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Do You SPLIT or COMPRESS?
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10. March 2006 @ 19:35 |
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Hi,
I was wondering do you guys split or compress? I seems to me that most of you Compress. But i want to make sure and give me your opioions. I have been Spliting for ever now. IS that just a waste of disce. Can you actually tell a difference when compressed to 50-60%?
thanks,
j
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10. March 2006 @ 19:45 |
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Compress, I quit splitting a long time ago.
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10. March 2006 @ 19:49 |
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compress for me too, actually, i don't think i have split ANY discs in my collection, but i also dabble quite extensively in DVD+R DL media too, so splitting was NEVER an option, FOR ME~ :)
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10. March 2006 @ 21:07 |
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No need for splitting if you use dvd-rb/cce or hc as the compression software. They can handle jobs requiring 50 - 60% compression better than any transcoding software available.
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10. March 2006 @ 22:18 |
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@BurningAs
I think from most of us u will find out that we compress rather than split... I find it just an easier and successful option...
I think people only split when we want to author some media files mainly...
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colw
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11. March 2006 @ 02:09 |
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Only Anals split - its a arsehole method.
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oneacer
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11. March 2006 @ 02:27 |
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I only split the marathon movies (3+ hrs), or ones say larger than 6200 or so, all others are on one disk.
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11. March 2006 @ 04:35 |
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Compress if less than 50%, split if more, contrary to colw...
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11. March 2006 @ 04:39 |
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Compress 'em all...I usually only backup the main movie anyway, whick decreases the compression substantially.
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11. March 2006 @ 17:09 |
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hi,
u guys don't give a damn about quality? Is it noticeable?
I only COMPRESS Bonus feature discs.
thanks,
j
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11. March 2006 @ 17:33 |
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I use dvd-rb pro/cce sp and can't see much quality loss if any on my 52" HDTV and thats even on 6.5 gb - 7 gb folders. I do of course strip and delete all the previews and warning screens with dvdremake pro.
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oneacer
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12. March 2006 @ 02:23 |
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I should also mention I take only the movie. I should also note that a lot of people are not aware that in Shrink, after you select re-author and select main movie only, you use the blue arrows and get rid of all the junk in the begining and also get rid of all the junk(casting, etc.) in the end. You will save a lot of needless compressing.
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12. March 2006 @ 06:30 |
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I'm with Mort on this..... I use DVD-RB with CCE...... and you can't get better than that. My long movies look great! and I have a large enough screen to know the difference!
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Berkner80
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15. March 2006 @ 16:40 |
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I have only split two movies T3 and Titanic. All of my other movies look pretty good compressed. Unless they are really long movies I would say you are wasting discs. I would try compressing a few and see what you think.
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omar1
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20. March 2006 @ 13:11 |
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I personally see that compressing more than 70% is very noticeable, at least to me.
If I want to back up the entire disc I'll just use Dual Layer DVD's now. If not, I'll just backup the movie title, which usually keeps me at 80% compression or better.
If the movie is of very high quality it'll take me back to 70%, but not more usually.
omar
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Trom
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20. March 2006 @ 13:50 |
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Having 2 discs per movie would really bug me out as would having to change the disc somewhere in the middle of a movie. Quality is utmost for me which is why I am another dvd-pro/cce disciple. I do movie only and can say the result is typically indistinguishable from the original.
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Bruce999
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20. March 2006 @ 14:27 |
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My answer: I split.
I also know I am in the minority.
I also do not believe that others who back up their own discs should necessarily split. They must decide this based on many factors, including the quality and size of their display, and their tolerance of disc-changing, and their own vision strengths and weaknesses, and their own desire to view "fidelity" in the medium.
However, unlike some others, I refuse to name-call those who prefer another method. I will not refer to those members as "anal," nor will I refer to their practices as "an arsehole method."
I split, because I noticed the difference, immediately. It should be noted that I am viewing on a larger display. (Does this make me "anal"?) It is a true high definition display, and it has been ISF calibrated by one of the better technicians who travels the country. On a 65 inch display, I can see clearly see the difference between a poorly mastered DVD and a beautifully mastered DVD. I rejoice when my son wants to view the first Spiderman DVD, or the Superbit version of "The Fifth Element." I quietly groan when he wants to pop in the second Spiderman DVD, though, as that is one of the more horrible transfers of recent years.
Most people do not give a damn about picture quality. And, most are sadly a bit ignorant on the subject. This allows manufacturers to sell their sets with awful factory settings (known as "torch mode" in the industry), so the sets will sell better. The manufacturers know that putting a strobe light on a set will grab your attention. They also know that setting the contrast at 100% has the same effect, and that red push will appeal to many, or that electric artifical blues will appeal to many, or that "green pull" works for many people, and that awful edge enhancement is a sure-fire way to sell a set. Deep down, they know that you will be viewing an awful picture once you get it home, under incandescent lighting. None of the above are "good things." However, the manufacturers have to survive, and this means sales.
The manufacturers also know that a properly calibrated CRT picture is still superior to even the best plasmas, and that it is still superior to even the best LCD units, and that it is still superior to even the best LCOS units, and that it is still superior to even the best DLP units. However, they also know that no one is buying CRT units, since there are other priorities higher than achieving the "best picture" for most consumers. Thus, Pioneer has discontinued all CRT-based units. Mitsubishi has done the same, beginning with the new models released this summer. Others have made similar announcements. Others made no announcement at all. They just quietly stopped. CRT allows for the best picture. CRT has lost the war, though.
Beta was a superior format to VHS. VHS won.
In the world of networking, Token Ring was a superior format to Ethernet. Ethernet won.
So it goes...
I split, when I back up a disc, because I do not mind taking a break during the run of a typical movie. My family enjoys the brief respite to use the facilities, and to grab a new liquid refreshment.
I split, because I know that the original DVD is already compressed. I do not want to make this any worse. Again, I can easily see the difference, if a DVD has been additionally compressed, and even my wife was able to see the difference on some of the experiments we tried early on.
I split, because I may be spoiled after three years of heavy viewing of high definition material.
However, I will not try to force my own preferences on others, nor will I stoop to juvenile name-calling of those who disagree.
With all due respect,
-Bruce
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20. March 2006 @ 14:41 |
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@Bruce
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talonman
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20. March 2006 @ 15:08 |
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you seem very knowledgeable Bruce about all the different types of technology. I am just wondering what type and size your tv is.
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Bruce999
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21. March 2006 @ 18:19 |
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Talonman:
>>>>Talonman wrote: "you seem very knowledgeable Bruce about all the different types of technology. I am just wondering what type and size your tv is." <<<<
The display I watch the most is a 65 inch Mitsubishi Diamond CRT-based television. The model is WS-65815.
-Bruce
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