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why are my taiyo yuden discs no good
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Grouty
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30. September 2006 @ 08:42 |
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I am sure you have all heard this before but i am new on these forums and cannot find what i am looking for. I have bought a 100 pack of taiyo yuden discs. well supposedly they are and i have tried nearly every one of them, and they wont even lead in. I actually burnt about 10 discs but they came up as disc error in my dvd player which usually plays anything i throw at it. I am using a LITE-ON SOHW 1633S burner which has previously written on really cheap unbranded discs but these supposedly top of the range discs just don't want to know. I have upgraded the firmware to 1633S.BSOY.patched-cf-mcled but this hasn't solved the problem. Am i doing something wrong or does my pc have a problem or has my DVD writer finally packed up. It is only a year old although i have burnt quite a few discs. Which discs record better with the LITE-ON SOHW-1633S burner. I would be very grateful for any help,i am tearing my hair out.
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poolpro
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30. September 2006 @ 10:28 |
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Did you buy the spindle with no center stacking ring? If so did the top of the stack have Japanese lettering? If it didn't have that then they are not Authentic Taiyo's. If you have Nero you can check your disc's info and if it codes out as TY-GG0000xx then they are Authentic. Another way to tell if they are Authentic is by looking on the underside of the disc and look for Lettering such as GG0000xx . There are also codes to look for underneath the disc but can't remember the other codes.Do a search for Taiyo Yuden codes and that should help you find out if they are real or fake.
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1. October 2006 @ 01:39 |
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Grouty
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2. October 2006 @ 10:53 |
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Thanks for the help. Yes you are probably right. I have no code like the ones you gave me on these discs. Probably dodgy discs although they weren't cheap. Think i will send them back to where they came from and try some real taiyo yuden discs.
Thanks again
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2. October 2006 @ 19:46 |
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Where'd you get 'em? There are only a select few that sells authentic TYs. Supermediastore.com and newegg.com are two of the more popular ones.
Latest AnyDVD to rip > VOBB to blank the unwanted on a DVD > Shrink to compress > ImgBurn to burn = Never starting a thread asking how to backup a movie
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MarkDogg1
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2. October 2006 @ 20:55 |
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bought some real yuden from supermediastore.com yes they coded out as real yuden and only 1 out 10 would play threw without skips freezing etc,go with verb's or fujifilm made in japan never had a problem especially with them fuifilm made in japan just hard 2 find
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JoeRyan
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6. October 2006 @ 07:25 |
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When you say the Taiyo Yuden discs "don't play without skipping," does that mean on a different DVD player or on the Lite-on SOHW-1633S? My guess is that it the DVD player giving you a problem. The recording drive is a good one, and the media are also excellent; but with all the variables involved with optical playback, that may not mean that well recorded discs will still play.
If other discs play on your DVD player, stick with them. You can also try the TY recordings on a different DVD player, and they will probably work.
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6. October 2006 @ 23:36 |
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what speed did you burn them at? try burning at a slower speed 4x or 6x never any faster than 8x
MarkDogg1 BTW fujifilm MIJ dvds code out as Taiyo Yuden
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7. October 2006 @ 02:15 |
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@Grouty - where did you get those dodgy TY ?, it could help other people avoid buying them if they're definitely fake TY
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7. October 2006 @ 08:11 |
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i hope it wasnt rima i just ordered a 100pk of Ty's 8xdvd+r inkjet printables from them.
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7. October 2006 @ 10:25 |
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No response :(
lol
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8. October 2006 @ 02:29 |
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after looking at Grouty's drive on VideoHelp.com:
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdwriters.php?...0&Search=Search
I noticed that his drive can't burn the 16x DVD-Rs! And Grouty PMed me on Sept. 28th asking me this question .... which I told him to post in the forum for all to see! In his PM he told me it was DVD-Rs and now looking at his drive it won't play the 16x -Rs. Could this be his problem? Also he mentions that he upgraded the firmware to BSOY which only goes to 12x -Rs! so maybe this is his problem with the TYs!
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8. October 2006 @ 02:40 |
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that's a very good point!. guess it depends exactly what TY those are and if they are indeed supported correctly in the firmware. was trying (unsuccessfully) to get a breakdown of the firmware contents off the cdfreaks website
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8. October 2006 @ 03:08 |
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What do his disks code as?
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8. October 2006 @ 03:11 |
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LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S - BS0C, BS0H, BS0K, BS0R, BS0S, BS0Y
4x +RDL and 12x DVD-R upgrade: BS41
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Grouty
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9. October 2006 @ 04:01 |
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Hi sorry i didn't reply i was away at the time. yeah hi thanks for all of the replies. By the way i am in the uk. i was just reading that my LITE-ON drive won't burn DVD-R at 16x. Does that mean that if i buy 16x discs i can't burn them at say 8x. I have also tried some genuine TAIYO YUDEN discs but i bought 16x discs again and although some of the discs will burn when i play them back in my DVD home cinema DVD player it states disc error. I take it i have got this all wrong and should be buying at the most 12x DVD-R discs. I was using really cheap unbranded silver topped 4x DVD-R discs and had relatively small problems. I would lose probably about 20 out of 100 but as they are cheap thats not so bad. I just wanted to try better discs that's all but if i want to do that it looks as though i would need to upgrade my Burner and home cinema player SHARP HOME CINEMA WITH DVD HT-CN400DV. Not really an option.
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Grouty
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9. October 2006 @ 04:08 |
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Oh by the way i forgot to say the new discs i bought were TYG03
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9. October 2006 @ 04:09 |
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your media for the burner you have now won't burn correctly with the 16x media. Sometimes a firmware update will solve this problem but it's obvious that it didn't in your case. Stick with the 8x media and burn at 4x! you shouldn't have a problem then. Taiyo Yuden is one of the best quality media out there. You just have to buy the right one for your burner. Now.... the cheap stuff you've been buying and using...... yeah you might get 80 out of 100 (which you should get 100% burns not 80%..... that's a lousy record and time consuming).... if your satisfied with that kind of results..... fine..... but consider this: will your burns with lousy, crappy media stand the test of time!? My guess is that all your burns with the lousy media will become useless a year or so down the road when you try to play them again! That's what crappy media does.....buy the better stuff and get better results and keep them longer! Just make sure that they are 8x media!
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9. October 2006 @ 04:11 |
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most older members of Afterdawn know that 16x, DVD-R Taiyo Yuden disks are TYG03s, 8x DVD-R TYs code out to TYG02s.
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9. October 2006 @ 11:30 |
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Just want to say that TYG02 is still out there (and so is TYG01, 4x), but I'd still stock up. Some say TYG02 is TY's best -R. I think they're on sale now anyway at SMS.
-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
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Grouty
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10. October 2006 @ 14:52 |
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Ok thanks everyone for all of the info. I think i am a little wiser now. i will go look for some 8x ty's. Let's hope my supplier will take the 16x discs back otherwise i certainly do have a lot of coasters.
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10. October 2006 @ 23:38 |
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Dunker, i havent seen any TYGO1s in almost a year so i don't think there around anywhere
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11. October 2006 @ 09:09 |
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If it were me and this is what I did to my 1633, I crossflashed it with some patched firmware to a 1653. Made a much better drive out of it imo. Firmware covers more and recognizes more media. Here's a link to the f/w http://codeguys.rpc1.org/firmwares.html and here's the f/w's you need. Do so at your own risk. The second one will convert led back to light-on way: red burn, green read.
? CS0T - patched - crossflashing - fast burn FBD/FBDX (for 1633S, 1653S etc.)
? CS0T - patched - crossflashing, multi-colored LED (for 1213S, 1613S, 1633S, etc.)
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11. October 2006 @ 10:13 |
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@aabbccdd
The 4x DVD-R (valueline) at SMS can code out as TYG01 as well as TYG02 and TYG03. I guess it's a crap shoot what you really get though.
-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
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aabbccdd
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11. October 2006 @ 10:18 |
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Dunker yes they can BUT i have gotten 1000s of TYs from supermediastore in the last year or so i havent gotten any TYGO1s in over a year ,they phased them out about a year ago
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