

Just in case last moment i can upgrade to a the quad proccesor and a better vid card :D maybe a 680i MoBo



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23. August 2007 @ 07:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm pleased to see Hipers are popular with your gaming lounge since they come from my country, and I own one and have had no problems. However, that's not to say many haven't. I typically recommend the Corsair 620W unit.

The Antec 900 case is good looking to some, I own one of those as well (the same PC with the Hiper PSU in fact) but it's not to everyone's taste. Despite that, there are loads of them around, so many that I now consider them 'common'.

As for the video card, perhaps try for a 7950GT, quite fast but affordable.




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I know what you mean, the other day my freind called it FUGLY and iwanted to cry. :'(

But i really dont care if there common, its hard for m eto choose a case that i actually like. And the 900 does it for me :D

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24. August 2007 @ 03:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's funny, two of my friends both used the exact same word, fugly, including the f infront of it.
To be honest, it's not a 'nice' looking case, it's an evil looking case, which in the eyes of LAN goers is good.
However, my other case the NZXT lexa, attracted the comment "we must kill your PC before it turns into a cyberman". Not sure how I responded to that, don't think I did!





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