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How to edit out "hot" scenes from a movie?
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johnnyemh
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24. July 2006 @ 10:59 |
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Hi guys:
I don't know if I am in the right place. Any way, I want to back up some of my DVDs that has a couple of "hot scenes," but I want this back ups to be without those "scenes" in such a way that they could be viewed by my children. What kind of software do I need to use (prefered a free one) in order to edit out those parts that they don't need to see at their age? I know hot to back them up using DVDshrink and decrypter. I'll be thankful for any help in this regard.
:>)
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24. July 2006 @ 11:45 |
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Womble MPEG Video Wizard, Ulead MovieFactory/Studio are but two. The former seems to work better. You basically will have to completely reauthor the movie minus the offensive scenes.
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-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
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24. July 2006 @ 13:52 |
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dont let them watch them! whats the point of ruining the movie? like that! if they are not pg-13 dont let em watch em right or wrong
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Noqoilpi
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25. July 2006 @ 02:08 |
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Use Shrink Re-author - Select the movie twice. Use the set Start/End frames. End the first before the scene and start the second after the scene.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 25. July 2006 @ 02:09
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jessica6
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26. July 2006 @ 16:51 |
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I don't know any good free editors but TMPGEnc DVD authoring 2.0 works great and they have a free trial. but i think it ultimately cost about $90.00. The cool thing though is that it does not have to encode the whole movie after editing which makes it a million times faster. The interface is smooth as well. Worth the money i think if you edit dvd files with some regularity. good luck
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27. July 2006 @ 12:51 |
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If thats your goal this way could work but its not free Pinnacle 10.5 with breakout box or pci card play the movie through pinnacle save to your hard drive edit it through pinnacle I have done it this way for football games took out the ads and parts I did not want. It may not be the right way but it will work.
RBROCK
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vwsport80
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27. July 2006 @ 14:40 |
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I agree with Noqoilpi, Shrink can do and it's free. Check my sig if you don't have it yet.
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27. July 2006 @ 16:01 |
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vwsport80 i use zoomtown not fuse net ha ha
RBROCK
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collarme
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29. July 2006 @ 08:23 |
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Try a program called VideoReDo- frame accurate editing with a 30 day trial. Save your DVD to disk, import the VOBs in VideoReDo, edit out the scenes and save as elementary streams (or mpeg) to import in your DVD authoring software to create your new 'edited' DVD. No re-encoding required.
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johnnyemh
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29. July 2006 @ 13:06 |
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Hi guys:
Thanks to everybody for their advices and inputs, they are very helpful. I am downloading most of the programs advised to see how they work. Thanks again.
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movies27
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29. July 2006 @ 18:26 |
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I agree with Noqoilpi..i do it that way all the time.
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Noqoilpi
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1. August 2006 @ 11:56 |
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vwsport80
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1. August 2006 @ 12:10 |
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Tis' true, I can't see it. It's just a little fun. But you never really know how much other people can see on the other end, now do you? :)
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1. August 2006 @ 12:39 |
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If you could see you would see this Big White Moon ha ha
RBROCK
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vwsport80
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1. August 2006 @ 12:54 |
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LMFAO! It must be a lunar eclipse, it's all dark in the middle! LOL!
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1. August 2006 @ 13:22 |
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Hey Hey, let get back to helping Johnnyemh we forgot about him !
RBROCK
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vwsport80
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1. August 2006 @ 13:35 |
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Yeah, sorry johnnyemh, do you think you found a program that will work?
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johnnyemh
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18. August 2006 @ 10:31 |
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Hi guys again and thanks for the help:
I have a couple of questions:
1)Directed to Noqoilpi or anybody that knows about it.
Noqoilpi, you said:
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Use Shrink Re-author - Select the movie twice. Use the set Start/End frames. End the first before the scene and start the second after the scene.
I tried this procedure, but I end up with to separete entities. They have to be in separated folders (they have IFO and BUP files with the same name, besides those files tell the player-program to read from where to where,....and stop...I think), and when the first part ends, I have to begin manually the second part. What will be the procedure to put them back together, as they were in the first place?
This question is for vwsport80, and the same as above.
vwsport80, you are showing the addresses to get these programs:
DVDFab Decrypter and VOBlanker. What is spetial about them?
Thanks guys again. By the way, I had the problem of not been able to back up most of the Disney DVDs. After I ripped them with Decrypter, still DVDShrink was unable to read the files. There is this little program which fixes that particular problem. It is called: FixVTS-1.403 (fixes movies that don?t open with DVDShrink). I hope this helps somebody.
Takecare guys :>)
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vwsport80
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21. August 2006 @ 06:35 |
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Hey yourself! To your first question, directed at Noqoilpi, it sounds more complicated than it's supposed to be. All you have to do is rip the movie to your HDD, open shirnk, open the files, click re-author, then click the start/stop button, choose where you want to stop, then click the start/stop and choose where you want to start again, the click back-up when you're ready. FYI the start/stop button may be a pair of scissors. This is from memory and I'm at work, so if some one sees a step I missed, please speak up.
Next, the programs in my sig, what makes them so special is that you can back up any movie (including any new release with new encryption) with them, and they're all FREE! DVDFab is a ripper and decrypter, kind of like DVD Decrypter but DVDFab is still updated (unlike DVD Decrypter). So you use DVDFab to rip to your HDD. It takes care of most encryptions. If not, then VOBlanker will do the rest (stucture problems, bad vobs, etc.) So, I run most movies through VOBlanker just to make sure. You just open the program, select your input (browse to the movie you just ripped with DVDFab), select your output (a different folder), click "proc all" on the right side, then click "process." Note: VOBlanker can't handle muti-angle movies. Then just open shrink, open the new files that VOBlanker made, pick what you want (whole disk, movie only, etc.) and click back-up. I like to select "make ISO and burn with DVD Decrypter." Then all the programs you're using are free.
Hope this helps (and people can understand it). Good luck.
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johnnyemh
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21. August 2006 @ 16:46 |
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Hi guys:
Thanks vwsport80 for the information. I'll put that in practice and I'll let you know how good of a professor you are :>)
Thanks again
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vwsport80
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22. August 2006 @ 06:04 |
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I don't know about a professor, but I hope it helps. Learn and teach. Let us know how you get along.
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johnnyemh
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7. September 2006 @ 11:01 |
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Hi guys:
Last time I was here, I was in a hurry so I didn?t really read the last message, and only copy it to a word document to read it later at home. Then I realized that I was misunderstood. Maybe I was not very clear in my explanation above, or my English is not as good as I thought it was. I had already done the procedure described by both Noqoilpi and vwsport80 ?kind of, ?although vwsport80 description I think is not quite fisable:
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??click re-author, then click the start/stop button, choose where you want to stop, then click the start/stop and choose where you want to start again, then click back-up ??
? This to me suggest that you can ?STOP? the movie and then ?START? where you want to continue, in other words, ?editing-out in the procedure the part of the movie that you do not want. But I think accordingly with my observations, DVDShrink works COMPLETELY the opposite way: FIRST you have to ?START? the portion of the movie that you want to keep ?they give you the beginning frame? then they allow you to choose the ending frame OF THE PART OF THE MOVIE THAT YOU WANT TO KEEP (I repeat). So, in order to editing-out 1 part of the movie, you have to do 2 times the procedure.
Trying to describe the problem that I encounter I am going to be a little more explicit in applying the above described.
Let?s suppose the movie which I will call M is the one from which I want to carve out some sequence. Let?s assume that the movie M is composed of three parts:
M = M1 + Mo + M2, where Mo is the part that I want to edit-out. So at the end what I want is M? = M1 + M2 (where M? is the original movie M already with the part Mo edited-out).
To process this with DVDShrink, 1st I have to create a folder where the edited part are going to be backed up. Then I open DVDShrink, and after the step called ?Analyze,? I click in ?reauthoring? and copy the main movie to the left side of DVDShrink window, then I click on the button marked with the scissors (cut). In this step, the cut function (which opens a little window with two sliders and a screen) allows you to keep the part of the movie which is marked by a beginning frame (which you choose moving the upper slider and you check this watching the little screen underneath the slider), and an ending frame, (same procedure, only in the lower slider).
So, since I do not want any change at the beginning of the movie, I choose M1 to begin with the 1st frame of the movie (therefore the ?start,? slider remains at the beginning of the slot without been touched) and end 1 frame before the Mo (the part that I want to edit out) part of the movie begins (here I choose the frame sliding the lower slider). Then I click OK and immediately you see that the size of the item that is left where the movie was, diminishes its size (in Mb). Finally you have to ?back it up? or saved in a folder. I?ll called that folder ?Movie-beginning? and save M1 there.
Second step: Now, I follow same procedure for M2, only choosing the beginning of M2 with the frame following the last frame of Mo (here I used the upper slider), and since I do not want any changes at the end of the movie, I choose the last frame of M2 the same as the one of M (the lower slider at the end of the lower slot). After clicking OK, again you see that the size of the file changes to a smaller number (which is logical).
Now you have your M2 which you have to save or back up. HERE COMES THE PROBLEM:
a) Every time that you ?cut? for keeps, any sequence from any movie (doesn?t matter the size, this could be 1 minute or even seconds), at the time of backing it up, the following files are created minimally:
VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_1.VOB
And and in many cases:
VIDEO_TS.VOB, too (I think).
So, when I backed up the M1 part, those 5 files (with exactly those same names) were created. When I tried to back up M2, (REMEMBER?.FILES WITH EXACTLY THE SAME NAMES ARE GOING TO BE CREATED) clearly I had a problem. When I tried to save them to the same folder ( ?Movie-beginning? ), a sign advised me: ?Files already exist in this folder, do you want them to be erased?? (what it means is to erase them and replace them with files created with the same names but for the M2 part). If you say YES, there it goes. You lost M1, and in their place the files for M2 are created. If you say ?NO,? then nothing happens. M1 remains in that folder, but you cannot backup M2. In order to backup M2 without loosing M1, you have to create other folder, a different one (with a different name).
To save M2 I created other folder which I called: ?Movie-ending,? where I saved the files that make-up M2 (having those files the same names as the ones of M1, I repeat, although you can see that they are different since when you click in each set; you will see the beginning or the end of the movie -depending in which set you click-in). Obviously this 2 parts behave as they would be separate entities (as they would be 2 separate movies, ?and I tried this, ?when the end part of M1 is shown ?in movieplayer or any other program? that?s it. It doesn?t go any further that the end of M1, it does not engage M2 by any chance. If you want to see M2 you have to started again as it would be a different movie -click in one of its VOB files (I even tried to put both folders in the same subfolder, ?vain hope). So it is clear to me that to put them both in a DVD would be a waste of a DVD.
Now the question is: How can I put this 2 separate entities together (M1 & M2) in such a way that they would behave as what it was intended: AS ONE MOVIE?
You have to understand ?I know that most of you know this? that the items of both parts (M1 & M2) cannot coexist in the same folder since both have files with the same name (since WINDOWS does not allow the coexistence of two files with the same name in the same folder). Besides there is the fact that for what I understand; the files VIDEO_TS.BUP, & VIDEO_TS.IFO define the beginning and the end of the sequence/movie (so 1 movie can have only one of each of these files, and as they are from M1 & M2, we have 2 of each), so this dismisses the possibility of renaming the files in some of a ?clever? way.
I?ll will be very grateful if somebody give me a solution for this ?little? problem.
Thanks and cheers:>)
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vwsport80
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7. September 2006 @ 12:38 |
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Okay, once you drag the movie into the left side and click the start/stop button, put the stop where you want it (giving you M1). Next, drag the movie over again (it should call it main movie 1, I think) highlight the part you just drug over, click start/stop, put start where you want it (giving you M2). Click back up. This is off memory, if it won't let you pull it over twice, just copy the entire movie into 2 folders. After you do M1, click on the drop down above the movie parts available and choose the other folder, drag over the movie. If this still doesn't help there are many guides on how to use Shrink on AD, just do a search for them. Let us know how you get along. Good luck.
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7. September 2006 @ 12:59 |
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Here's a dunb way if you had a stand alone DVDR burners you could start stop and fast foward the disc i know it sounds dumb but it should be easy i've not read on the post yet a clear and easy way (maybe I wrong)
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7. September 2006 @ 19:18 |
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If his movies are commercial then they'll probably have Macrovision protection which will prevent dubbing or make it look like garbage.
-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
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