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homeg269
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6. April 2006 @ 18:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey, I want to get rid of my old pc and build an entirely new one. This is what I got as a ful PC and was wondering what people thought about this. Its not built for extreme performance, but as something that will last me a few years. Not big into gaming, with fast refresh and frame rate. Photo editing is my biggest project. I also calculated this to be about $1200. Yeah, I know its quite a bit.

Cooler Master CM Stacker 83
Antec Phantom 500W
Intel Pentium D 920
Zalman CNPS9500 LED
ASUS P5WD2 Preium
ASUS WiFi-TV PCI Card
Corsair TWIN2X1024-5400C4
Plextor PX-716A
Plextor PX-230A/SW-BL
Seagate SATA 300 MB/s 160GB ST3160812AS
Seagate ATA133 200GB (x2)

I was also given the suggestion to upgrade this to a ASUS P5WD2-E Premium, but I'm not into gaming so that would be a bit of waste for me. So if you have any suggestions...

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6. April 2006 @ 18:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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6. April 2006 @ 18:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@homeg269

For $1200, you shouldn't have a system that can't do anything. What about a monitor? Are you keeping your original??
Plextor optical drives are good any everything, but they are WAY overpriced.
I've had everything from LITE-ON, ACER, Sony, never had a optical drive that crapped out before the technology got better and needed replacing.
For your burner, check this out. Great Drive.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827101008

And, I've been through a Celeron, a P4, a sempron, and my newest Athlon X2. I would rather have a sempron than a P4 anyday. I will never use a pentium again. If AMD goes bankrupt or something, I'll still find a different co to buy processors from.

EDIT: Oh and why the 2 IDE drives??? Get a mobo with 4 SATA ports.
SATA all the way. IDE is crap. I wish I could have hooked up my burner and dvd rom SATA just because. I just don't like the interface anymore. 24hours and I got spoiled.

Going to the bar. Be back later.


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homeg269
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6. April 2006 @ 18:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I will be using my old moniter. I will not be buying the IDE drives or the Plextors, since those are the parts that I have. This is why I am getting the Seagate 160GB.

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6. April 2006 @ 20:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ah. Well then I don't see how that system could possibly be $1200.

That cpu only cost's like $244 at newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116237

But personally I'd go this route if you are interested in dual core.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103562

But, I have my stand against Intel.

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6. April 2006 @ 21:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
byron02 what if i get a new hd for my old pc do you think i could put the windows xp pro on it? i just i wanna use this old one for like downloading and surfing the net but the other one for gaming.
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7. April 2006 @ 03:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That PC's ok, homeg269, but I can't hide from you that the D920 is a pretty slow processor, in fact it's actually the second slowest ever made (above the 820). However, the rest of the system looks solid. What graphics are you running, or are they integrated?

I'm impressed by those 3dmark figures byron02, I get 5 thousand and something. I'm wondering what an X2 4200 + X1900XT will achieve.



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homeg269
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7. April 2006 @ 07:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thats what ive been hearing from people and from other forums, so i might be switching to AMD.

Ill be going on something along the lines of this new setup:

Cooler Master CM Stacker 830
Antec Phantom 500W
AMD Athlon 64 3800+ 2.4GHz ADA3800BVBOX
ASUS A8N - Product line
TWINX1024-4000PT
Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic
Plextor PX-716A
Plextor PX-230A/SW-BL
WD RAPTOR X 150GB SERIAL ATA

Im still not sure on the mobo, video card, and possible the PSU. I wanted to build a quiet pc, thats why i chose the fanless antec, not sure if that is the best way to go.

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7. April 2006 @ 08:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Either get the premium board or the A8N32.
I wish I'd gone for the 32 board because its got the 8 phase power on it, but I didn't like the layout as much as the premium.
Anything power than the premium and your looking at jumpers for the sli.


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7. April 2006 @ 08:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A new HD for your old computer? Yeah you could do that. I would open it up and make sure there's room and everything, but yeah. You'll probably have to run it IDE which is no fun, but if you were just wanting a new OS on a newclean HD it'd work fine.


@homeg I went with the A8N-E, I had chosen the SLI, but I will not be running SLI, so it was a waste of money. This board had everything I wanted besides IEEE1392. I would have loved a firewire port, but I can buy a PCI version for like 5-10 bucks of newegg. The A8N-E supports SATA-2, which was suprisingly hard to find on a full size ATX board. Found it on ALOT of M-ATX's. Plus it's nForce 4, which I am really liking.

Oh, and the Raptor is a great HD. I wish I had the money for one, or four really.

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homeg269
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7. April 2006 @ 13:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So if I do go with the A8N-SLI mobo, what video card would be best. I am trying to get something along the lines of the All-In-Wonder. Also what about the memory?

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7. April 2006 @ 13:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sorry thats A8N32-SLI


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7. April 2006 @ 13:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
system memory of video card memory? System, I wouldn't go less than 1G, and video 256 should do you good.

Will you be running SLI?? Doesn't sound like it since you are talking about the All-in-wonder

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homeg269
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7. April 2006 @ 13:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i was refering to system memory.

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7. April 2006 @ 13:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Personally for overall performance, I'd run 2 1024MB sticks in dual channel.

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8. April 2006 @ 00:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
All in wonder wouldn't be the best choice of card for that board.
Better looking at Nvidia cards that support Sli.


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8. April 2006 @ 02:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It doesn't actually matter whether or not you use the board's SLi facility, only the best boards have SLi on them, so often single-card (i.e. sane) people choose SLi boards to get the best functionality. Although he's upgrading, friend and fellow member Arvinf is currently using an A8N-SLi Premium with an X300Se. (simply because after going 64-bit he couldnt afford to replace the graphics card!) I'd ideally like the A8N-E board because of what I've heard about it, but if that's not available I can see it being a K8N ultra.
With system RAM, if you're gaming go with 2x1024MB. That's currently the best option. 1GB just isn't enough any more. I can't run FEAR at all because I only have 1GB of RAM.



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8. April 2006 @ 03:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My mate has the A8N-SLI premium with 2x512MB Corsair 3200 extra low latency , with a 4400X2 CPU and 2x6800GT's in Sli, and he is playing fear with all the settings maxed out.
Kind of blows away the theory of needing 2GB the play it.
It is only the recommended amount of memory, not the minimum amount.
I've also just done asearch and can see plenty of people are playing it on 1GB of ram.
Its got more to do with the system as a whole cpu/ram/gpu.


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8. April 2006 @ 03:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So here's me running UT2004 and Doom 3 at 1920x1200 and 1280x1024 respectively on high settings without glitches, and yet I can't play the starting level on FEAR at 640x480. I can only assume it's a glitched install. I'm due a reformat anyway, I've had this windows install on for nearly 6 months! I haven't left it that long since I was running 98 soon after I first got my old PC...



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8. April 2006 @ 05:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Theres still a big difference between a 3000+ Barton and a 4400X2 CPU.
And the 6800GTs in Sli are far far higher spec than an AGP X800 Pro.
His latest PCmark05 score was a little under 10K, so maybe run the latest version of PCmark and see how that compares.



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8. April 2006 @ 05:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes but an Xp 3000+ and an X800 Pro should at least be able to run the game at low settings.



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8. April 2006 @ 19:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@byron02. hows the windows xp pro man. is it working properly? i'd like to hear the feedbacks from you bro.
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It's going great. No real problems. Microsoft's Genuine Advantage tool gave me a little nudge, but I got that taken care of.

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9. April 2006 @ 17:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
nice. good to hear man. i will order my stuff this week. will let you know how it goes once everything is done. prolly send you a pm or reply back to this thread.
 
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