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Is The End Near Because of New Technology
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10. May 2006 @ 20:33 |
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I just purchased AnyDVD and was hoping to use it indefinitly. Unfortunatly new technology seems to me to put an end to the good'ol days of making a backup of my own movies, putting the proverbial dagger into the heart of my new hobby. Am I being overly dramatic?
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10. May 2006 @ 21:38 |
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mark8766
I don't think that you have anything to worry about; at least not for the foreseeable future.
I would be surprised if home users make the tech leap to HD anytime soon. Just think, for them to play a Blu-ray or HD disc they are going to have to spend lots, and lots of money to first get a TV that's capable of displaying the new formats then they are going to have to pay and arm and one or two legs to get a player for the new media.
I don't even see pc users jumping on the bandwagon very quickly either. At least not while blank media start out at $20.00 each and because of copyright protection is such that they are unable to create a usable backup copy of a movie.
You will know when the time arrives. When it gets hard to find a movie in the current DVD format, then you can start to worry.
Eric
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10. May 2006 @ 22:00 |
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Mark I don't know how old you are, but look back to LP's and 8 track tapes. 8 track to cassette tape, cassette to cd or digital tape, "cd won." Cd to DVD look at history to learn the furure. BLU RAY and HD DVD will be common place in a couple of years. We will be exchanging techniques to burn the latest. It goes on and on...
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11. May 2006 @ 01:41 |
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To add to the others' comments: If the support and improvements implemented by the folks at SlySoft thus far are any indication, they will continue to keep pace with the new encryptions just fine... If AnyDVD was rendered useless tomorrow, I'd be unhappy, but I would still not hesitate to say that it was money well spent!!!
EDIT: In my opinion, AnyDVD has almost secured its "legendary" status along with the likes of such innovative programs as DVDDecrypter and DVDShrink!!! DVDRebuilder is right up there as well with its ease of integrating and simplifying the use of the THE BEST encoders available (to the consumer AND the professional)!!! There are FAR TOO MANY users that simply DO NOT understand the caliber of software that Rebuilder truly is!!! BUT nothing can compare to the Decrypter and Shrink as they are/were 100% FREE and loaded with options that even today's best PAID programs can't match!!!
Big "UPs" to the authors: LightningUK, dvdshrink, and JDobbs... Let us not forget DVD Jon, the father of DVD back-ups, author of the original DeCSS decryption utility...
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11. May 2006 @ 12:53 |
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I am not too worried, we can't seem to get rid of VHS and it has been around for over twenty years, they are still selling VHS players. HD will only take effect on TV in 2009 and even so people will be buying convertor boxes because who is going to replace all their TV's which are running fine. Besides prices are still to high, and people are more worried about energy, then HD/BluRay debate. Just my .02.
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11. May 2006 @ 14:02 |
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I agree DVD format will be around for a good many years. Nowadays people have TVs in every room. No one's going to replace them until they stop working. The real fear is what the next OS from MS will prevent. It'll be fun trying to keep one step ahead. The excitement is, as always, in the chase.
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11. May 2006 @ 14:41 |
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and there's one more important thing that no one touched upon..... HD-DVD and Blue-Ray will most likely be downward compatible with regular DVDs! It would be stupid not to have that function! Just like the DVD players and recorders now can also play CDs! It's my opinion that CDs, DVDs and the next step up will be still playable! Sooooo count on playing your DVDs for a longggggggggg time! I suspect even longer than CDs. and I still have an 8 track tape recorder, player, and tapes in the attic!!! I guess I can dust that off and give it a wirl again! should be cool to re-attach the equipment to my surround sound and see how the quality stands! LOL
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11. May 2006 @ 15:02 |
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All very good points! You are and always will be my trusted allies! Thanks.
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12. May 2006 @ 06:40 |
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Well, as far as VHS is concerned, 2006 will be the last year for VHS format, then is no more new movie releases on VHS. As far as HD-DVD or Blu-ray, it?s still gonna be good wile before neither really pick?s up..
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13. May 2006 @ 01:45 |
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Dvd will still be around for a while. Look at the prices for 25 gb blank blue-ray media and the burners:
http://supermediastore.com/blue-ray-blu-ray-dvd-media-recorder.html
1x-2x speed burning on a blank 25 gb disc? Way too long in my book.
It'll be a long time before us poor folk will be able to afford the equipment for backing up onto blue-ray.
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13. May 2006 @ 04:57 |
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Why the world doesn't need High Def. DVDs (at least now)
Posted by Seán Byrne on 12 May 2006 - 13:35 - Source: The New York Times
Even though HD DVD has already hit the store shelves in April, platinumsword pointed out on our forum that the New York Times has published an article on why we don't need high definition DVDs, at least at this time. To start with, the vast majority of people are happy with the picture quality of DVD, its sound tracks and other bonus features. DVD players can be bought for the price of a few movies, there is a vast catalogue to choose from and 82% of American homes have a DVD player.
The first issue is the format war between Blu-ray and HD DVD. Currently HD DVD has the lead with players and titles already on the shelves, pricing half that of the upcoming Blu-ray players and backing from big companies such as Microsoft and Universal studios. While Blu-ray is not expected to launch until the end of June, it may have the lead with far more movie studios backing it, the discs have greater capacity and Sony's upcoming game console is a native Blu-ray player. At present, there is a risk of buying something what the article calls "the Betamax of the new millennium".
Early adopters of HD DVD already face issues with Toshiba's HD-A1 HD DVD player ? Very pricey at $500, bulky in size like an old VCR, takes over a minute to power up, never mind 45 seconds to load a disc and finally not being able to skip the tedious FBI warning after that! Even when the players come down in price, the benefit of high definition is very small with screen sizes of under around 35" as many consumers don't notice any real improvement on smaller displays and some need to see DVD and HD DVD side by side with large screens to actually see the benefit. Basically, the improvement is nothing like the difference between VHS and DVD. Finally, consumers will need to have a HDCP compliant HDTV set to view their discs in high definition should the studios finally decide to enact the ICT constraint on discs.
Over all, though, the A1 does deliver the spectacular picture and sound promised by Toshiba. Should you buy one, then?
Not unless you're an early-adopter masochist with money to burn.
Reason 1: The average person can see the difference in picture quality, but only on a big, high-def screen, preferably side by side with a standard DVD signal. The leap forward is nowhere as great as it was from, say, VHS to DVD.
Reason 2: For a brand-new technology, the A1 is a reasonably priced razor ? but it's got a serious blade shortage. Only 20 will be available by the end of this month, priced at $20 to $40, and only a couple of hundred are expected by year's end. (Tens of thousands are available in the traditional DVD format.)
Reason 3 (and this is the big one): You could be placing a very big bet on the wrong horse.
With such a small selection of HD DVD discs on the market at this time, the best thing to do is wait until the variety reaches a decent level. By that time, there is a good chance the player?s pricing will be a small fraction of the current pricing, have improved dramatically (particularly their performance) and possibly more compact than the current beasts. By that stage, it may even be possible to tell which format is leading the market.
On the other hand, these competing formats could end up turning out like the Super Audio CD vs DVD-Audio war, where neither format has succeed in taking over the compact disc format, never mind getting anywhere near sales of Audio CDs! One other thing to note is that even though both these high definition audio disc formats have been out for around six years now, the discs and players are still fairly expensive and most DVD players and Hi-Fi systems cannot play either format.
http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/13411
Blu-ray claims it's poised to win DVD format battle
Posted by Dan Bell on 12 May 2006 - 03:43 - Source: MacWorld
Samsung is scheduled to deliver the first Blu-ray player next month. Already the Blu-ray Disc Association is confident that the battle is now won or will be presently. They said if you want to know who is going to win the war, you merely need to look at who is supporting what!
?We have just about everybody in the consumer electronics industry supporting Blu-ray at this point,? Andy Parsons, senior vice president of product development for Pioneer, told Macworld. ?These are all the brands that are associated with new technologies like Sony, Panasonic, Philips, Pioneer, LG, Samsung and others.?
Supporters of the HD-DVD format include Toshiba, NEC, Intel and Microsoft, but Parsons said when it comes to getting players into peoples homes Blu-ray has the power of the consumer electronics companies behind them.
Looking at what will ultimately drive adoption of a particular format, Parsons says the ?killer app? for this format battle will be no different than in the past ? content.
?The killer app for this technology is high-definition motion picture distribution ? that is the underlying premise that drives everything else,? said Parsons.
Mr. Parsons believes Blu-ray?s larger capacity won?t be a factor at first. He thinks this will be realised later, once IT and other computing applications come into play. He firmly believes that consumers will look at both the storage advantage of Blu-ray and then couple it with all the content that Blu-ray can offer compared to HD-DVD. For this reason, he thinks Blu-ray will win in the end
http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/13409
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13. May 2006 @ 05:16 |
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New Technology costs enough to end it all for me!!!!!!
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13. May 2006 @ 06:44 |
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I agree with Ireland. When dvd's first came out they were still cheap. I think thats the reason all of the old diehard vhs users jumped boat so quickly. Plus unless you have larger than a 42in tv I dont see the need. I think dvd is around for along time to come.
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13. May 2006 @ 20:47 |
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When I bought my first DVD player (in 1997 or 1998, I don't recall the exact date), it cost $800. It's a sturdy Toshiba that I still have and I use it to test +R media. At that time I wanted a plasma big screen, but my wife threatened to divorce me if I bought it (it was only $17,000).
The prices of Blu-ray and HD DVD equipment and media will drop eventually; these technologies will improve, and someone will develop a way to back-up the new media. So, in 3 or 5 or 7 or 10 years we'll be here discussing how to make the perfect copy of this or that movie.
I'm almost certain that by that time SlySoft will have released AnyBluRay or AnyHDDVD.
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13. May 2006 @ 21:08 |
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Blue Ray & HD DVD? Quote:
I'll cross that Bridge when I get to it
No Worries.
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15. May 2006 @ 05:42 |
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