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pooface
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21. September 2006 @ 18:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am not very bright when it comes to computers, I can't put one together myself so I am looking for the best place to buy a near top of the line gaming computer. I have only heard of a few. I have looked at ibuypower.com vigorgaming.com alienware and dell. These are the only places I know of. What I really need is a guide or FAQ that will guide me through the important decisions I need to make about the hardware to include in my machine. If there are any guides to buying a new computer please let me know about them, and if anyone knows of a really good place to buy computers from let me know that too. I would be greatful for any input tips or help.

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21. September 2006 @ 23:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Price range?

When evolution selects its agents, it does so at a cost, makes demands in exchange for singularity, and you may be asked to do something against your very nature. This force, evolution, is not sentimental. Like the Earth itself, it knows only the hard facts of life's struggle with death. All you can do is hope and trust that when you have served its needs faithfully, there may still remain some glimmer of the life you once knew.

Dell GX240 P4 1.8ghz, 768mb PC133
Western Digital 250gb 7200rpm
Western Digital 250gb 7200rpm
Visiontek 9600xt 256mb
BenQ DW1640 (BSOB), LITEON LTD163 (GH5S-D)
Sony 8x DVD+R (YUDEN000T02)
Verbatim 8x DVD+R (MCC 003}
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22. September 2006 @ 01:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If I'm honest you can do a better, cheaper and more effective job yourself. We're here to help you! With high end PCs, you will be mugged mercilessly by stores to get one. A storemay charge you $3500 for something you can make for $1900, and I'm not joking. Stop by the PC building thread and ask a few questions. It's literally just putting some screws in, plugging some wires in and plugging things into slots.



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22. September 2006 @ 13:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A guide would be much better, since there are too many conflicting views and people seem to like to repeat what other people say over and over and over and over and over again until it's sickening. Ask for a CPU, you'll get five different answers from people who swear their idea is the best. Then, you'll get twenty other people repeating what the other five said, though, they're convinced that their useless parroting is actually unique and helping.

Yes, different views and opinions are lovely. But, not when people repeat what's already been said (or doesn't need to be said) ad nauseum.

Also, it's a TERRIBLE idea to suggest to someone who claims that they know very little about computers, that they should build it themselves. Ofcourse, to someone who knows what they're doing, they won't/shouldn't have much/any trouble at all. But, you can't just talk someone thru putting together a computer and hope that they'll know the difference between what and what -not- to do.

When evolution selects its agents, it does so at a cost, makes demands in exchange for singularity, and you may be asked to do something against your very nature. This force, evolution, is not sentimental. Like the Earth itself, it knows only the hard facts of life's struggle with death. All you can do is hope and trust that when you have served its needs faithfully, there may still remain some glimmer of the life you once knew.

Dell GX240 P4 1.8ghz, 768mb PC133
Western Digital 250gb 7200rpm
Western Digital 250gb 7200rpm
Visiontek 9600xt 256mb
BenQ DW1640 (BSOB), LITEON LTD163 (GH5S-D)
Sony 8x DVD+R (YUDEN000T02)
Verbatim 8x DVD+R (MCC 003}

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22. September 2006 @ 13:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
if you decide on building ur own comp, here's a good guide: http://sysbuild.corsairmemory.com/report.aspx?id=2

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22. September 2006 @ 13:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, we can give them good advice. If they choose not to take it, that's their problem.



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22. September 2006 @ 14:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
as youve not given us a price its hard to say, you could go to dell and get a pentium d 805 and overclock the nuts off it for £400, or go to someone like vadim and get a cepheus for £6000 which has every bell and whistle money can buy.
but it is realy easy to put one together your self and it would cost about half as much plus your o.s.
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22. September 2006 @ 16:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My price range is $1500 to $2000, I would go a little higher than $2000 but I would rather keep it below or right on $2000. The thing I really need is an explanation on each part of the computer. The best place I have found to buy a computer is ibuypower.com They give you an option for every part imaginable. But my problem is I don't know what is best for me. I want a top of the line gaming machine, but I don't know how much of a difference there is between things like an amd 64 X2 4600 or an amd 64 FX-60 there is a three or four hundred dollar difference but I don't know if its worth the extra money, is there that much difference. Thats not the only problem I have, its just one of the many. I just don't know enough about the different components to know what I should be getting, should I post a complete list of components I am thinking of getting? Thanks again for all the help and responses.
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22. September 2006 @ 16:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
if you want top of the line go for a intel core 2 duo(conroe)system because they are stompping all over the amd chips, the only problem is not that many games utilise both cpus yet but they will soon.

if you post a list we can give you the pros and con of each, and some alternatives to realy confuse you ;)

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23. September 2006 @ 00:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   

When evolution selects its agents, it does so at a cost, makes demands in exchange for singularity, and you may be asked to do something against your very nature. This force, evolution, is not sentimental. Like the Earth itself, it knows only the hard facts of life's struggle with death. All you can do is hope and trust that when you have served its needs faithfully, there may still remain some glimmer of the life you once knew.

Dell GX240 P4 1.8ghz, 768mb PC133
Western Digital 250gb 7200rpm
Western Digital 250gb 7200rpm
Visiontek 9600xt 256mb
BenQ DW1640 (BSOB), LITEON LTD163 (GH5S-D)
Sony 8x DVD+R (YUDEN000T02)
Verbatim 8x DVD+R (MCC 003}

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 23. September 2006 @ 01:05

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23. September 2006 @ 03:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Jallan: He's buying a PC, not building one.
Let's look at Ibuypower, selecting the "Core 2 Duo configurator" option.
Case? The NZXT Lexa offered in original black is very very tempting, because they look so good, although that's largely up to you. Neon lights? Up to you, they're not expensive. Thermaltake 680W PSU really, there aren't many good alternatives that don't cost the earth!
Core 2 Duo E6600. Even if you don't overclock it, these are Fast with three capital Fs.
Free games? How good a deal is this?
I don't like the not-allowed-a-different-heatsink approach but never mind, guess you'll have to live with a stock heatsink there. (I'd advise against Liquid cooling) You don't want extra LED case fans If you're using a case that already has some like the Lexa. If you are using a case that doesn't come with fans though, I'd recommend getting some, but then again, I don't know how quiet the ones IBP offer will be.
Memory - 2GB. ("corsair value or major brand") - depends what you get, but that should be alright! XMS2 probably isn't worth the extra.
Radeon X1900XT for video card. Fanboys may pry you away from them, but they are so fast for the price.
Standard 250GB Hard disk is fine. Any more storage is optional, avoid RAID if you're not experienced.
NEC ND-3550 in Black for the first optical is fine. I'd recommend a second optical as well, a 16x DVD-ROM, also in black if you're going Lexa.
Creative SB Audigy SE for sound card is a good card to get, and quite cheap. You can buy your own speakers, so there's no need for IBP to supply them. You don't need a 56k modem do you? Well if you do, add one! Onboard LAN is fine.
You don't need to buy a mouse, keyboard, monitor etc. from IBP, you may as well look around for the best deal somewhere else.
I make that lot a round $1675, well within your budget.



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23. September 2006 @ 14:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sammorris, how very perceptive you are.

The list is simply for reference in things to look for in a system.

too long, didn't read.

When evolution selects its agents, it does so at a cost, makes demands in exchange for singularity, and you may be asked to do something against your very nature. This force, evolution, is not sentimental. Like the Earth itself, it knows only the hard facts of life's struggle with death. All you can do is hope and trust that when you have served its needs faithfully, there may still remain some glimmer of the life you once knew.

Dell GX240 P4 1.8ghz, 768mb PC133
Western Digital 250gb 7200rpm
Western Digital 250gb 7200rpm
Visiontek 9600xt 256mb
BenQ DW1640 (BSOB), LITEON LTD163 (GH5S-D)
Sony 8x DVD+R (YUDEN000T02)
Verbatim 8x DVD+R (MCC 003}
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23. September 2006 @ 14:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Most of the stuff you listed there probably isn't available at that site. I took the trouble of looking through that site and selecting the best options for the price, then writing them here. You couldn't even be bothered to read my post.



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PC Specs page -- http://my.afterdawn.com/sammorris/blog_entry.cfm/11247
updated 10-Dec-13
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