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retroborg
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28. March 2006 @ 22:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello,
I?m interested in buying one of these two DVD Recorders, as they?re supposed to be the best in the market at the moment:

NEC ND4551
[url]http://www.nec.co.uk/ND4551.aspx[/url]

LG LG4166 Black
[url]https://www.24hours-open.net/index.php?a=shop&s=&h=1&u=16&uu=018&showartikel=000002621&hersteller=%&seite=1[/url]
http://www.plaisio.gr/IWCatProductPage.process?Section_Id=904&Nav...

I?m mainly interested in backing up my original CD/DVD SONY PS-1, PS-2, and PC-DVD/CD I ROM, Saturn, SEGA CD, NEC PCE Super CD and all my CD/DVD-ROM based games collection (Especially some of my rare original Japanese Shooters) and not so much for computer data, as I?ve solved capacity problems with large Hard Drives.

So which one is more fitting for the job?

Thanks in advance.
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berty642
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29. March 2006 @ 09:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi
Both will do a pretty decent job on backing up your ps2 games, i personally would choose the NEC becauseive always used them and the bit setting can be changed on them with hacked firmware, the link for the LG is dead so im not sure of the price of it but the price for the NEC seems pretty high, what country are you in?

retroborg
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29. March 2006 @ 10:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I live in Athens / Greece.
At my local computer store:
The NEC ND4551 (BULK) - White, goes for ?59.00 final price.
http://www.plaisio.gr/IWCatProductPage.process?Section_Id=904&Nav...

And the LG LG4166 Black - Bulk, goes for ? 60.00 final price.
http://www.plaisio.gr/IWCatProductPage.process?Section_Id=904&Nav...

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berty642
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29. March 2006 @ 11:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi
The coice is yours both do exactly as they say on the tin. I have no problems backing up PS2 games with my NEC or Pioneer always use good quality media and you will be fine.

retroborg
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29. March 2006 @ 12:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
By the way, what's the best burning software to use for PS-1/PS-2 CD/DVD backs ups?

Nero, Alcohol, CloneCD?

I've had some issues with Nero not including the audio tracks session for a RayStorm PSX CD image.
Back then, I used the basic Nero image-creating settings (3 years ago), on a Plextor 16X burner and ended up with a coaster with no audio.

However, the image was created successfully with CloneCD and worked perfectly when I burned it on CD.

I have a tendency in using Verbatim & TDK CD/DVDs, which I consider the best judging from experience, rather than technical facts.
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29. March 2006 @ 12:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Use DVD Decrypter,its the best.


retroborg
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29. March 2006 @ 13:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thank you for the recommendation, I will be sure to try it out.
retroborg
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29. March 2006 @ 13:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh, also I just noticed this Labelflash vs LightScribe DVD/CD Labeling review:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/02/14/labelflash_vs_lightscribe_...

Is this factor really that important to determine one?s choice?

And finally, which one of the two can easily be turned into a region free drive or may employ 'Riplock'?

Thanks in advance.
berty642
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29. March 2006 @ 20:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
In my experiance the NEC is the easiest to make region free and remove the rip lock. and as said before is the lighscribe feature really that important, the 4550 is maybe 15 euro cheaper than the 4551, it has the same speed features but without the labelflash.

retroborg
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29. March 2006 @ 22:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I?ve read that if you use RipLock, it will basically handicap your DVD!

Riplock:
When you insert a Video DVD it will run at 1x DVD speed.
Advantage: No or very low noise when you want to watch the DVD from the Drive.

Disadvantage: Ripping Video DVDs will take very long.


I just noticed, the NEC 4570A sure does Kick Ass, judging from specs!

http://www.nec.co.uk/ND4570.aspx

It?s faster than the NEC ND-4551A and even supports DVD-RAM (4551A does not)
It does not support LabelFlash Labelling System, but I?m not sure if it?s worth getting the more expensive NEC 4571, for that reason alone.

Thanks in advance.

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retroborg
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30. March 2006 @ 23:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just read an interesting article concerning the copy protection capability of the NEC ND-4551A:

[QUOTE]The ?Sheep Test?:
http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/266/11
In this case we are interested in the writer?s ability to backup/write weak sectors. Also called: ?Correct EFM encoding of regular bit-patterns?.
? No sheep: Can?t backup any Safedisc 2 versions without the help of software tricks
? 1 Sheep: Can backup Safedisc 2 up to version 2.4x without software tricks
? 2 Sheep: Can backup Safedisc 2, including version 2.5x
? 3 Sheep: Can write all possible weak sectors, few if any writers could do this. [/QUOTE]

It concludes that the NEC ND-4551A is a ?Two Sheep Burner?, but it however failed to write the Safedisc V2.90 and Sheep3 tests.

So, would this incapability, render this specific NEC 4551 Model and the later 4770 & 4571, not fitting enough for the job of backing up my protected PS-1/2, X-BOX & PC CD/DVD games successfully, which so happens to be my primary concern.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 30. March 2006 @ 23:14

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