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17. August 2006 @ 13:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Awhile back I had Nero 6 installed. Upgraded to Nero 7. Later downgraded to Nero 6 because I rarely burn to DL media and there we're so many bugs even using 7.0.8.2 which is claimed to be the most stable around here. Recntley I ran CCleaner and it deleted some registry keys to do with Nero, so I ran the Nero Clean Pack. Reinstalled Nero 6, and upgraded using update pack 1,2,and 4 on the Nero site. Since the reinstall time Nero Vision Express has sadly gone from an average 2-2.5 hour encode time to about 5 hours burning the same size projects.

Does any one have any solutions/diagnosis as to why this happened and how to fix it?

Thanks.
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17. August 2006 @ 16:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Xplorer4
Check all your drives and make sure they are in DMA mode and not PIO mode. Look at 'current transfer mode' - all should have ultra dma mode and a #.
Here's a guide if needed:
http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/checking%20DMA.pdf

Whihc version of 6 did you use before?



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18. August 2006 @ 02:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The same version I have using now. Nero 6 with the update packages on the Nero site. I will check out the guide, but DMA should be on already but I will double check it.
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20. August 2006 @ 04:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5117/dm12rg9.png
My secondary drive is not set to DMA but it is not the DVD Drive as far as I know. Cd Burner is listed as Location 0 according to device manager, and DVD Burner is listed as location 1.
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Ok - from your pic you have 2 hard drives on the primary and good there.
The one drive is in PIO mode - uninstall the the secondary ide channel and reboot.
This is probably not the reason for the increased time unless you are reading from that drive when using Vision.

Next do a disc cleanup and a system defrag.

Running virus/spyware scans to make sure clean there too?

Might want to to a memory test just in case - here's free one:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=350

No multitasking and closes running programs you don't need.

If all is okay on the above - might want to do a reinstall again. Uninstall, run the clean tool - reboot.
Run ccleaner then install Nero.
You might want to try this version 6.6.0.18. Here's some links:
Package 1
http://httpdl1.usw.nero.com/software/Nero6/Nero-6.6.0.18_no_yt.exe

Package 2 (recode & vision)
http://httpdl1.usw.nero.com/software/Nero6/NVE-3.1.0.21_no_yt.exe



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22. August 2006 @ 20:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the help binkie. :) I did a clean install and evrything seems to be back to normal encode times now. :)
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No problemo Xplorer4 :)

Good to hear that did the trick for ya!



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23. August 2006 @ 12:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I spoke to soon. :( Last night I had set up Nero to encode to my HDD while I went to job training and my step moms for dinner. When I left it was an estimated 4/5 hour encode time. So i came home, and the encode was done. I ran the clean tool. Reinstalled, upgraded to Nero 6.6 and then loaded the VOBs from earlier so i could make a menu for them. I was able to encode them in about 20 minuetes which was normal, and I also set up another DVD to burn using NVE which took about 2 hours to encode which was the average encode time before the long encode times came into play.

This morning before my job training I wanted to encode another movie. Set it up to record to my HDD as usual and then create menus later. Well when I tried this morning my encode times we're back in the 4-5 hour range.

Now I have only one assumption as to what is causing the problem, and I believe there may be interference from the K Lite codec Pack(full + upgrade).
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23. August 2006 @ 17:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hmmm I won't think that would be the problem but I don't have K Lite installed.
Could be the files & the codecs used for them that is taking Nero longer.
That may be the difference the on why some take longer them others.
You could check them GSpot and see if there are any diffs.






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24. August 2006 @ 07:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well the increase itself has remained steady. The time itself jumped from an average 2-2.5 hour encode time one day to suddenly 4-5 hour encode times the next even though K-Lite had been installed on my system for some time before the sudden increase.

When I speak of smaller encode times the files do not matter in this situation as they all seem to take 4hours or so.

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Ok if you want to rule out Nero you can try the trial of WinAVI or ConvertXtoDVD (leaves a watermark - not sure about WinAVI - been awhile since I used either).
They are a little faster than Nero but will at least give you an idea of where the problem encoding these files is - Nero or the pc.
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/video_encoders/v...
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/video_encoders/w...





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24. August 2006 @ 18:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Have both already and ~90min was the encode time on WinAVI(as I prefer it over ConvertX, but thats another story). I let it full encode to DVD and it transcoded fine.

I decided to download the XviD, XviD MPEG 4 codec(which comes with Auto GK) and DivX codecs separately as I really do not need the other codecs. Now when I load the 2 AVIs in NVE express it starts to transcode, for about 3 seconds then it stops saying transcoding and just hangs there doing nothing.

Despite WinAVI working fine and the fast transcode times, I just have a preference of the Nero engine.

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24. August 2006 @ 19:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ugh - Nero!

Okay well looking like a problem / Nero and maybe a conflict with something on the pc that's slowing it down.

One other thing to check - check the video settings in Nero Vision - maybe you have high quality set in quality setting or encoding?

Anything else installed when Nero started slowing up on you?



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24. August 2006 @ 21:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmm come to think of it...I did install Adobe Premiere not to long ago. However I can not recall any actual software changes directley related to the time of the sudden increase.

I have used CCleaner to clean up my registry after deleting Premier.

If it helps, I recall trying to load some MP4s into NVE that we're created using Nero Recode. When I dropped them in NVE the Matroska codec form K Lite would kick in and the file analysis would take forever. I tried to disable the codec using AVICodec but that did not seem to work. So I did delete the codec pack, and reinstalled but did not install Matroska codec this time.
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EDIT: I decided to try 7.0.8.2 again, but still had the same problem as before. I upgraded to 7.2.3.2b and that seems to be working fine. Normal Encode times, and I can preview the videos with out it locking up when i skip through the video which was an issue in 7.0.8.2.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 25. August 2006 @ 09:58

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