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WOW.. Processor...
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Trinijoy
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2. November 2006 @ 05:34 |
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Wow the WII processor is only 900 MHZ.
How does that compare to the 3.2GHZ in the PS3.
Does the PS3 have an Intel chip?
Or does the chip in WII a different kind of chip with more CACHE. Or what? Because that is significantly slower.
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oofRome
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2. November 2006 @ 08:30 |
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Trinijoy
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2. November 2006 @ 08:40 |
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Thanks for the link however.
I read and it's why I asked the question above.
Thanks for the link though.
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oofRome
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2. November 2006 @ 20:41 |
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tabletpc
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2. November 2006 @ 20:57 |
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ok here is the diffrence
1.the ps3 processor has 6 cells that have to be programed these cells contain
1.graphics
2.sound
3.visuals
4.controll
5.tilt censer
6.online content
the wii processor is only one core simple to program and operate
this is why nintendo is going to have a lot of programmers for there console and not a whole lot for the ps3 right away
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oofRome
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2. November 2006 @ 21:55 |
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hahahhahah.
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3. November 2006 @ 17:47 |
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Isn't the wii processor just a supped up gekko? (GameCube 1.5)
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3. November 2006 @ 18:17 |
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Why do people post when they dont know what they are talking about? tabletpc?
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oofRome
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4. November 2006 @ 16:33 |
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5. November 2006 @ 05:47 |
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Originally posted by themind:
Why do people post when they dont know what they are talking about? tabletpc?
agreed half these people don't know there are other factors involved with CPU's
We don?t really know anything about the Wii CPU we don?t know how much L2 Cache it?s got, in fact no one knows the specs of the Wii everything is speculation.
But the Wii is not about power!
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mark5hs
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5. November 2006 @ 10:43 |
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the Wii proccesor pretty much is no comparison to the cell procesor, or the 360 procesor for that matter. I was a bit dissapointed when I heard about the processor and that wii would only have 64mb ram. hopefully its games make up for the shortcomings.
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currently playing: command and conquer 3, supreme commander, counter strike, shivering isles
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nolimit96
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5. November 2006 @ 12:17 |
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wow thats unbelieavly poor in terms of power, i have a feeling all the 3rd partys are going to start dropping working on the wii when the ps3 comes out becuase its going to be too much messing about porting games from the ps3/xbox360 to the wii powerwise and controller wise!!!!! And i bet its the usual suspects that drop off too - EA
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oofRome
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5. November 2006 @ 17:37 |
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Originally posted by nolimit96:
wow thats unbelieavly poor in terms of power, i have a feeling all the 3rd partys are going to start dropping working on the wii when the ps3 comes out becuase its going to be too much messing about porting games from the ps3/xbox360 to the wii powerwise and controller wise!!!!! And i bet its the usual suspects that drop off too - EA
I dont know. I read about select developers talking about how great the ps3 is and poor the wii hardware is (in comparison); but the majority of news I get about the ps3 is that it is losing dev support while Wii picks up more.
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MrGrimace
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5. November 2006 @ 17:44 |
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Don't forget that hertz aren't everything when dealing with processors. The Wii's processor is (I believe) a processor originally made for macs. These processors take a different route to power than Intel processors. Mac processors have a lower clock cycle than intels, but they can perform more operations per cycle.
IE: if a Intel machine wanted to multiply two floating point numbers it may take several clock cycles compared to a fewer number on the mac.
I am not saying that the Wii's processor is fast (it really can't be compared to things like cell) I am just saying do not judge it on hertz alone.
Also, tabletPC's programming structure for the Cell is not right. Each of the cells cores can be utilized for floating point operations (graphics) if required.
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6. November 2006 @ 08:59 |
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One of the main errors that I noticed with TabletPC's cell stats was:
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the ps3 processor has 6 cells that have to be programed
The cell(not plural) contains sub-microprocessors, not more cells(This wouldn't be a supercomputer, it would be a super-firestarter, as that would be enormous amounts of heat, lol). The individual microprocessors do not need to be'reprogrammed' for their functions, as the system is built in a way as to have game developers use this automatically, each processor has a specific function it is designated to, but theoretically(To be seen in final versions of hardware) a developer could choose to develop a game or program which might use them outside of the standards that Sony designates for regular usage; most companies won't touch this, but I would expect to see Team Ninja do it, as they're known for staying far outside of the box, so to speak.
Either way, no degree of 'programming' needed for this, aside from the same programming and development that goes into making a game on any other system. The only difference is designating processor threads; this is not a 'programming' of the chip(or sub processors) in any way; but a simple instruction of tellng the individual game that it needs to run certain functions on certain threads; to avoid packet errors. This is one of the reasons that some developers have come forward and openly stated that the ps3 is harder to program for; openly saying that with the minimal hardware difference, they feel they can do better faster on the 360, which is behind it by (what is now speculated, but not truly confirmable until final release) a marginal amount. Dual and triple core processing is wonderful, but it is truly to be seen whether or not making a total of SIX processing lines will really help a gaming system, compared to a triple core, like the 360. Honestly speaking, I can see graphics, AI, and sound. But really, the rest shouldn't be too much. The cell will allow a seperate processign thread for physics, which could be useful, but I debate how much that will *really* add to gaming that a triple core processor could not. Ultimately though, we can only wait and see; who knows, Sony might pull another Sony, and change the hardware specs less than a month from launch, like the PS2. Either way, the system will sell out before most people are awake, because Sony has such a limited number of units. And they will stay around, because they're Sony, and they've already said themselves:
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We could launch a playstation 3 without any games, and people would buy it because of the branding
...And this is why the company now sickens me.
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mark5hs
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6. November 2006 @ 13:19 |
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cell processor is 9 cores, not 6
X2 3800, A8n deluxe motherboard, 7800GT, Xion 2 case
2GB Patriot DDR 400, Audigy 2 ZS gamer, 400GB SATA RAID 0
games Im looking forward to: bioshock, SSBB, enemy territory quake wars, halo 3
currently playing: command and conquer 3, supreme commander, counter strike, shivering isles
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7. November 2006 @ 09:18 |
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Show me this from a reliable source, and I'll believe you.
Forgive me if this sounds rude, but I am very skeptical of a number higher than what I've heard everywhere else.
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oofRome
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7. November 2006 @ 11:04 |
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9. November 2006 @ 14:22 |
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Thank you, oofRome. I appreciate sourced info!
I am very interested in seeing the cell in action, because I'm a big supporter of multi-core theories in computing; but I never did hear how (or rather 'if') they fixed the heat problems they were having with the technology just under a year ago?
Do you have any info there? That would be awesome.
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10. November 2006 @ 23:35 |
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The new RISC 8800 CPU kicks the Cell CPU's but, the thing is the Cell CPU is not really 9 CPU's it just makes the OS think it is, plus its going to be a classic over heater!
The new HP RISC CPU has 3MB L1 cache and 32MB L2 cache, and only runs at 1GHz well its Dual Core so its 500Mhz x 2.
http://www.lostcircuits.com/cpu/hp_pa8800/
But its a massive £2000 worth of CPU!
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