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P2P2P
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1. August 2006 @ 02:51 |
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I'm not getting my hopes up on this but here goes.
I got a DVD from a friend (Don't worry, it's a Home movie) and it's the only copy (He wiped it from HDD after burning it). The problem is he seems to have burned almost beyond the capacity of the media. I've tried to make some copies for relations and it'll read/copy the first 4 Gig vobs but the 5 VOB (nearly 400Mb) won't copy. It could be dirty/damaged disc but it looks fine and a properies check shows about 4.5 Gb which is why I thought he may have burned beyond capacity, some how.
It will play to the end on a stand alone player but I need to make copies.
I've tried Shrink to see if it will smooth over problem area.
I've tried VOB Blanker as I've heard it can ignore errors.
I've tried Nero's Copy, recode, and make movie telling it to ignore errors.
Is there anything else out there that can smooth over defects which I could cut out later?
Any ideas appreciated !
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1. August 2006 @ 05:32 |
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first off the disk is not overburned..... it's fine..... the disk itself might be of low quality that burning to the outer edge might cause problems that you are having....
1. it's on a DVD5 so it should be able to copy not using a transcoder or other programs that help with encryptions are not nessissary! Shrink, Voblanker, Recode are not needed to copy.
2. Nero copy DVD should be all you need. You can use Nero Express or Nero Burning Rom to do the job.
it's already on a DVD5 (single sided, blank DVD which holds 4.7G). Use DVDDecrypter ISO read.... ISO write. if you don't have DVDDecrypter then get it here, it's free:
http://fileforum.betanews.com/download/DVD_Decrypter/1011845169/1
you are making a copy of a copy... so open up DVDDecrypter..... set your Source drive to where the disk is (1). Hit MODE (2) and hit ISO Read(3).... then hit the DISK TO HARD DRIVE (4). this will write the files to the hard drive under the lable folder!
Just do the same thing to write to disk after it completes the job. Should only take you about 15mins or so to write to hard drive. Then about the same time to write to disk. this is easy.
to write to disk:
1. set source (which is your folder where it wrote the files to).
2. Hit MODE
3. Hit ISO WRITE
4. Hit HARD DRIVE TO DISK
that's it. good luck. should work just fine. let me know how you did.
oh make sure you put a blank DVD in your writer and the destination is your burner!
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1. August 2006 @ 05:37 |
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there are plenty of other programs that will copy a copy...... you can do it with programs like VSO's CopyToDVD and Blindwrite 6. And plenty of others, too. Just showed you an easy, free program that will do the job..... unless your disk is bad, this should do the job for you!
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P2P2P
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1. August 2006 @ 06:11 |
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Thanks for the reply IHoe.
I tried Nero copy DVD but it always gets stuck when it hits the troublesome part of the disc.
The reason I tried Transcoding programs was to see if it would skip over the error and complete the process. I did try decrypter but not in ISO mode. [I've only ever seemed to need Decrypter File mode - Shrink - VOBBlank (if needed) - Burn]I'll give ISO mode a shot tonight and see if it'll do the job.
I'm begining to suspect disc quality, (even though it's a TDK) although it does play fine on the stand alone player.
Thanks again, I'll let you know how it goes!
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1. August 2006 @ 08:51 |
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TDK is not the greatest of quality disks. and now you're finding this out first hand. sorry.
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1. August 2006 @ 09:31 |
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I totally agree with IHoe about that,there's much more better quality medias out there than TDK.And if all these programs you're using can't get it done,then the most probable reason is because of the TDK.I bet if it was on another more decent media,it would have save you from all these hassles.
Btw,congratulations to you IHoe,for the "AfterDawn Addict" title,you surely deserve it :)
Vincent.
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1. August 2006 @ 09:46 |
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Try slysoft clone cd to make a 1-1 copy. Yes...I know what ya thinking. It does read dvds. And clone is very smart and will slow down the ripping speed if it hits a bad spot. I have saved many a dvd and music cd with it.
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1. August 2006 @ 10:32 |
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TY .... thank you!!!!! for noticing!
Ozzy... you're absolutely correct about CloneDVD! great program to use for a copy without compression and for that matter you can use Shrink with no compression too!
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1. August 2006 @ 10:37 |
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epox mobo EP-9NPAJ
amd 3700+ san diego core oc to 2.50
antec true power 430 watt dual +12 volt rails @ 18 amps each
bfg geforce 6800 gt oc edition
dragon case
2 x 512 DUAL CHANNEL ELIXOR RAM
Ibm P260 dvi & vga 21 inch crt monitor 1600 x 1200 @ 85 htz Oh yeah!!
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1. August 2006 @ 10:41 |
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P2P2P
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2. August 2006 @ 00:12 |
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Hi guys, tried decrypter but no go. It's the same as the others in that it gets 96% through the process and hits the bad sector brick wall. I'll give Clone a shot to see if it can skip over it.
Ok, it's definatly pointing in the bad disc area but it's just so annoying the way it'll play through the problem on a stand alone.
My worst fear looks to be getting closer after each attempt. One way I can do this, is to take the cable from the stand alone - pipe it into my tv card - Pause DVD - Tune it in and record it from there but even with a DVD signal I'm fairly sure the quality is going to suffer. Anyone know anything about forensic software or disc recovery software before I try this method?
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2. August 2006 @ 00:35 |
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That's what can be described as a sign of bad disc,because sometimes a bad disc can play well but cannot be ripped like in your case.A good media and a successful burn will result in good playability and can be ripped again and again without any single problem to make other backups.
Vincent.
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P2P2P
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2. August 2006 @ 01:00 |
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Yeah it's begining to look like it TY4ever. I've done loads of DVD backups myself and use Bulkpac (25 disc cake) which are cheap but have never let me down. Also I set all software to encode 4200Mb so as not to write to the edge of the disc and this has always done the job but as I said at the start it looks like my mate burned right to the edge and it's been damaged through handling even though there is no damage evident. I'm quite suprised to hear peoples opinions on TDK as I always considered them a good brand but perhaps they've outsourced to China. (Always condidered SONY the best but Bought a vaio laptop (not cheap) which was outsoursed/made in China and I'm not impressed with the build quality)
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2. August 2006 @ 10:35 |
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http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
this media guide shows you that TDK is good media but they also make their disk by CMC MAGs..... which is crappy media.... and Moser Bear and Philips... also not so good...... and last year there were fake TDKs with TDK ID codes that were permitted by TDK to use their codes but were quite lousy disks! Soooooo most of the TDK disks are of the NOT SO GOOD quality! If you're lucky you have an original TDK manufactured disk..... but since you are having soooooo much problems with this disk...... then I doubt it's the good stuff! Sorry.
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2. August 2006 @ 10:43 |
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IHoe's DVDDecrypter advice was sound. I would add that you can go into I/O settings and set retries to a much higher number. The other alternative which sometimes works is to try another reader, as another brand might be able to read it. Having 2 different burners and a reader has enabled me to successfully rip a problem DVD sometimes.
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2. August 2006 @ 11:24 |
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first off,clean the disk with some furniture polish,using a lint free cloth
the give isobuster a go,try and extract the image with that
if anythings going to work,it might just be that
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ricster
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3. August 2006 @ 03:28 |
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Definitely try another reader. I've used this method on more than one occasion in the past.
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P2P2P
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8. August 2006 @ 00:05 |
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Tried the furniture polish and apart from smelling of orange now, no go. I've tried the drive on my laptop but that's not as good as the desktop drives. I think I'm pretty much out of options at this stage but thanks again for all the help. When I get time I'll hook up the stand alone and record the last part onto the HD. It's just a major pain to do that. Cheers all
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