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3. November 2006 @ 23:45 |
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Ok I'm buying FFIII for the DS but I can't help but think "yes its going to be a great game to play BUT!"
If they had though a little longer about it maybe FFIII should have been made for the Wii, then we would have a turn based RPG ready and waiting for the Wii, although FF games are needed on the DS I would have preferred to have a Online version on the Wii, were the job system comes to life online and were the game can be updated and new monsters and levels could have been added.
I know we have FF:CB coming but I've never really considered that a major FF, good games don't get me wrong but turn based FF like FFIII and even FFIV on the GBA are my kind of FF I think Wii should get an entire new build of FF.
What do you think?
I would like to see a remake of FFVII but I think lots of people would, but if they were to do it, it would have to be a patched version of FFVII I wouldn?t like to see the graphics changed too much maybe bigger and better CGI and a few extra things to do?
But I think an entire new FF for the Wii is needed. One that has the same feel as FFVII did back in the day so when people see the advert there completely amazed at what there seeing, and they feel they must go out a buy that game, emotion is strong in FFVII and I think that is key to a new brilliant FF.
You?re thoughts people!
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tabletpc
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4. November 2006 @ 00:05 |
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nintendo has already announced ff crystal cronicles 2
for the wii
and sqauresoft has announced they are not remaking ff7 the ff7 video was a demo of what the hardware could do on the ps3 but even that was a lie because most of the ps3 demos that where running at e3 where in fact running on 360 devolpment kits because sony had to work some bugs out of there system first
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4. November 2006 @ 07:05 |
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Lets hope crystal chronicals 2 will be better then the first because the first wasent that great..
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4. November 2006 @ 14:00 |
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Cristal chronicles was a great multiplayer experience, I played the game with 2 more friends and it was really fun, the game has great graphics and music too, I think the main drawback of the game was that you had to use a GBA to play in multi.
With some improvement and online Cristal Chronicles 2 could be a gorgeous game.
P.D: by the way, how did I become a junior member?
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4. November 2006 @ 16:37 |
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Originally posted by MsSunday:
by the way, how did I become a junior member?
By posting replies. :-)
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5. November 2006 @ 05:25 |
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Originally posted by tabletpc:
nintendo has already announced ff crystal cronicles 2
for the wii
and sqauresoft has announced they are not remaking ff7 the ff7 video was a demo of what the hardware could do on the ps3 but even that was a lie because most of the ps3 demos that where running at e3 where in fact running on 360 devolpment kits because sony had to work some bugs out of there system first
How much did Microsoft get paid for that? lol I did'nt know that! I know there not going to remake FFVII I was just saying it would be nce I should make myself more clear(sorry).
I just think a entire turn based FF should be on the Wii because I think that's were Square-Enix do best, FFIV on the GBA kicks butt I think it would be kool on the Wii, they don't have to do anything special with the control.
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5. November 2006 @ 06:29 |
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by the way, how did I become a junior member?
You posted 25+ posts.
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How much did Microsoft get paid for that?
Why would microsoft get paid?
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5. November 2006 @ 14:14 |
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also there where some good points with the ff crystal cronicles
1st great gameplay and very good challenges
2nd great idea to use the gba connection feature to control your character i hope that they do it again but this time with the ds using the touch screen
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6. November 2006 @ 11:09 |
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I get the feeling that Nintendo's online service will make various versions/ports of the FF titles available, and it would seem only a matter of time before we see ports like FFIII hit the download service, I for one, would go for it in a heartbeat, the new online delivery system that Nintendo uses sounds great.
Please don't get me wrong, I've been using XBL for some time now, but it is highly disorganized. Some categories are too broad, many items are double, triple or(on occasion) quadruple listed in different categories. It makes it very difficult to find the games/demos/trailers/etc that you are looking for, because it makes so little sense. I suspect that Nintendo will be much more organized, hopefully this is correct. The mess on XBL downloads is one of the reasons I completely lost interest in utilizing my 360 online; but hey, who knows how Nintendo will do, or if the 360; faced with PS3 as a next gen competitor will have to finally clean house.
I would *so* go for a Wii FF game, as long as there is *some* kind of update, as I have played through them before. A basic 3d engine like III is getting would more than suffice, I love the cute 3d style of it. It was a very good choice on Squenix' part; and I hope to see more of it.
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6. November 2006 @ 13:13 |
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Yeah multiplayer and online would be the bets parts to ff for the gc.
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7. November 2006 @ 10:08 |
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I disagree there. I don't think FF has ever been about the multiplayer. Some of them have had very limited, and useless multiplayer combat modes for coop, which ultimately change no element of the game at all.
As for FF:CC, I'm not saying it isn't a good game. What I am saying, is that you've faithfully followed Square's games; you'll note that it is FF in name only. In reality, the world follows much more closely to the Mana series, in many ways. Ironically, the mana series has had good co-op play for a long time, since the SNES to be exact. Much similar to the way that FF:CC plays. It is widely specualted that the title, the chocobos, and the moogles were a late decision made in development, to make it easy for square to keep a deal with Nintendo, promising an FF game on their console.
Like I said, this doesn't mean it was a bad game, I'm simply stating that the majority of development was never actually intended to be Final Fantasy, and really doesn't retain the feel at all. I honestly like the 'Mana' series, so it's not a bad thing; but it does change one's perspective on the series a tad. And like I said, there's nothing wrong with the game in question, or either series.
If anyone follows the FF series well, they might also note that Final Fantasy Legend, on the original Game Boy was the same way. It was designed as a 'Mana' title; and changed in American Translation to Final Fantasy, which was a series better known in the US at the time.
Really though, wouldn't mind a new, full-fledged Mana title. Even a re-release with crisper graphics could be fun, something like 'Sword of Mana' or soemthing, heck, even the PS1 'Legend of Mana' was good. But there were three on the SNES, so maybe we'll get those eventually, the Secret of Mana ones on that system were great as well.
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7. November 2006 @ 13:11 |
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Yeah the reason I said that though is because final fantasy on the gamecube wasent that good that was one of the few only good qualities about it for a ps2 version of any ff it wouldent be about the multiplaye more baout the gameplay, graphics, story.
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7. November 2006 @ 13:52 |
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Agreed. :D
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8. November 2006 @ 13:23 |
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Good! Now lets hope this final fantasy for the gc is good because it have to compare against the newest final fntasy for the ps2 and the one coming out for the ps3...
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8. November 2006 @ 15:37 |
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You mean the one for Wii, right? In truth, it won't stand against them in any way, shape or form. Not because of a quality difference, but because it wasn't designed for the same kind of play at all. It's like comparing Halo to Mario Kart. One is heavily turn based, with a long single player driven story, the other is a comparably short multi-player romp(Even alone it's the same) through an area designed for live combat and quick fun, rather than deep plot.
As for the PS2 one, it is getting startlingly good reviews, despite first impressions, so it's going to be hard to beat. The PS3 one? Well.... Square's first title or two on the PS1 and then the PS2 weren't very good.... And while I'm certainly about to bring all cain down upon myself for saying this, I don't think their first PS3 title looks like it's going to be very good either, it honestly seems way too rushed, on top of their curse with new systems.
In case someone wants reference to bad PS1 games, they started with a dissapointing xenosaga game, and then Einhander. Even after FFVII, they proceeded to release Ehrgeiz, a fighting game that most gamers found frustrating to a crippling degree.
PS2 did a little better, but not a huge amount, 'The Bouncer' was at least a playable title that I was okay with finishing. When you compare it to titles they had released on the system before, like FFVII and FFIX, it couldn't hold up. More than a year after launch, they released FFX, which was a solid RPG title, and from there, they've been good, excepting 'Unlimited Saga' a poor follow up to a little-known, but good PS1 series.
I'd like nothing more than for them to do a good FFXIII, because I'm a fan of the series, but they've historically had bad luck on new systems, and sadly I maintain that opinion in regards to the GC release of FF, I was dissapointed, because it felt.... off. I hope this is improved in the Wii release, and seeing as they're keeping the formula, they may very well do this, being the program code is so much similar.
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9. November 2006 @ 12:38 |
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Well I meant the one for ps2 being good and the one for ps3 is probably going to be good and for the gamecube I dont really like it so Im hoping the next one for gamecube is better.
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9. November 2006 @ 15:35 |
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I thought the FFCC sequal was going exclusively on the Wii? Am I wrong about that?
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10. November 2006 @ 16:11 |
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Oh im sorry I see why you got confused I meant the ff for the wii when you were thinking that and the ff for gamecube when you were thinking that hoped that heled....
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13. November 2006 @ 16:03 |
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Yay! I understand again! :D
But yeah, I have hopes for it, and am curious how the controller will be used for it; since square has never been one to give in to new methods of play before... The stylus on the DS is one thing, but the Wii remote is a completely new beast, so it raises my interest to see if they'll really utilize it.
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13. November 2006 @ 16:23 |
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If they had though a little longer about it maybe FFIII should have been made for the Wii, then we would have a turn based RPG ready and waiting for the Wii, although FF games are needed on the DS I would have preferred to have a Online version on the Wii, were the job system comes to life online and were the game can be updated and new monsters and levels could have been added.
Id have to disagree with you. the standards for an RPG on a handheld are much lower than on a console. FFIII is a pretty old game and if it came out for Wii, not matter how much extra content they threw in, it porbably would not be able to compete with the newer ones, ie: X, X-2. and XII. If they made a new, full effort, exclusive final fantasy game for the Wii, it would be great.
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13. November 2006 @ 22:21 |
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[quote]If they had though a little longer about it maybe FFIII should have been made for the Wii, then we would have a turn based RPG ready and waiting for the Wii, although FF games are needed on the DS I would have preferred to have a Online version on the Wii, were the job system comes to life online and were the game can be updated and new monsters and levels could have been added.
Id have to disagree with you. the standards for an RPG on a handheld are much lower than on a console. FFIII is a pretty old game and if it came out for Wii, not matter how much extra content they threw in, it porbably would not be able to compete with the newer ones, ie: X, X-2. and XII. If they made a new, full effort, exclusive final fantasy game for the Wii, it would be great.[/quote]So you would agree if I say I think there should be an entire new build of FF for the Wii?
I can live with that, its just the reason I said that game is because they have just re made it into a lush DS title, just maybe thay should have made it into a lush Wii title.
But an entire new FF is needed for the Wii, I'm getting kinde of tired of remakes are you?
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14. November 2006 @ 15:30 |
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A re-release of a FF game for the Wii could work... In certain ways.
As a newly sold in-store $40-$50 title; it would fail MISERABLY.
As a $30 compilation of at least two FF games.... Maybe. But people grew tired of this even on the PS1.
My personal theory though, is different. I think they should release it on the Wii Store, as a downloadable game, for a cheaper price. If they re-do it, they could ask 10-20 for it. They take in less on the immediate basis; but they also don't have to print manuals, inserts, cases, and make disc media. So they're not spending anything on production manufacturing. They would be able to afford a lower price point; while still making the same profit, and I think that users would be more willing to get it as a discounted online title that way.
I'm not suggesting it be released as a full console game, just a download type title. I anticipate that in time, Nintendo will start having all-new titles downloadable on the system, much in the same way as XBox Live Arcade. It makes good sense.
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14. November 2006 @ 15:36 |
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why do you think I new one would fail miserably, handsom? FF has always been a killer app, and Wii could always use some more killer apps.
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games Im looking forward to: bioshock, SSBB, enemy territory quake wars, halo 3
currently playing: command and conquer 3, supreme commander, counter strike, shivering isles
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14. November 2006 @ 16:15 |
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Well; two things:
I didn't say a NEW FF would fail. I said a re-release sold in stores for full price would. And I stand by that. Traditionally, FF re-releases have not been big sellers on consoles, occasionally on portables they do well, but that's a portable.
As far as a NEW FF; I think it could succeed very well. However, I do not consider crystal chronicles to be a legitimate FF title, it plays more like gauntlet, and bears little resemblence to the series it lays claim to. It is no more Final Fantasy than Mystic Quest, FFII on the SNES,or FF:Legend for the GB. They were all designed as different titles, but the FF name was slapped on at the last minute.
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