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what is over heating?
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9. February 2006 @ 15:21 |
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i used speed fan and cant determine what exactly is Remote 1??
here is a screen shot of speed fan when i run it
My system keeps locking up and i think this may be the reason, sometimes i even get the blue screen of death
Any help would be great
I have a k8u-939 motherboard and AMD x2 3800+ CPU, dual core
and a GeForce FX5200 video card
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9. February 2006 @ 17:09 |
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my guess is that it is the heat sensor on your cpu check to make sure it is going if it isnt spinning dont use your computer untill its fixed
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9. February 2006 @ 17:36 |
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Remote sensors usually indicate your video card, and 54C sounds about right...though it's a tad warm. Might wanna break out the compressed air cans and chase away the dust bunnies. If it were the proc, the label will say CPU.
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10. February 2006 @ 11:41 |
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I changed the video cards heat sink to one with a fan and added artic silver 5 as the thermal contact material and i am still getting the same readings.
My guess is it is one of the CPU cores because it is a dual core processor.
Maybe i should apply artic silver 5 to the heat sink and see if this helps?
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10. February 2006 @ 12:20 |
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certainly wont hurt make sure that you remove the thermal tape from the bottom of the heat sink it is only designed for a single use and make sure that the fan is spining as one fan is showing as 0 Rpm
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10. February 2006 @ 12:34 |
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There is only one(1) Fan. It has dual core inside the same processor.
Thats what makes me wonder, why would 1 core be so hot and the other cool?
I thought maybe manufacturer defect, thermal paste not on good, or some type of compatibility issue with the motherboard and CPU.
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10. February 2006 @ 12:43 |
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Sorry missread your post thought you were running dual procesors I cant see how the two cores could have a 20c difference the sensor that shows over heating must be either the cpu or another device power unit maybe check your manual it may tell you which sensor is which I would still consider re doing the cpu heatsink and maybe adding a case fan if one is not present
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The_OGS
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10. February 2006 @ 13:09 |
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The x2 CPU will give 1 temp reading.
If it is not Remote 1 then it's what, Remote 0? (wouldn't be surprised) or is it Remote 2...
That program is not the best, who knows what the sensors are?
I have tried MotherboardMonitor and didn't like it either :^(
Try Everest Home Edition (a wonderful product) or, isn't there some kind of montoring software for you on Gigabyte's webpage?
There is excellent Asus and ABit software available for those motherboards.
Anyway that 54C is probably your CPU and if it's at idle, you're in trouble.
Re/re your CPU cooler and fan. Invest $10 bucks into a sophisticated CPU fan like a Vantec Thermoflow.
Arctic Silver 5, the best.
So basically, philraz said it all!
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10. February 2006 @ 13:26 |
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Quote:
and make sure that the fan is spining as one fan is showing as 0 Rpm
Fan2 is your first SYSFAN plug. Most people don't have a fan plugged into that. It runs from the motherboard, looks just like the plug for the CPU fan.
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10. February 2006 @ 13:31 |
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Thanks to everyone, it is the CPU that is overheating, found out soon after running everest(screen shot at bottom), that is one kick ass program if you know how to use it, I thought from everything that i read that AMD had fixed the problem of their CPU's from running hot, now i will be ordering a vapo chill heat sink
here is a link to it
http://epowerhousepc.com/product_info.php?products_id=608
I know i could probably get off cheaper but i want the best i can get w/o going to a loud fan or water cooled
I do have one last question
Should i take the thermal material of the vapo chill and use artic silver 5 instead?
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10. February 2006 @ 13:35 |
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Most importan question of all
Should i turn my computer off untill i get it running cooler?
That is idle speeds that are shown!!!!!
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10. February 2006 @ 14:52 |
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I wouldnt
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10. February 2006 @ 15:33 |
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@philraz, you woldnt turn the computer off till you got it running cooler?
Just for the info, i took the cpu off and when i did the cpu was stuck to the heat sink!
I carefully let the artic cleanser break down the old thermal paste/tape that came with the processor around all 4 sides and wiggled gently in each dirrection and then the processor popped off, should of had some padding where i was working.
Then i had to see if the processor still worked, so i used artic purifier, then i applied artic silver 5, and started up my computer. The temps gave me the same reading so i turned it off.
is the K8U-939 motherboard i have a K8 socket type?
i am asking b/c that heat sink i posted above said it was not compatible with Gigabyte K8 sockets.
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10. February 2006 @ 16:00 |
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10. February 2006 @ 18:11 |
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With stock cooling, my XP 3000+ used to run between 125F and 135F...never shut it down because of it.
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11. February 2006 @ 04:42 |
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@ Morph416, it might be ok to run it with the stock fan at those temps, but since i have spent so much money on the processor i want see lower temps, it is like insurance to me to have a good heat sink.
Now when i buy processor I will order a after market heat sink at the same time.
I changed my mind about the vapochill micro, it is to loud, it does not go below 27dba and the extreme performance goes up to ~40dba and high end goes up to ~39dba. Also i read that the vapo chill micro does not fit the Gigabyte socket K8 motherboards. I am not sure what socket mine is, but the zalman is quieter anyways.
I am going to order a zalman from newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835118119
Does not go above 27.5dba at full speed and on silent mode it is at 18dba, had a loud fan on last computer with variable speed control and i find the loud fans annoying.
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11. February 2006 @ 07:05 |
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philraz has told you
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your board is a socket 939
All Athlon dual-core CPUs are Socket939!
Any S939 cooler with a lot of copper in it and a large (120mm) fan should work great.
Dunno why CPU temp so high - your cooler must suck, maybe small slow fan...?
Coolers with relatively slow 120mm fans are available; these move a lot of air but are very quiet.
Pollution did you not 'see' the nice link to your mobo that philraz gave you?
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Plextor PX-755SA DVD (SATA)
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11. February 2006 @ 12:40 |
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@The_OGS, i saw the link he philraz gave me, and believe me i have looked at that page many times before. Yes my cooler sucks!!! It is AMD stock fan, 2 out of 2 stock fans i bought sucked! but as soon as i install a aftermarket heat sink everything is fine and i can even overclock it.
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12. February 2006 @ 17:16 |
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I bought a zalman, but not the one i mentioned earlier, it is the latest AMD model, the 9500 model, it was the only one that was completely compatible with my mother board no matter what else was installed as long as my case is wide enough, and from my measurements it is.
this is what i bought :)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835118223
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The_OGS
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14. February 2006 @ 15:10 |
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That's a sweet cooler - lots of copper, and nice slow 92mm fan :^)
I can get them for $70 bucks (Canadian).
You should be good to go!
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Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 @ 2.4GHz
2GB OCZ PC2-6400 Platinum XTC R2
ATI Radeon X1900XT 512MB
Enermax Liberty 620W
320GB/16MB WD, 150GB/16MB Raptor
Plextor PX-755SA DVD (SATA)
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Frank226
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19. February 2006 @ 09:28 |
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Hi,
I just bought a new Computer and i seem to have the same problem as you Pollution.
I got a
CPU: AMD 64 3700 Clawhammer socket 754
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-K8U
Fan: Fanner Tech AMD K8 cooler fan
I am running SpeedFan and everything is ok except Remote 1 witch run at 45C at Idle and climb up to 67C when it loads.
Right now I Got Ambient 1 at 28C
Remote 1 at 45C
Remote 2 at 27C
HD0 at 27C
I got a lot of fan
1 small at side
1 120 mm at the back
1 small front
1 CPU
2Power supplie fans
The air is not even hot in my PC
First i tougnt it was my video card but i changed it with my old Gforce 64M and the reading were the same.
second i unpluged my cpu fan to see if the reading of Remote 1 was changing and it was slowly raising up to 50 and so on so i think that Remote 1 is my Cpu Temperature Reading.
I removed my Cpu Heatsink to see i put too much paste on it and it was stuck on my cpu.
So should i changed my Cpu Heatsink and fan to something else...?
I see that you changed yours for a Zalman, was it difficult to install cause i think your cpu socket and mine look the same.
Thank!
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19. February 2006 @ 10:12 |
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The zalman 9500 was pretty easy to install, but you have to be very carefuly not put it on crooked b/c there is no guide to assist you in placing it exactly on the cpu. My CPU temp right now is 49C b/c i found out my case is a piece of shit and does not have good air flow.
My Cpu has not reached 60C for sure, usually below 55C when using both CPU's at 100%.
Remote 1 probably is CPU, was on mine and since we have the same mb i am very sure it is. But everest home is a better program to see temps.
download there.
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html
It says CPU for temp.
It's not just about how many fans you have, but how the air flows, i keep runnung smoke from a firework punk through my system to see how the airflows, and it is a piece of crap case i keep modifying. I dont know if running smoke from a punk is such a good idea.
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Frank226
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19. February 2006 @ 11:44 |
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Yes it is my processor, 47C Idle with Everest
Same reading in SpeedFan my processor cooking! it jump extremly fast to 65C and more when i play Civilization 4
I think my CPU fan is a Piece of ....
What would you recommend with that type of Motherboard?
There is a plastic mont around our CPU socket and i think we cant remove it is that right?
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19. February 2006 @ 17:25 |
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65C is way to high. I have never seen mine go above 60C with stock fan and heat sink.
I know i removed the plastic piece around my motherboard but it had plastic retention clips holding it, a real pain in the ass to get out and had to break them after disconneting from motherboard for them to come out of the black plastic cpu mount.
I have socket 939, i know the Zalman i bought, the 9500 model has other black cpu mount's for ther socket type's, and i think yours is one of them. Check at http://www.newegg.com
I really do not know what would be the best heat sink.
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Frank226
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21. February 2006 @ 06:14 |
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I bought the Zalman 9500 and some silver 5 paste.
I looking foward the delevery day! :)
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