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The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.
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Originally posted by EMC4ever:
Ryu77 thanks for this great thread. I've been searching the web for a couple weeks and this is by far the most comprehensive collection of HD back-up info available. All your responses in other threads have been very informative.
I'm in the process of buying a PS3 (40Gb) and upgrading my computer (I currently have a E6600 OC'd to 3.2ghz) and I want to make 720p DVD's playable on my PS3 from 4.4gb mkv files, which are readily available on the web.
From my understanding all the mkv files need to transcoded/re-encoded to play. And the transcoding process makes the files slightly larger and won't fit on a DVD5. So they need to re-encoded at lower bitrate, which takes hours. Am I right so far? Has anyone tried to overburn the trancoded files on to a DVD+R? They can typically hold 4.6gb. LINK
Alternately, if the overburning doesn't work. What type of computer system do you recommend for the conversion process? I have a core 2 duo now, but I'm considering a Q6600, E8400 or Q9450. Does the re-encoding programs take advantage of SSE4 and the quad core? And how long does it take a 2 hour movie to re-encode.
thanks again.
Go quad core! Using Nero recode it takes about 2-4 hours to recode a 2 hour movie. No hiccups while running other apps either.
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22. April 2008 @ 23:54 |
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Here is my input and output for a file that has no video.
General #0
Complete name : K:\Movie Software\Work file\movie
Format : Matroska
File size : 7.95 GiB
PlayTime : 1h 34mn
Bit rate : 12.1 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2008-03-31 13:51:05
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.1.0 ('Another Place To Fall') built on Aug 19 2007 13:40:07
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1
Cover : Yes / Yes / Yes
Video #0
Codec : AVC
Codec/Family : AVC
Codec/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Codec profile : High@L5.1
Codec settings, CABAC : Yes
PlayTime : 1h 34mn
Bit rate : 10.0 Mbps
Nominal bit rate : 10.6 Mbps
Width : 1920 pixels
Height : 822 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 2.35
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Progressive
Title : 1920x822 @ 10558 Kbps
Writing library : x264 - core 58 r786M aa5391a
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=6 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / me-prepass=1 / brdo=1 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=2 / deadzone=6,4 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=10558 / ratetol=1.0 / rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' / qcomp=1.00 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:0.6:16.0
Language : English
Audio #0
Codec : DTS
PlayTime : 1h 34mn
Bit rate : 1536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 24 bits
Title : DTS Core 5.1 @ 1.5 Mbps
Language : English
General #0
ID : 1
Complete name : K:\Movie Software\Work file\Movie
Format : BluRay Video
Format/Family : MPEG-2
File size : 7.77 GiB
PlayTime : 32ms
Video #0
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
MenuID : 1 (0x1)
Codec : AVC
Codec/Family : AVC
Codec/Info : MPEG-4 AVC
Language : English
Audio #0
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
MenuID : 1 (0x1)
Codec : AC3
PlayTime : 32ms
Bit rate mode : CBR
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
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23. April 2008 @ 11:49 |
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Originally posted by RYU:
How to convert a Blu-ray disc to BD-25, DVD-9 or DVD-5:
Is there a picture guide for this it would help me out alot.I'm about to buy BD-ROM drive is this all i need as far as a need for a drive or do i need a BD-Buner drive?
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tsMuxeR has been updated to v1.8.4(b). It now accepts srt subtitles as input! :-D
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
tsMuxeR has been updated to v1.8.4(b). It now accepts srt subtitles as input! :-D
"Bout friggin time. That's good news
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Originally posted by RYU:
Second Option.
1) Extract the Blu-ray folders to your HDD via AnyDVD HD.
2) Start tsMuxeR and browse to your main movie file (BDMV/STREAM/00000.m2ts).
3) Demux the desired audio and subtitle streams (don't worry about the video).
4) Create a script in AVIsynth: DirectShowSource("D:\YOUR_BLURAY_VIDEO/BDMV/STREAM/00000.m2ts")
5) Load the AVIsynth script into MeGUI and use the MeGUI Blu-ray profiles as linked to in the links section ^ or here: http://www.mediafire.com/?f1zgyj5mn3n. I would suggest MKV as output format.
6) Load new h264 (in MKV container) created from MeGUI along with the other audio & subtitle streams you want to keep into tsMuxeR.
7) Save new m2ts media file or output Blu-ray folders to burn to disc.
Can we get a picture guide for this? I have searched goggle & yahoo & can't find one. Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Originally posted by NexGen76:
Originally posted by RYU:
Second Option.
1) Extract the Blu-ray folders to your HDD via AnyDVD HD.
2) Start tsMuxeR and browse to your main movie file (BDMV/STREAM/00000.m2ts).
3) Demux the desired audio and subtitle streams (don't worry about the video).
4) Create a script in AVIsynth: DirectShowSource("D:\YOUR_BLURAY_VIDEO/BDMV/STREAM/00000.m2ts")
5) Load the AVIsynth script into MeGUI and use the MeGUI Blu-ray profiles as linked to in the links section ^ or here: http://www.mediafire.com/?f1zgyj5mn3n. I would suggest MKV as output format.
6) Load new h264 (in MKV container) created from MeGUI along with the other audio & subtitle streams you want to keep into tsMuxeR.
7) Save new m2ts media file or output Blu-ray folders to burn to disc.
Can we get a picture guide for this? I have searched goggle & yahoo & can't find one. Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
I thought that the steps were quite self explanatory. I have started a MeGUI guide which I hope to extend to a full guide explaining the above conversion in more detail. The only problem is I am working many hours lately. I recently made a career change. I am now working in a large Audio/Visual electrical appliance store and I am dedicating all of my energy to becoming the best that I can in my new choice of career. In my first 2 weeks in the store (having never worked in a retail electrical appliance store before) I have sold about $75,000 worth of A/V equipment myself. So needless to say, I can see a bright future here and that is certianly my highest priority at the moment.
I will continue to work on a guide in my spare time but I can't give any indication as to when I might complete this. I actually have a day off tomorrow for the first time in a while, so I plan to have a good crack at my guide tomorrow. I can not guarantee it's completion though. I'm sorry if this disappoints you but I also feel that given a little patience and dedication that you should be able to complete the above process without photos. Instead of looking for a guide, you could also try doing research on each of the applications I have mentioned. That way you could become familiar with each individual application and that inherently will make your efforts a much smoother process.
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
First Option.
1) Extract the Blu-ray folders to your HDD via AnyDVD HD.
2) Start tsMuxeR and browse to your main movie file (BDMV/STREAM/00000.m2ts).
3) Select the streams you want to keep and save new m2ts media file or output Blu-ray folders to burn to disc.
Second Option.
1) Extract the Blu-ray folders to your HDD via AnyDVD HD.
2) Start tsMuxeR and browse to your main movie file (BDMV/STREAM/00000.m2ts).
3) Demux the desired audio and subtitle streams (don't worry about the video).
4) Create a script in AVIsynth: DirectShowSource("D:\YOUR_BLURAY_VIDEO/BDMV/STREAM/00000.m2ts")
5) Load the AVIsynth script into MeGUI and use the MeGUI Blu-ray profiles as linked to in the links section ^ or here: http://www.mediafire.com/?f1zgyj5mn3n. I would suggest MKV as output format.
6) Load new h264 (in MKV container) created from MeGUI along with the other audio & subtitle streams you want to keep into tsMuxeR.
7) Save new m2ts media file or output Blu-ray folders to burn to disc.
Hello,
I have some Region A concert Blu-ray discs that I want to watch in my Region B PS3. Can I achieve that using one of these methods?
Thanks!
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30. April 2008 @ 00:44 |
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Originally posted by SupDuper:
Hello,
I have some Region A concert Blu-ray discs that I want to watch in my Region B PS3. Can I achieve that using one of these methods?
Thanks!
AnyDVD-HD will remove any region coding.
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30. April 2008 @ 09:24 |
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
Originally posted by SupDuper:
Hello,
I have some Region A concert Blu-ray discs that I want to watch in my Region B PS3. Can I achieve that using one of these methods?
Thanks!
AnyDVD-HD will remove any region coding.
I see... So, using the procedures you announced, I could rip the Blu-Ray disk to a single file that the PS3 could read, right?
Guess, I'll have to find a Blu-Ray drive for my PC and an external Harddrive for my PS3, then. :)
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Okay I'm at the point i need to encode my video.I'm using Nero recode but my video is(Blu-Ray) VC-1.What do i need to do to get Nero recode to see my video file so i can encode it?
If i put my(Blu-Ray)VC-1 file into Mkv would this let Nero see the file & let me encode it.I have tried RipBot264 but for some reason my files come out to small after encoding & i have tried Megui but i can't use that program.So Nero is my only source i can use to encode my video....Thx.
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Originally posted by NexGen76:
Okay I'm at the point i need to encode my video.I'm using Nero recode but my video is(Blu-Ray) VC-1.What do i need to do to get Nero recode to see my video file so i can encode it?
If i put my(Blu-Ray)VC-1 file into Mkv would this let Nero see the file & let me encode it.I have tried RipBot264 but for some reason my files come out to small after encoding & i have tried Megui but i can't use that program.So Nero is my only source i can use to encode my video....Thx.
MeGUI is your best choice. Learning to use it would be rewarding. However a workaround with Nero Recode is that you will need to learn how to frameserve with AVIsynth. For some strange reason though when you try to open a AVIsynth script directly from the Nero Recode browser, it won't work. You will need to drag and drop the script into the Recode window.
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Originally posted by omega379:
Here is my input and output for a file that has no video.
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=6 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / me-prepass=1 / brdo=1 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=2 / deadzone=6,4 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=10558 / ratetol=1.0 / rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' / qcomp=1.00 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:0.6:16.0
Your video file has used too many reference frames. Your only option is to re-encode the video.
Originally posted by EMC4ever:
Ryu77 thanks for this great thread. I've been searching the web for a couple weeks and this is by far the most comprehensive collection of HD back-up info available. All your responses in other threads have been very informative.
I'm in the process of buying a PS3 (40Gb) and upgrading my computer (I currently have a E6600 OC'd to 3.2ghz) and I want to make 720p DVD's playable on my PS3 from 4.4gb mkv files, which are readily available on the web.
From my understanding all the mkv files need to transcoded/re-encoded to play. And the transcoding process makes the files slightly larger and won't fit on a DVD5. So they need to re-encoded at lower bitrate, which takes hours. Am I right so far? Has anyone tried to overburn the trancoded files on to a DVD+R? They can typically hold 4.6gb. LINK
Alternately, if the overburning doesn't work. What type of computer system do you recommend for the conversion process? I have a core 2 duo now, but I'm considering a Q6600, E8400 or Q9450. Does the re-encoding programs take advantage of SSE4 and the quad core? And how long does it take a 2 hour movie to re-encode.
thanks again.
Thank you for the compliments. I do try to help as much as I can. It's in my nature to help others.
As Odin said, a quad core will encode a lot faster. I remember someone stating that they had the x264 codec running through MeGUI and it was using 100% of all four cores. :-)
I would not recommend overburning as from what I understand it could potentially damage your drive.
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Originally posted by EMC4ever:
Ryu77 thanks for this great thread. I've been searching the web for a couple weeks and this is by far the most comprehensive collection of HD back-up info available. All your responses in other threads have been very informative.
I'm in the process of buying a PS3 (40Gb) and upgrading my computer (I currently have a E6600 OC'd to 3.2ghz) and I want to make 720p DVD's playable on my PS3 from 4.4gb mkv files, which are readily available on the web.
From my understanding all the mkv files need to transcoded/re-encoded to play. And the transcoding process makes the files slightly larger and won't fit on a DVD5. So they need to re-encoded at lower bitrate, which takes hours. Am I right so far? Has anyone tried to overburn the trancoded files on to a DVD+R? They can typically hold 4.6gb. LINK
Alternately, if the overburning doesn't work. What type of computer system do you recommend for the conversion process? I have a core 2 duo now, but I'm considering a Q6600, E8400 or Q9450. Does the re-encoding programs take advantage of SSE4 and the quad core? And how long does it take a 2 hour movie to re-encode.
thanks again.
Thank you for the compliments. I do try to help as much as I can. It's in my nature to help others.
As Odin said, a quad core will encode a lot faster. I remember someone stating that they had the x264 codec running through MeGUI and it was using 100% of all four cores. :-)
I would not recommend overburning as from what I understand it could potentially damage your drive.
I do have a quad core, a 2 hour movie using AVISynth/Megui takes about an hour and a half.
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Ryu, or anyone that can help.
I want to try the Blu Ray profile for MeGui but I'm not sure what to do with this file or where to put it:
x264_hrd.patch file
I tried using the profile once but an error came up saying "C:\Program Files\megui\tools\x264\x264.exe: unknown option -- nal-hrd"
And what is the difference between the two profiles SA BluRay and SA BluRay Fast?
Thanks,
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Originally posted by odin24:
Ryu, or anyone that can help.
I want to try the Blu Ray profile for MeGui but I'm not sure what to do with this file or where to put it:
x264_hrd.patch file
I tried using the profile once but an error came up saying "C:\Program Files\megui\tools\x264\x264.exe: unknown option -- nal-hrd"
And what is the difference between the two profiles SA BluRay and SA BluRay Fast?
Thanks,
Odin, you need to put the extracted xml profile files into the profiles/video folder in the MeGUI installation directory. The difference between those two profiles is that one is optimised for speed, the other for quality.
If you want to use a profile that has been tweaked for even higher quality, you can download my Blu-ray profile here: http://www.mediafire.com/?cwfmxomah0r.
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
Originally posted by odin24:
Ryu, or anyone that can help.
I want to try the Blu Ray profile for MeGui but I'm not sure what to do with this file or where to put it:
x264_hrd.patch file
I tried using the profile once but an error came up saying "C:\Program Files\megui\tools\x264\x264.exe: unknown option -- nal-hrd"
And what is the difference between the two profiles SA BluRay and SA BluRay Fast?
Thanks,
Odin, you need to put the extracted xml profile files into the profiles/video folder in the MeGUI installation directory. The difference between those two profiles is that one is optimised for speed, the other for quality.
If you want to use a profile that has been tweaked for even higher quality, you can download my Blu-ray profile here: http://www.mediafire.com/?cwfmxomah0r.
Thanks Ryu, but you didn't address my first question; What do i do with the x264_hrd.patch file?
EDIT: I just realised it doesn't really look like a question... but it was. Come on man... what's wrong with your mind readin' skills!
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Originally posted by odin24:
Thanks Ryu, but you didn't address my first question; What do i do with the x264_hrd.patch file?
EDIT: I just realised it doesn't really look like a question... but it was. Come on man... what's wrong with your mind readin' skills!
I don't understand exactly what you want to know. That file is the actual x264 encoder, it's not a profile file. You need to point to it in the MeGUI "Settings/Program Paths" tab.
Back to the profiles, extract the XML profile file then place it in the "profiles/video" folder and you will be able to select that profile from the video section on the main window in MeGUI.
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
Originally posted by odin24:
Thanks Ryu, but you didn't address my first question; What do i do with the x264_hrd.patch file?
EDIT: I just realised it doesn't really look like a question... but it was. Come on man... what's wrong with your mind readin' skills!
I don't understand exactly what you want to know. That file is the actual x264 encoder, it's not a profile file. You need to point to it in the MeGUI "Settings/Program Paths" tab.
Back to the profiles, extract the XML profile file then place it in the "profiles/video" folder and you will be able to select that profile from the video section on the main window in MeGUI.
I have the three profiles loaded, megui sees them. I have the x264.exe path configured, that was never an issue. I don't understand what to do with the x264_hrd.patch file. I try to encode a mkv video using your profile but I get an error saying "Unknown Option: nal-hrd"
I grabbed this from a different forum on the same topic, does this have to do with what I'm trying to do. If so I have no idea what it means.
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svn co svn://svn.videolan.org/x264/trunk x264
cd x264
wget http://lists.videolan.org/attachs/20070107/x264_hrd.patch
patch -p0 < x264_hrd.patch
./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-debug --enable-pthread
make
make install
Maybe I'm asking the wrong question. Is there a patched version of x264.exe or do I have to apply the patch to the current version(rev839)?
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Odin, I would recommend running the update function in MeGUI and/or downloading the latest versions of the MeGUI core and the x264 encoder.
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
Odin, I would recommend running the update function in MeGUI and/or downloading the latest versions of the MeGUI core and the x264 encoder.
I think I have the latest x264 and whenever I try to update in Megui everything fails to download... could that be that Windows is blocking Megui from accessing the internet (just thought of that while typing). I gonna check that one out after work... 7am EST 5/06.
What is the latest version MeGUI?
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I stil cannot get MeGUI to automatically update, oh well. I just went to http://megui.org/auto/, this is where the update feature pulls is files from. So now I have the absolute latest version of x264.exe and it's running fine.
Thanks once again!
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
Originally posted by odin24:
Ryu, or anyone that can help.
I want to try the Blu Ray profile for MeGui but I'm not sure what to do with this file or where to put it:
x264_hrd.patch file
I tried using the profile once but an error came up saying "C:\Program Files\megui\tools\x264\x264.exe: unknown option -- nal-hrd"
And what is the difference between the two profiles SA BluRay and SA BluRay Fast?
Thanks,
Odin, you need to put the extracted xml profile files into the profiles/video folder in the MeGUI installation directory. The difference between those two profiles is that one is optimised for speed, the other for quality.
If you want to use a profile that has been tweaked for even higher quality, you can download my Blu-ray profile here: http://www.mediafire.com/?cwfmxomah0r.
THANKS-A-MILLION RYU!!!
Using Ryu's MeGUI Blu-Ray profile I just created a FLAWLESS AVCHD DVD9 with 2 audio streams (DTS, AC3) and subs (srt). Not only that fast forward, rewind, and chapter seek works perfect. I used tsMuxeR and Nero Burning ROM as well.
I can't wait for your guide... sorry to put you on the spot.
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