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18. April 2008 @ 08:49 |
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Don't forget though, that the cooling system for the card needs to match that of the laptop - if it didn't come with a graphics card, there probably won't be a means of cooling it.
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Note that the graphics card comes with heatpipes that are an exact fit for the laptop.
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18. April 2008 @ 14:40 |
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Id have to take the whole thing apart. I wanna upgrade the processor eventually anyways. Just gotta figure out what would work and how much I wanna spend...
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18. April 2008 @ 15:07 |
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Well, I can tell you now, that upgrading a laptop CPU isn't going to yield big benefits as the cooling systems often can't cope and the chipset may not be able to support the newer CPU. Additionally, as I've mentioned before adding a new card will be next to impossible. Realistically if you're fed up with integrated graphics, it's time to buy a new laptop.
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18. April 2008 @ 18:02 |
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Yes, integrated graphics can get you by for a while, but if you truly call yourself a gamer(in any sense of the word) then you owe it to yourself to see these games in full glory.
Get a new laptop. Maybe build a new desktop? Might be cheaper and play games even faster.
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18. April 2008 @ 18:05 |
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Amen to that.
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18. April 2008 @ 22:20 |
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19. April 2008 @ 03:35 |
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Ok!
I was looking around and i found this nx8500GT from msi. This was with my friend and he wanted to sell his pc...So i asked him to give it to me.
Now it is running good for me currently. But i plan to buy beeter card in the future. It is okay for now though.
For now i wantet to ask a question what is SLI ??
It was written in the board sli ready!!
Thanks.
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19. April 2008 @ 07:44 |
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engage: Assuming your motherboard won't need a BIOS update or have some other incompatibility, why are you changing the CPU anyway? You won't see much of a benefit for gaming with a new CPU because it's the integrated graphics that are holding you back.
manjil: The 8500GT is slow on legs. It'll do you for now and it beats integrated graphics, but do upgrade, it'll be worth it. SLI is nvidia's method of letting you use two graphics cards at once to increase the performance. Unless you own high end cards though, it's not worth it as it's cheaper to get a single card that's better.
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19. April 2008 @ 09:55 |
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its not nessacerily for gaming, just overall increase... i do alot of encoding and such on here. and that would be essentually a 1ghz increase over the two cores. so the performance increase would be immmense. never mind the increase in bus speed and doubling the L2 cache.
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19. April 2008 @ 10:59 |
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The core 2 duos aren't really much faster than core duos mhz for mhz, but the clock speed increase will benefit you some.
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20. April 2008 @ 00:24 |
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Quote: The core 2 duos aren't really much faster than core duos mhz for mhz, but the clock speed increase will benefit you some.
They are a bit faster, and that, plus the 800MHz FSB will give him a healthy performance increase.
engage16, you might also see a slight improvement in game performance, but don't expect much.
manjil, the 8500GT is an okay card for older games. Not so much for newer games. It's performance is about equal to a 6600GT/6800 vanilla(regular). It'll play Half Life 2 and Doom 3 maxed out. I'd say anything 2005 and older will be alright on that card.
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22. April 2008 @ 21:15 |
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Okay... I got a good issue for you guys to help me figure out... I can't run any GL Quakeworld client stabily... It will run at like 70 fps until I reach an open area or a door... Then it'll drop to 3fps and be completly horrible... Considering the GLQW could be ran on a 300mhz machine with a 16 mb Voodoo 3 card at 150 fps this is quite puzzling to me. I've been able to run it on other laptops of alot less quality... Any suggestions? I'm going to delete all my configs and start over. Maybe that may help, but your input is always appreciated...
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22. April 2008 @ 21:16 |
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Edit: Double Post
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22. April 2008 @ 21:18 |
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bug with the OpenGL render drivers perhaps?
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22. April 2008 @ 21:39 |
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go back to a previous driver version possibly? its just weird i can run HL2 no problem and not run QW... The game thats 12 years old and started it all... lol
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22. April 2008 @ 22:22 |
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It's alright, Return to Castle Wolfenstein isn't compatible with my graphics card...
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22. April 2008 @ 22:28 |
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i think its funny that intel keeps releasing bug fix drivers to address problems no one has ever heard of... yet the one thing that everyone complains about is game compatability (not performance), and they've done nearly nothing to fix that...
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22. April 2008 @ 22:29 |
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Let's just say Intel don't really design their hardware or software with gamers in mind.
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22. April 2008 @ 22:37 |
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well their claim is that the x3xxx series and beyond will get them into the 'gaming world'... yes, it has improved alot, even you can't ignore that fact... but until they dedicate a better more advanced team towards it, it won't go anywhere fast. the card works great for applications, i have multiple design software applications and they run like a charm on here, now if only they could actually work on the gaming side of things. any card can run design software, it takes true work and engineering to produce a decent gaming platform...
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23. April 2008 @ 00:51 |
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Quote: It's alright, Return to Castle Wolfenstein isn't compatible with my graphics card...
Wolfenstein doesn't work on an HD3870? Wow, it works fine on my 8800GTS last time I checked. I think there's a few levels where the reflections and fog don't render properly, but it works acceptably. You'd think basic stuff like Q3 engine would work fantastically given its lack of complex shaders and it's unbelievable performance.
The X1800XT plays it flawlessly. I wonder if classics like Call of Duty 1, Q3, and Wolfenstein will be forgotten. I love RTCW: Enemy Territory :( Some of these games still have HUGE fanbases as well. I wouldn't be surprised if there were some complaints as more people upgrade to DX10 hardware.
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23. April 2008 @ 05:37 |
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Indeed, but they removed 3DFXGlide support from the 3870s so they can't play it.
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23. April 2008 @ 10:24 |
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Haven't most cards lacked 3dfxglide support since the voodoo cards? I don't thing Q3 will ever die out, as it is a more 'recent' game and the change to dx10 hardware is going to take a few years. yes, the avid gamers are going to point out its issues but for the casual consumer, they're not going to notice...
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7. August 2008 @ 13:55 |
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im currently usin a gma x3000 and i get 40 fps on med details on crysis
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7. August 2008 @ 21:43 |
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Honestly, after some reading, the Intel X4500 IGP is not all that bad. It actually manages to play older games like Half-Life 2 and Far Cry just fine at high-ish settings at 1024 res.
It's still far from adequate for any newer games though; barely getting 20FPS in Company of Heroes at the lowest settings. It'll get you by if that's what you're stuck with. It's definitely a BIG leap from Extreme Graphics 1 & 2. But I wouldn't buy a motherboard with the X4500 expecting to play games. It's only fast enough for really old games.
Quote: im currently usin a gma x3000 and i get 40 fps on med details on crysis
I very highly doubt it at any resolution. The GMA can't even run it smoothly at the lowest in-game options.
Even the X1900XT only gets like 40FPS at medium settings. And that's only at 1024 res. The GeForce 6800 gets 9FPS at medium settings at lowest res.
The Intel GMA is no where near the performance of those cards. I call bullcrap.
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