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Full vs. Movie only, what do you do and how?
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snoland
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7. February 2006 @ 15:14 |
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Hi folks, I am new to the DVD-RB scene but am really liking the program. I am using the free version for now, but am considering upgrading to the pro. I am just curious what most others are doing. Are people finding the quality to be good enough that they just use it as a one click program and let it do a complete backup? Or are people using other programs to edit prior to sending it through DVD-RB?
Just curious what others are doing, as I am trying to lear some of the ins and outs of the software.
Thanks in advace,
Shawn
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7. February 2006 @ 16:05 |
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RB does "movie only" and "movies and menus only" as well create slideshow extras on its own. The only preprocessing that I do is with MenuShrink for episodic discs.
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L8ter
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7. February 2006 @ 17:25 |
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I don't do any movie only or similar setting's if I want to edit out content I run three click mode and manually select what I want to remove, but as I usually keep everything I will throw some low bitrate matrices in the mix if I think there may be a little to much compression!rebuilder does well enough I don't see the need to go losing content!
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8. February 2006 @ 17:26 |
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Personally I like to edit out all the previews and warning screens prior to loading it into rb and it also lowers the amount of compression required. I use dvdremake pro which is retail but there are some others freeware proggys that will work but not as user friendly as remake imo. I keep a functional menu, the movie, bloopers, deleted scenes, and what ever extras I want. I get rid of previews, warning screens, and what ever extras I don't want. Load it into rb and go.
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8. February 2006 @ 22:09 |
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I do very similar to Mort, I first rip with DVD Decrypter in file mode, I next run the video through DVD Remake PRO removing warning screens and most or all of the extras. I also convert menus to still if they are over 75mb's. Finally I run the video through DVD Rebuilder PRO using CCE SP
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snoland
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11. February 2006 @ 08:39 |
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Well, I did a sort of trial with a large movie. I did a 7.38g movie complete, with nothing removed. I used the free version with HC .17
I inserted Undot().Deen() into the AVI filter based on what I have read in the guides. I had the hc options set to Best.
I was not impressed with the quality at all. Is there something I missed?
Thanks,
Shawn
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AJP
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11. February 2006 @ 09:12 |
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Filters can some times make a movie look worse, depending on the movie. Also what didn't impress you?
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snoland
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11. February 2006 @ 09:34 |
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The movie is just not "clean" for lack of a better term. It is very blocked looking and just poor looking in general. I would have to say that using shrink with deep analysis and set to sharp would have produced a better image.
Maybe I will try it again without the filters. I used the filters because I read that combo was good for a large compression rate.
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Shawn
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AJP
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11. February 2006 @ 09:39 |
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What movie was it?
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snoland
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11. February 2006 @ 09:49 |
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I chose The Sweetest Thing. I chose this movie to use as a test, just because I know it is large with several menues and extras as well as a Full and Widescreen version.
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12. February 2006 @ 06:11 |
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I don't know about this particular title but w/ the type of special features I'm wondering if it included ilvu (interleaving) segments?
if you want to judge the output of pro make sure the source is not interleaving!
the other thing that strikes me as a possible problem is that the inclusion of both aspect ratio's you may have damaged one of the versions w/ setting's such as extra's reduction or half d1
if they where stored in different vts files one would have been considered extra's!
try viewing the other a.r.
also the use of filters is for older films mostly classics that were not shot using today's technology or for those that create there own movies from non dvd sources.
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snoland
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12. February 2006 @ 06:43 |
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I'm not sure about the interleaving, but I did not have it set to half d1 or to steal space from extras. I am not sure on how to check for the interleaving. With all of the software I have used prior, I never had to consider it so I never learned about it.
I am going to try it again with no filters in place, I just have been busy. I may let it run tonight when I go to bed.
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snoland
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12. February 2006 @ 17:56 |
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Well, I went ahead and got the Pro version since I am sure I will be happy with it in the long run. I just need to get familiar with it.
I am running The Sweetest Thing as I type this. I will check the results tomorrow.
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12. February 2006 @ 22:26 |
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I'm a "full disc" person. However, after I ripped the movie with DVDFAB Decrypter or DVD Decrypter into my hard drive, I processed the VIDEO_TS.IFO file through VobBlanker and get rid of those 2 annoying fbi warnings, plus I blank out any unwanted trailers/previews, extra scenes, etc. and only keep the good stuff i.e. deleted scene stuff. And load into DVD Rebuilder Pro + CCE SP and you know the rest is history.
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12. February 2006 @ 22:41 |
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I use Rebuilder Pro/CCE Basic and HC by Hanks. I always use Movie Only and if the credits are long I will use Remake Pro or Recode 2 to remove the credits prior to processing. I have done a few movies with the menus but it is a backup only...if I pack up the entire dvd I will use CloneDVD 2 and put the menus and movie on one disk and the the menus and special features/extras on a second disk...cheaper than DL and it doesn't require much compression and based on the movie both can be done with two disks.
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AJP
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12. February 2006 @ 22:47 |
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I try to always keep the menu if I can, not sure why, but I like them. Extras I have no desire to keep, as I don't watch them.
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12. February 2006 @ 22:53 |
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I do movie only. Further I keep only the language and the subtitles I prefer. So the compression is much more lower. Forgot to mention that I hate extras, warnings, making of, extra feautures and deleted scenes becouse: (a) Those things are still in the original. (b) The magic of the film itself is lost!
Fisrt I use dvddecrypter/dvdfab to save in file mode all the stuff. Then I use IFOEdit to extract movie only with the desired language and subtitles. Next step is to use dvdrebuilder/dvd shrink to comprees the movie. Finaly I use nero/clonedvd to burn the new compilation.
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14. February 2006 @ 12:26 |
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I'm the same as oracle and MovieDud. I like to first rip with DVD Decrypter or DVD Fab Decrypter in File Mode. Then open the files in DVD-RB Pro and select 'Movie Only' using CCE, or 'no compression' if it's smaller than a DVD-5. If the film has a DTS track, I will make a second DTS folder and output a second backup to that directory with DTS audio only selected. I like to make 2 backups if the film has DTS, one backup with the standard Dolby Digital, and the other backup with DTS. I prefer to use movie only, as it devotes the backup for the main feature film, and allocates more space and quality for the DVD-5. Once the ISO is made, then burn with ImgBurn.
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snoland
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14. February 2006 @ 14:45 |
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Junglecat, why not just make a disc with both audio sources if DTS is present? The Dolby doesn't add much, the DTS is the big file.
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14. February 2006 @ 15:00 |
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That's true snoland. The DTS track is very large compared to Dolby Digital. Sometimes you will be able to fit the DTS and Dolby Digital streams onto a disc with little compression. But I like to keep the compression at best, minimal... or none at all. If you can avoid compressing the movie altogether, you will be left with a near perfect backup, or an exact 1:1 copy.
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