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TORRENT cleints kill browsing
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yarray
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30. October 2006 @ 04:38 |
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For the past year i have not been able to have a torrent client run while i am browsing the web.
I am running azures; i have tried bit comment, and numerous other clients.
The problem is NOT with my d/l or u/l rates. All i have to do is have any bit torrent client open and my browsing speeds come to a hault.
I have also dissabled windows firewall in hopes to solve any issues.
I do not understand why having a torrent client opened kills my browsing.
Once again i am not d/l any torrents or have any torrents pending connection, i simply have the client opened.
Thanks guys for any help.
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30. October 2006 @ 06:16 |
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Azurues is quite heavy on the resources...such as RAM etc.
What browser are you using? You could just try emptying your cache and cookies if you have not done so..
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yarray
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31. October 2006 @ 07:20 |
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I had a feeling i would get an answer like that here.
Please, do not post telling me azures is a resource hog or such what.
Re-read my post. I clearly stated that i have tried every torrent client, including azures.
thanks
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31. October 2006 @ 07:30 |
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That's nice you expected an answer like that, you obvioulsy know what you are talking about to some degree.
Anyway, I read your post first time round, no need to revisit it. I was merely stating a fact...At no point was I trying to suggest another client or such what. Maybe you should re-read my post.
Have you tried what i suggested...?
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What browser are you using? You could just try emptying your cache and cookies if you have not done so..
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31. October 2006 @ 07:34 |
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With all the RAM usage it's a wonder your browser opens the same day you try to run it.
-Mike
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31. October 2006 @ 14:22 |
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Can you please tell us the specs of the computer you are using?
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31. October 2006 @ 16:40 |
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Bah. Answer inc:
1. Allocation. Torrent program gets bandwith allocation priority, meaning it hogs everything you got. Ram too, and cpu cycles, however--I use Azureus *gasp* and less than 1Gb of ram, and I never ever come close to 40% usage.
2. Available connections. Your computer (especially if you've got SP2 installed), doesn't like >150 connections. Torrent client + chat client + a few Firefox tabs open...too many connections. If your computer's not coughing, your router is.
3. And lastly, similarly to number 1, it's available bandwidth. Sure, you may not be sucking down material at 100% of your capacity, but likely you're using >50% of your UPload capacity. With no upload, there is no download, because your requests are delayed and thus so is your reception of whatever you're requesting from the remote server. Beyond that, even though your torrent may not be downloading at max capacity, it's still raping bandwidth trying to connect to peers and seeds, disconnecting from peers and seeds, and trying all over again.
Browsing + torrenting is generally NOT a recommended practice.
~Melee
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1. November 2006 @ 10:03 |
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meelee,
did u read what he wrote? he just said the second he opens his client, his browsing stops working, hes not connected to anyone nor is he downloading anything.
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1. November 2006 @ 16:11 |
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That's not exactly what he said, but....
1. Does it happen to other computers on your network? If there aren't any other computers, have a friend bring one over and try. If it happens to them too, it's your ISP d/c'ing you--because you're still moving data just opening the client.
2. If it's not them, it's software related. You've got a virus/spyware/malware or a corrupted TCP/IP. Scan/fix or....reinstall!
~Melee
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yarray
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1. November 2006 @ 17:27 |
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ok
i have p4 2.8e
1gb ram (50% available when client/clients are open, plenty resources.
plenty hd space
win xp
i have looked around the need and have come across similar topics but yet no only a few people have experienced this.
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yarray
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1. November 2006 @ 17:30 |
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ill fool around with my lap top but i have to install windows because my hd recently crashed.
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nerys
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13. November 2006 @ 11:38 |
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OK its not his computer its the ROUTER - I have the same trouble when I start downloading a torrent after a few minutes I can not use the internet EXCEPT for that torrent this INCLUDES ON ANY OTHER COMPUTER ON THE NETWORK therfore its the router
when I STOP the torrent (UTORRENT) after a few minutes things return to normal
so its doing "something" to the router I just don't know what or how to fix it. I tried using DD WRT instead of linksys (AWESOME firmware BTW) no joy
IE I need to know what settings I have to twiggle to stop this from kill my router. Suggestions?? I already reduced globals and per connection settings. did not seem to help
Its not the computer (again it affect ALL machines on the network)
Its not bandwidth since its only uploading at 25k (1/4th my limit) and downloading at 15-150k (a tiny fraction of my limit I can reliably hit 2100kb/s)
its doing something thats "taxing" my router somehow. I just need to know how to stop it from doing it. It even kills my vonage connection
Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/
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13. November 2006 @ 13:15 |
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It's probably too many connections for the router to handle.
Set max global connections to a number <= 100. (Less than or equal to.)
~Melee
or it could be the ISP throttling based on header detection, in which case you need to enable encryption.
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13. November 2006 @ 13:31 |
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2100..even im impressed by that ;)
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13. November 2006 @ 13:48 |
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It actually can be either one but I agree that it's probably the router. Most routers aside from $$$ ones and D-Links don't like having many connections open. Its a function of the size of state tables and, thus, the router's memory, as well as its processing speed. But most routers are designed to have a dozen or two connections open AT MOST. P2P software esp. BT can open hundreds. Many routers will crash; yours is probably a little better in that it just chokes a little, not crashes. I'll wager if you look at your connections with Netstat or TCPview most of not nearly all are in a TIME_WAIT or SYN_SENT state. Your router is probably throttling connections to save itself from a crash.
-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
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15. November 2006 @ 03:56 |
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most of the time what will kill your internet browezing the most is your up speed on your torrent don't have your up speed on your clinet set to max speed set it to 1/4 of your up speed of your conection, you will find that you will be able to do your browezing much better, hope that helps good luck have a nice day
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nerys
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15. November 2006 @ 10:46 |
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it is at 1/4 up speed. I get about 100k up (cost me an extra $10 a month for that :-( I cap mine at 25-30
oddly the router totally died (tried to overclock it) so I had to completely reset it and start over.
Oddly now its working JUST fine !! I think I had something in NVRAM from the linksys firmware that was freaking it out when I did torrents for now its working just peachy! no effect on the rest of the network at all.
I limits my globals to 100 and my per to 40 I also lowered my allowed ports on the router to 350
So far so good !! :-)
Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/
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