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Need help identifying Sony TY's
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spankyj01
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13. September 2006 @ 17:26 |
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I checked through some of the threads with little luck, so I'm hoping for a quick answer. I recently ran out of my supply, been awhile since I've had to purchase any disks.
What is the key to identifying Sony Ty's nowadays?
Obviously MIJ - do they have to have the white octagon spacer still?
Thanks.
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AfterDawn Addict
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13. September 2006 @ 18:44 |
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@spanky
yes they do still have the white octagnal spacer on them...but most the 8x media is gone. some places still have them, but mostly now are 16x.....i have seen plenty of the sony 16x DVD-R MIJ.which are TY's but the 16x+r they are not TY's they are sony's brand sd21 i think they code out as....right now if ya have a staples around you go there and get them they have them on sale for $12.98 for 50 pack
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spankyj01
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14. September 2006 @ 12:32 |
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Good call Cincy, that was where I was looking at.
Thanks for the -R call, I've been using 8x +R's for so long now, I would have thought they were the guaranteed TY's.
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14. September 2006 @ 13:42 |
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well the 8x+r's are TY's but the 16x are not....i was at my local staples about a hour ago and they had the 16x+r's but not MIJ which doesnt matter the 16x arnt TY's.but they did have the 8x+r's which are TY's i got 2 50 packs. 100 disc for 27 bucks and htey are TY's.they also had the 16x-r MIJ which are TY's also.....i have about 25 burns on those 16x-rs and not a problem one with them
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15. September 2006 @ 16:16 |
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Here are some very useful info all about genuine Taiyo Yuden, this is taken from one of my best buddy here, kivory666 aka docTY.
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Taiyo Yuden rated speed & format/ media ID coding / inner hub reading
4x DVD-R = TYG01 / GD00xxxx
8x DVD-R = TYG02 / GG00xxxx
16x DVD-R = TYG03 / GH00xxxx
4x DVD+R = YUDEN000T01 / i don't know cuz i don't have any :P
8x DVD+R = YUDEN000T02 / TG00xxxx
16x DVD+R = YUDEN000T03 / TH00xxxx
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spankyj01
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15. September 2006 @ 17:14 |
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Thanks for the help fellas - I was able to score a couple spindles of the 16x -R at my local Staples. Coded out as TY03, so I am golden.
Much thanks!
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15. September 2006 @ 17:15 |
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i think most people agree...
look for gray octogonal spacers.
peace
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17. September 2006 @ 21:32 |
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look for gray octogonal spacers.
actually, a correction is needed here:
you would actually look for the "WHITE" octagonal spacers to find the Taiyo Yudens~ :)
but, for Sony brand, for the 16x MIJ DVD-R this holds true (TYG03s), but for the 16x DVD+R Sonys, it don't matter what color or shape the spacer is or even the country of origin does not matter, the 16x DVD+R SONY brand media ARE NOT Taiyo Yudens... :)
if you are lucky enough to find the Sony 8x DVD+R MIJ, those are Taiyo Yuden made (YUDEN000T02) coding...i have a few spindles of these left from the past but MINE had the ROUND WHITE spacers, not the white octagonal ones...must be "older stock"...either way, IF you can even find the 8x DVD+R Sony MIJ, just buy them...that's the "good stuff" right there...only thing u need to worry about is the country of origin IF your intent is to score some Taiyo Yuden media...it MUST be "MIJ" = made in japan for this to hold true...but if you don't care about getting TYs, then it doesn't matter with Sony brand~ LOL
@alkohol
nice seeing ya around, i haven't been on lately myself, but it's a pleasure to see a good friend from the past chime in~ have a good one~
docTY
docTY
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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17. September 2006 @ 21:44 |
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Listen to the Doc, this is your Holy Grail as far as TY03's are concerned.
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17. September 2006 @ 21:54 |
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@blivetNC
LOL, that is a NICE clear picture of the white octagonal spacer on the Sony 16x DVD-R MIJ TYG03s (holy grail it is indeed!) :)
docTY
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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18. September 2006 @ 05:14 |
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@blivetnc...
you allways come up with some o f the coolest oddball props...lol gotta be a boston thing...lol yea were both out of it now,,,
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18. September 2006 @ 08:45 |
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@CincyRob,
Our new motto,
"Play for the Draft!"
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Negritude
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18. September 2006 @ 19:37 |
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"but, for Sony brand, for the 16x MIJ DVD-R this holds true (TYG03s), but for the 16x DVD+R Sonys, it don't matter what color or shape the spacer is or even the country of origin does not matter, the 16x DVD+R SONY brand media ARE NOT Taiyo Yudens... :)"
CORRECTION: a white octagonal spacer has never been found on the 16x +R Sonys, so one can NOT say that it doesn't matter. That's faulty logic. If a white octagonal spacer is ever found on the 16x +Rs, they may be TYs.
As of this moment, no 16x +R Sony TYs have been found, so the assumption is, Sony has not contracted with TY to manufacture them. TY is currently only making -R media for Sony. Simple.
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19. September 2006 @ 18:58 |
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I have a spindle of those SONY+R Discs (1-8 times). They coded out TY'S. Wal Mart around me has them all the time around here. Just the fact they cost just under $25 per 50 pack (ouch).
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20. September 2006 @ 05:13 |
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so one can NOT say that it doesn't matter. That's faulty logic. If a white octagonal spacer is ever found on the 16x +Rs, they may be TYs.
As of this moment, no 16x +R Sony TYs have been found, so the assumption is, Sony has not contracted with TY to manufacture them. TY is currently only making -R media for Sony. Simple.
CORRECTION to YOUR correction :
i have spoken to my TY rep. and have been notified that Taiyo Yuden will NOT sell/manufacture 16x DVD+R YUDEN000T03s to Sony or Fuji or anyone else for that matter here in the U.S. markets~ :) (i am speaking only of course for USA markets, other countries already do have 16x DVD+R TYs under different brand names) at least till the end of this year 2006, unless TY changes their contracts w/ various other "brand names"...what i have stated above is ACCURATE, so go on w/ ur "faulty logic" and do your "white octagonal spacer" theory...it's NOT gonna happen~
docTY
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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Negritude
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20. September 2006 @ 10:23 |
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"...at least till the end of this year 2006, unless TY changes their contracts w/ various other "brand names"..."
That's exactly what I just said. There is no current contract. It doesn't mean that this state of affairs will exist in perpetuity. Your own statement says that things could change starting in January of 2007. It's already September, going on October, so 2007 ain't that far away.
Like I said, the theory of the octagonal spacer is correct, period. You're not going to find it on +R media right now, but that doesn't mean that the theory itself is wrong. You're conflating the absence of something with the impossibility of something, which is wrong.
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20. September 2006 @ 11:41 |
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@negritude
to ASSUME that Sony's marketing tactic of using the "white octagonal" spacer to differentiate between the "TYs" and Sony's own produced media is not completely valid, but you are in fact correct that at least for CURRENT stock (on the 16x rated speed discs), the spacer theory DOES hold true~ :)
one would have to ASSUME that Sony doesn't change their packaging strategy in the near future for your theory to hold true, i've purchased at least 10 spindles of 50-pack Sony 8x DVD+R MIJ with the WHITE ROUND spacers that yielded Taiyo Yudens (YUDEN000T02), whether or not i got "older stock" before Sony started using the white octagonal spacers in their MIJ spindles so one could quickly find the TYs can be left for argument~
while the possibility of Sony contracting with Taiyo Yuden in 2007 IS very much a feasibility, i was mearly speaking on behalf of TY and what is CURRENTLY available today for consumers to purchase~ :)
you make a valid point in me conflating the two topics in which i was discussing, however, it was not to be construed as a play on words; i was simply explaining for the "avg joe" user that goes out to their local Best Buy/Staples/B&M retailer to pick up a spindle of Sony brand media, given they are informed with ACCURATE information CURRENTLY to distinguish between Taiyo Yuden produced media and Sony's own, at this time, YES, ur white octagonal spacer theory DOES hold true for 16x rated media, but if one simply looks at the spacer color and shape, for 8x rated DVD+R Sony media, a person could simply overlook and pass up some genuine TYs if they base their choosing procedure based SOLELY on the spacer shape and color~ :) i myself would not have purchased these YUDEN000T02s 8x DVD+R Sony MIJ if i had gone on spacer theory alone (white round as i mentioned earlier), i feel i picked up excellent media by taking a "chance" that others may have well overlooked if their trip entailed ONLY LOOKING for the white octagonal spacers...
have a good one
docTY
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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wcalifas
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20. September 2006 @ 20:56 |
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Well if your local walmart has the DVD+R take in one of the staple adds for 12.98 and they'll match the price. I did it and ended up with a whole bunch of the MIJ's. Didn't know they matched the price til I asked them, and no one really had bought them at the price they had them there. So good luck.
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20. September 2006 @ 23:40 |
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@alkohol
nice seeing ya around, i haven't been on lately myself, but it's a pleasure to see a good friend from the past chime in~ have a good one~
docTY
@docTY
Hi there buddy, So, how's it going?. Yep, it sure has been a long time and it's nice seeing you here. I haven't been on as much as before, especially this forum (DVD-R/+R media). Well, at least I tried to be here (AD) and help out newbies more now. See ya around.
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