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rescuedog
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26. June 2006 @ 13:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
While burning a backup of a dvd, both of my drives crashed. My burner is no longer able to play any movies. My CD-ROM can still read data, but doesn't recognize any movies. Windows Media Player will not play any movies.

I've had no problems burning backups until now. Does anyone know if newer dvds are embedded with special codes that will disable your system if you try to burn a backup?
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26. June 2006 @ 14:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No. Highly unlikely....


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rescuedog
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26. June 2006 @ 14:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Someone told me that the PC Games industry does this, and now I'm wondering if it's being done with dvd's. Then again, this was just heresay ...... I still can't figure out why both of my drives crashed nor why my system cannot play any movies whatsoever, immediately after I attempted to burn a backup. As I mentioned, I've had no problems in the past and I didn't do anything to my system which led me to conclude that perhaps it might've been caused by the dvd.
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27. June 2006 @ 10:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I wouldn't think that is what crashed your system. Although, there was talk about 2 years ago about self-destructing DVD's.

What DVD was you trying to backup?

pieman
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27. June 2006 @ 10:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sounds like a conflict or similar.try removing your optical drives from device manager,and then restarting.failing that, try system restore,and the usual uninstall your software/reinstall.Dont forget to defrag.

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27. June 2006 @ 13:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i really hope that it's illegal to create a dvd with sabotaging capabilites. two wrongs don't make a write (haha get it? write)

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27. June 2006 @ 14:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
:))

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rescuedog
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28. June 2006 @ 10:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thank you for replying ... this concerned me when I heard rumors that this technology was already used in the gaming industry ? and thought that the dvd industry is following suit. I can?t afford to have my system crash every 6 months. With newer technologies being employed, I just wondered if the same thing is happening in the dvd industry???..

As a side note, my spanking new Panasonic HD DVD recorder is a "One Time Only Recording" system. (It wasn?t cheap!). Had I known this, I wouldn?t have purchased it. (It was in very fine print, lodged in their 100pg manual). I was informed by the Panasonic people that their engineers need to conform to these standards to comply with the law. We should expect to see the same from other manufactures. The new technology is designed to prevent people from making more than one copy of a tv show by embedding a code emitted from the TV station. If I was to schedule a recording to the HD so that I can watch a TV program at a later date, I can only watch it ? but will not be able to make a back-up dvd copy of it. Why? When the show is ?recorded? on to the HD, that counts as ?ONE? recording. I?m not sure how many TV stations have started to use this technology already. This approach SUCKS and does me no good. I travel and like to take dvd?s of programs that I?ve missed, to watch on my laptop. I may not be able to do this later on. ? As for my system? Well, it crashed and got worse. I couldn?t even defrag it. My burner is shot ? None of my media players will allow me to watch a movie and the system kept freezing. Uninstalling software didn?t work and a Restore created more problems.
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28. June 2006 @ 12:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hiya...looks like a reinstall then.But i would definately do a disk check now, just to make sure your hard drive is ok.(right click on drive in my computer-properties-tools-error checking-tick both boxes-check now.If thats ok,you say your burner is shot? replace and reformat/reinstall.But theres definately no 'destructo discs' out there.....yet!!good luck.

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rescuedog
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28. June 2006 @ 17:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Pieman ..... THANK YOU! Your suggestion worked! I can't believe this simple process was all that was needed to make it work again. I can now play a dvd movie on my computer.

In hindsight, I believe the "crash" may have been caused when my disk space was low during the last burning process. The "paranoia, conspiracy theorist" in me thought otherwise.(though it's still a good subject to ponder about).

I will remember not to take shortcuts of just defragmenting, but to do a disk check as part of my maintenance program. Thanks again!
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28. June 2006 @ 17:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No, highly unlikely because some DVDs encourage you to use to use on the computer! Be it DVD-ROM features, advertising other DVDs, etc. IMO, DVDs will never be discouraged for use on the Computer. Now CDs, on the other hand...

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29. June 2006 @ 13:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
rescuedog, glad it worked.you might consider defragging on a regular basis now, i do mine once every 2 or 3 days.Try diskeeper (they do a 30 day free trial) its soooo much quicker than the windows tool, and defrags where others dont reach.Its worth a try.Good luck

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pieman
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29. June 2006 @ 13:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
and i do a disc check every week!!

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rescuedog
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29. June 2006 @ 13:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I agree .... with the volumes of portable dvd players being sold today, perhaps it's not the dvd's themselves that's a concern but rather the recording/burning software equipments used to back them up that we should be careful about.
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29. June 2006 @ 15:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There have been problems encountered by those who click to install the 'pop-up' software that appears when you first insert the DVD. No telling what that software might include, and if you click to okay it you're of course asking for trouble...
But about the NTFS drives - yes a diskcheck should be done at least 1/month! Buddy says 1/week, LoL, he's like me ;^)
And certainly a diskcheck MUST be done before defragging any drive.
The top tick box (automatically fix errors) is important, whereas you needn't check the whole drive for bad clusters every time.
You can check in Event Viewer after the reboot, and see what action was performed.
You can also use Page Defrag
http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/PageDefrag.html
to defrag your unmovable system and swap files (a most useful tool).
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rescuedog
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29. June 2006 @ 17:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for suggesting Diskeeper and Page Defrag - If there's anything that can do the same job quicker and more thoroughly, I'm willing to take a stab at it.

Any suggestions on spywares? I'm using Spybot ad Adware Alert - but I'm not so sure these are adequate enough. When my system "crashed" a year ago, it was due to a malicious spyware that my system couldn't block in time.
Thanks again
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pieman
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30. June 2006 @ 09:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i use both Spybot and adaware, and pc cillin av/fw at the moment.After a viral infection, i reformat and reinstall or use ghost from a clean installation.However, when using p2p i use peerguardian which acts as a specific firewall to certain probing authorities and seems to block an awful amont of crap.However, you cant beat a reugular defrag/disc check, malware and virus scan.Apart from doing that, you might as well unplug the bugger!!!!

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