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moatezhab
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15. August 2006 @ 19:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry for such stupid questions but I wanted to know what is the diffrence between DDR memory and DDR2 is one faster then the other, also is it faster to have 1 x 1gb memory or 2 x 512 mb memory and lastly what is the diffrence between PCI-E and DDR video cards? I've also heard of DDR, DDR2 and GDDR3 is there a diffrence in speeds for these?

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16. August 2006 @ 05:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK, beginners guide to technology in brief.

DDR (Double data rate memory) became the standard for computer memory a few years ago, and has had a few updates.
DDR1 is 184-pin memory that works with older AMD boards (socket A, 754, 939 and 940) and older Intel boards (370, 478, and some 775) whereas DDR2 is new 240-pin memory that only works in newer boards, most Intel 775 and all AMD AM2. Note that it does not go into a DDR1 slot. It runs at a higher clock rate but with higher latency so overall is a bit faster, but the difference isn't huge.

As for graphics cards, PCI-E (Peripheral Component Interface Express) is the new standard of connecting graphics cards and has been since late 2004. AGP was the old standard and had narrower bandwidth to fit data down, so faster cards are only on PCI-E, and other versions available on both will be faster with PCI-E. There's no such thing as a DDR video card, only either a PCI-E, AGP or PCI graphics card that uses DDR memory. DDR2 RAM is appearing on low to mid range boards, whilst the better performers use GDDR3 (Graphics-oriented DDR3 memory). New cards due out this autumn will feature DDR4, faster and better again. DDR3 RAM for main PCs will be coming out around next year or so.
Hope this helps



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16. August 2006 @ 14:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
THNX :D

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16. August 2006 @ 15:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No probs, are you buying a Graphics card?



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16. August 2006 @ 17:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think he's searching for one...work ur magic st-sammoris!

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moatezhab
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16. August 2006 @ 20:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
already done:D as you can see in the signature :D

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16. August 2006 @ 23:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
a 6800GS XXX? Well, all I can say is that it's not what I would have chosen. Not to make you feel bad or anything, but did you ask at aD about that too?



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moatezhab
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17. August 2006 @ 03:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i did :D i looked at some revies on the net and it seemed to get some good fps. I also got it for $40... cant beat that price :D

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17. August 2006 @ 10:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
To me...that looks like a pretty good deal.

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St-Sammoris, according to this website (http://www.guru3d.com/article/content/292/), the GPU is 425 Mhz and the RAM clock speed is 1 Ghz. So...bassically it beats my X600 PRO, right?

If I insult you...don't get offended...my insults are "friendly insults"...I know this sounds stupid (ridiculous) but I am fet up of writing, "no offense" in my posts...

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17. August 2006 @ 14:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so far on my system i've been able to play any latest gen game all on full graphical settings :D so im quite happy with my first system built:D

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18. August 2006 @ 00:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
$40???? well there's no arguing with THAT! Sounds a bit suspicious, but meh. Ebay?

S3a, I tend not to look at clock and memory speed for graphics too much, it doesn't have a massive amount of relevance, there are lots of other factors that can cause something to be faster, memory bitrate and bandwidth, architecture type, pixel shaders. From knowledge of the area, a 6800GS XXX WILL beat an X600Pro, quite handsomely, but then so will lots of other cards. Typically I disrecommend XXX type cards because they carry an un-necessary price premium, but in moatezhab's case, that's not a valid argument!
Why am I a saint again, by the way? LOLOL



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moatezhab
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18. August 2006 @ 03:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I got it from craigslist toronto. Some guy had it for $80 with a reciept....so it wasnt stolen :D Then I put my bargaining skills into place, and got it for 40$.

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PNY OPTIMA 2GB (4X512MB) DDR2
Western Digital 250GB hard drive
XFX Geforce 6800GS XXX Edition PCI-E

PS2 w/Swap Magic 3.6
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