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20. December 2005 @ 19:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I would definately keep a HD page file with 1g of memory.

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20. December 2005 @ 19:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Sophocles

It's the Soyo Dragon KT880 2 v2.0. The Ram config uses dual channel in one of either three setups.

Channel A (slots 1,3), channel B (slots 2,4), or with all 4 slots filled. Basically, only dual mode when an even number of slots is filled. The performance decrease isn't that much to cry about, it's just a bummer that the mode isn't set to function with only three slots like the Gigabyte board is.

The board runs very well, booted on first start up...no issues. Set the system specs manually including all voltages, FSB settings...core frequency. Just had to disable a buttload of options since I am not using any Raid setups, or mass storage devices. The board officially supports up to 12 devices internally. 8 on the IDE channels, and 4 SATA...all native. I am only using 4. I'll eventually put all the devices on their own channel.

Going to install Sandra and give it a few test runs. I'll post the results.
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To Sophocles,

I have a few questions regarding your motherboard. Does yours have the fanless cooling system as shown on the current A8N32SLI Deluxe? I assume that this is for the chipset only? What CPU cooler would you recomend for An Athlon 64x2 4400+ on this MB? Will my PNY Optima PC3200 memory be good enough for this setup? I plan to make the new one 2 gigs and I can get this memory now for a reasonable price. Would I be better off with 2 1Gb sticks or 4 512s (I have 2 512s now)? I understand that there is faster memory available. Would my new system benefit from this or would it be unsupported and just run at 400Mhz?

Thanking you in Advance,
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20. December 2005 @ 20:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, so much for the Sandra results. They couldn't have been more off for this board.

Temps were read wrong, no BIOS information (all said "to be filled in by OEM) even though BIOS Agent read the info. Temps didn't jive with Speedfan, or BIOS readings...said all memory slots were full, when only three are...even mentioned that some services were disabled, when they weren't!! Hadn't tweaked them yet.
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20. December 2005 @ 20:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Morph416

I'd like to see the results anyway, just as they are.Messed up results are the most fun to analyze. Now your specs are especially interesting.

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20. December 2005 @ 21:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
wow thats alot to change page file....easier to take two 250gb hard drives like i did,put them in raid 0.then put windows on 20gb partition and make little logical drives out of the rest....my speed is amazing....boot from windows and back again in 3 to 5 seconds cant ask for more.....gameplay is unreal on this bad boy....i guess when you dont have much hard drive space you have to worry about the page file....i couldnt be bothered....lol...peace

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20. December 2005 @ 21:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
theonejrs thats my mobo,

i would go with watercooled unless you want to hear a racket...lol...i have a asus star ice hs\fan and it keeps this 3700+ real cool about 37c idle about 45c loaded gaming for hours but then again i have this hs running at 5000 rpms and screaming all day...peace




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21. December 2005 @ 02:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
rugripper,

The main reason for losing the paging file on the HD is that memory is a thousand times faster than your Raid 0. This speeds up the page file and speeds up the computer.

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21. December 2005 @ 04:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
rugripper


What 6402 said.

No hard disk configuration can match the speed of memory only. I don't really need to disable my paging file because Windows doesn't use it that often on a system with 2 gigs of RAM. I disable it from time to time see how much it takes to crash my system and it takes quite a lot. For example, Nero is a RAM pig and so are de fragment application. I ran Nero, diskeeper, and surfed the net at the same time without crashing.

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21. December 2005 @ 06:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
oh thats funny soph...crash that bitch...lmao...so really disabling pagefile with 2gb or even the 1 gb i have is sort of senceless then.thats what i thought.i heard there making a 1mb kit with a cas of 1/1.5 timing of 225 which is unbelievably fast but so is the price of them.here they are:



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21. December 2005 @ 08:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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If the price would come down I'd get one of these to install windows and for the paging file.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/12/05/hyperos_dram_hard_drive_on...

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21. December 2005 @ 09:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
When posting your benchmarks also include your memory bandwidth.











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21. December 2005 @ 09:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey soph,

that ram drive is awesome....never saw that before...im wetting my trousers just looking at it....lmao....thx for teaching me imaging,its pretty kool.....hows that geil though? pretty sweet huh?....peace


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21. December 2005 @ 10:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
rugripper

Just imagine an 8 gig RAM drive with windows and your paging file on it and everything else running on three 74 gig Raptors in a RAID O. LOL

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yeah man what a dream at $2000 for all that ram.that would be a pretty site though....hey dude,i know, you can sent it to me for christmas...lmao....what a rig that would be....crazy fast...peace

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21. December 2005 @ 10:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
rugripper

They're going to get larger and come down in price in time. I suppose I shouldn't complain, I never hear my hard disk working already, but they are sweet.

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Sup, Well my stuff is in, I get it in 4 days!!!
Yeah!!!

Any suggestions on optimizing it without ness overclocking it??

Thanx,
Triock

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21. December 2005 @ 10:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
whats you got trilock?

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21. December 2005 @ 14:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmm! trilock, I like it better than Triock.

Triock let us know how everything goes.

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21. December 2005 @ 14:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
rugripper


Hey buddy where are those benchmarks?

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21. December 2005 @ 14:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah right....lmao....i did a 4mb page file on hard drive much faster...thx again...peace...

btw working on that ram drive....lmao...put in the order to santa...lol

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21. December 2005 @ 14:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
rugripper

I put in an order to Santa for one of those RAM drives myself. I think that I'll be waiting a while. LOL

If you're having problems posting your bench marks then send them to me and I'll do it for you.

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21. December 2005 @ 15:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
no soph....
one of my rams craped out on me about a week ago so ocz replaced it,,,,one of the new modules was bad....you belive that...then they said it cant be they checked it....they are so full of christmas cheer....lol...come to find out,when they got it back and tested it,one was bad ,you believe that shit...lol... i was right so now they are sending a new one out to me ...have it hopefully by the weekend....dont worry you will see numbers...high numbers...2900mhz numbers....@1T...lol....peace

btw i didnt forget...lol...just stalling a little...lol


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21. December 2005 @ 16:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
rugripper


It doesn't have to be with the wow and incredible results. Morph416 listed a barton core bench and although it's dated, it's still a damn nice system.

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