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Question the useage of rebuilder
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brysonj
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20. May 2006 @ 17:42 |
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Hello everyone,
I have been using anydvd along side clone dvd 2. The problem i am facing with a movie called "MUNICH" is the compression. I am at 56 percent i like to be a lot higher. I have heard of a program called rebuilder which people here swear by. i have never used it and know nothing about it. Is there anything else besides rebuilder i need to download. any help or input would really be appreaciated thank you
John Bryson
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20. May 2006 @ 17:52 |
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You can use the free version of Rebuilder along with the free encoders included which are HCEnc and AutoQMatEnc both are good here is a thread that will show you the comparison
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/343299
You can also use ProCoder2 Enc and CCE but both of these programs are pay. I have CCE Basic and it is 60.00. Available from Visible Light.
You will need a free program called AviSynth which must be installed prior to installation of Rebuilder, also ProCoder2 and CCE should be installed prior to RB installation.
http://www.avisynth.org/
Here is a guide on setup of the program and gives an excellent overview.
http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=55302
DVD Rebuilder is the best freeware program I know for doing high compression movies.
http://dvd-rb.dvd2go.org/
The freeware version will not do as much as the pro version i.e. not as much editing capabilities but you can use it and see how good the quality is. However be prepared to invest some time in your backup, the encoding process can sometimes take a couple of hours, vs. transcoding programs which are much faster.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 20. May 2006 @ 17:53
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20. May 2006 @ 18:29 |
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and what Arniebear was implying was DVDRebuilder is worth the extra time to encode.... the quality is wayyyyyyyyyyy better than transcoders!
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BlinkN
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20. May 2006 @ 21:38 |
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I can vouch for DVD-Rebuilder (using pro version). It's pretty good when it comes to quality. This is my primary program for encoding DVD videos.
Everything arniebear pointed out to you, should get you started.
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pazzini
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21. May 2006 @ 06:57 |
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You could just split the movie into 2 discs using clonedvd2 that way you get an exact copy of the original.
Regarding dvd rebuilder, pro is the way to go but only with CCE as it gives better results.IMO
Hanks encoder(HCEnc) is free and very good but not as good as CCE IMO but comes very close.
Use the installer version as it will install everything you need to get started.
http://dvd-rb.dvd2go.org/modules.php?name=downloads&d_op=viewdown...
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 21. May 2006 @ 07:21
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21. May 2006 @ 14:48 |
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just to let you know Pazzini, I used to think like you did about CCE.... which is ok.... CCE is a great encoder..... but have you tried ProCoder2? Procoder2 is a great encoder that equals CCE but is a little slower. The colors are richer and brighter in comparison (just my 2 cents) but I stick with CCE only because it's faster than Procoder2 and the quality is fine! So just don't put the blinders on a different encoder till you run some tests on it! Procoder2 is great! I use it for the BETTER DVDs that I want to keep quality at it's premium. Just my opinion. I thank Mort and L8ter for opening my eyes to another encoder other than CCE! I use both of them!
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BlinkN
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21. May 2006 @ 19:32 |
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I've been using procoder2 as well. It looks very good but it does take a long time to encode a movie (8 hours on my end). I'm probably going to try AutoQMatEnc one of these times to see for myself.
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pazzini
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21. May 2006 @ 23:37 |
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@IHoe
Hi:)
I have tried procoder 2 but I prefered CCE. (after tests I did)
Also I go to doom9&DVF where UncasMS has also done alot of quality tests involving several encoders.
http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?p=388419#post388419
I am not going to get into a debate as to which encoder is better as everyone will have there own prefrence, CCE just happens to be mine:)
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 22. May 2006 @ 01:07
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Gnomex
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22. May 2006 @ 04:15 |
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I have used procoder 2. The output colors are rich and the image is very sharp. However, it took close to 8 hours to process a episodic DVD on the PC. I use CCE basic for most backups needing attention.
Disclaimer: Any errors in spelling, tact, or fact are transmission errors.
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pazzini
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23. May 2006 @ 07:32 |
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@ gnomex
8 hours is a very long time...What are your pc specs??
I just used procoder 2 for a film called Last Holiday R1 which is 111 minutes long it took me 126 minutes (phase 2) in total it took me 145 minutes.
I used mastering quality.
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Jigen
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24. May 2006 @ 08:49 |
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I backed up Munich using rebuilder and the result was great. Far better than transcoding, as mentioned above. Definitely a program worth buying.
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pazzini
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24. May 2006 @ 08:56 |
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@ Jigen
I agree with you completely dvd-rebuilder with it's encoders is far superior to any transcoding programe, like clonedvd2 or shrink etc,etc...But one thing you can not deny that if you have a really long film say like 3 hours+ you will get much better quality by splitting the movie onto two discs with clonedvd2 as you will retain a 1:1 copy of the movie because no transcoder would be needed.
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24. May 2006 @ 10:17 |
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@pazzini
Splitting and DL are always the best option for backing up, but if you are lazy like me, lol, changing disks is too much effort. So RB is the best way to go :)
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pazzini
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24. May 2006 @ 11:21 |
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@arniebear
lol, I completely agree with you. DL media prices are dropping all the time but why pay out for a DL disc when rebuilder will do a superb job for you with a SL disc.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 27. May 2006 @ 11:11
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Trom
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27. May 2006 @ 08:33 |
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Regarding which encoder is better eith DVD-RB Pro CCE or Procoder2 I have found it can also depend on the movie. Movies like Robot(cartoon type) are better with Procoder2 but for normal run of the mill movies with little or no special effects I prefer CCE. I think the results from CCE are most like the original DVD.
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pazzini
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29. May 2006 @ 11:45 |
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I find procoder2 excellent for low bitrate movies.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 29. May 2006 @ 15:16
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Gnomex
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5. June 2006 @ 07:50 |
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@pazzini ,
The specs on my PC are:
P4 2.0 GHZ
512 RAM DDR 233
XP Pro
I have backed up 2 titles using Procoder 2. The average times are around 8 hours each. In contrast CCE Basic takes 3.5 - 4 hours on average per backup.
The box is need of replacement with something less dated. However, I am waiting to see where the new processors go over the next 6 months.
Disclaimer: Any errors in spelling, tact, or fact are transmission errors.
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