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Help - What Blank DVD disc is better? DVD-R or DVD+R
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RedMatt
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19. November 2006 @ 20:20 |
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Help - What Blank DVD disc is better? DVD-R or DVD+R.
I know about the Speed and that.
I am asking if any one knows what kind is better?
I have use both before.
some people say one plays better in more DVD Players.
what kind works better in DVD Players and a Playstation.2.
I know this might be a silly thing to ask. I am new to This.
thank you
- RedMatt
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poolpro
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19. November 2006 @ 21:03 |
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Well DVD-R is an older format so therefore many people go with the +R's instead because they can be booktyped to DVD-Rom's. It is easier for most DVD players to r3ecognize +R's than -R's.
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19. November 2006 @ 22:59 |
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The reverse has traditionally been true: -R is more widely-supported. But +R is theoretically better. See: www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/Why-DVDRW-is-superior-to-DVD-RW.html
Booktyping might help with players that won't recognize any recordable format. Then again, reflectivity differences between pressed media and recorded media are a bigger concern than booktyping.
Some people just swear by one or the other.
-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
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Adamontar
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20. November 2006 @ 00:25 |
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when it comes to quality means their is no difference between DVD-R and DVD+R.
Dvd+r has the ability that you can add extra data to the disc once it has been burned, but this is only if its not full. The reason for the plus sign is basically + add more data.
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20. November 2006 @ 05:38 |
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Originally posted by Adamontar:
when it comes to quality means their is no difference between DVD-R and DVD+R.
Dvd+r has the ability that you can add extra data to the disc once it has been burned, but this is only if its not full. The reason for the plus sign is basically + add more data.
Where in the world did you get that information?
That is completely and utterly untrue. You can add more data to DVD-R or DVD+R if the DVD is not finalized and can hold the data you want to add.
The difference pretty much is the way the information is wrote to the DVD. In a way DVD-R and DVD+R would be like back in the day when there was VHS tapes and Beta Tapes. Both pretty much did the same thing but each had their own backers.
Some of the differences that I have read in articles are...
DVD+R tend to have faster burn speeds.
DVD+R can be booktyped for better compatibility for players.
DVD-R seems to have the leading edge on Standalone DVD player compatibility.
To be honest with you it can be frustrating when reading about the differences and what 1 is better then the other. Because it truly just depends on what format you prefer to use yourself. I read articles that say DVD+R are superior then the next article I read claims that DVD-R is superior.
So I would suggest if your DVD burner and players are compatible with both formats to try both formats with High Quality media and see which you like best. If your DVD Burner/Stand Alone Player supports only 1 of the formats then pretty much the choice has already been made for you.
If your planing on purchasing a DVD burner then i would recommend to buy a burner that burns both DVD-R and DVD+R formats.
I myself use both types. I have my Xbox/Gamecube/PS2 modded and each of those work best with different formats. Xbox will use either or, Gamecube works best with DVD+R media and my PS2 works best with DVD-R media.
Same with my standalone DVD Players. I have 2 players that will only play DVD-R media and the other will play either or. So it pretty much comes down to compatibility when finding out what format would be best to use.
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JoeRyan
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20. November 2006 @ 13:31 |
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There is no difference in quality between the two formats. They differ in that DVD-R uses land pre-pits for an address system while DVD+R uses a high frequency modulated signal for the same thing. (There is a big difference in +RW and -RW, though, because +RW can work equally well with video and data while -RW is a sequential video format. Most people don't care enough about either; so I won't go into details.)
DVD-R is supported by the DVD Forum and conforms to Forum rules. Forum members, notably Pioneer and Panasonic, sell the most stand-alone recorders; and that is why those recorders work almost exclusively with DVD-R. Philips is more lenient with its licensing, so there are more lesser-known brands supporting DVD+R. When certain Forum members intentionally blocked the use of DVD+R in their recorders and players because of DVD Forum "violations," some drive manufacturers violated the rules further by allowing +R/+RW drives to falsify the identity of the discs with a bit-setting change to "DVD-ROM." This falsification allowed use of +R/+RW discs in the players that excluded them before and also in the use of older players that did not understand writable DVDs.
There is some very deep theoretical technical advantages that the use of DVD+R/+RW ADIP has over the system used by DVD-R, but the explanation is over most people's heads. A further disadvantage of DVD-R discs is that they have to be initialized at the factory, which means each one has already been in a recording drive once before it gets packaged.
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20. November 2006 @ 19:38 |
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Just be sure not to use memorex discs.
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kevinko
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21. November 2006 @ 03:24 |
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i prefer DVD+R, i have a burner that can booktype the +r's into dvd-rom and it has played on everything i put it in. DVD-R and DVD+R are basically the same but a dvd-rom is better, because it has the higher compatibility. and since you can booktype a DVD+R to make it a dvd-rom, then i'd say a DVD+R is the better and more compatible of the 2 IMO
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steveo129
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21. November 2006 @ 16:11 |
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just use the one cheapest....
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21. November 2006 @ 16:28 |
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Just use Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden or Ritek, whichever your burner-stand alone combo like the best.
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21. November 2006 @ 17:07 |
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just use the one cheapest....
Now thats not real good advice, especially if you want your "project" to be useable a few months down the track.
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21. November 2006 @ 23:26 |
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Originally posted by steveo129:
just use the one cheapest....
- that's really bad, awful advice....
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22. November 2006 @ 00:48 |
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Help - What Blank DVD disc is better? DVD-R or DVD+R.
Another week, same repeated question and here we go again. I'll take any DVD+R over any DVD-R any day, any time.
Smart burning:
<> any high quality DVD+R booktyped to DVD-ROM and you're free of worries.
High quality I recommend:
<> Taiyo Yuden (Made In Japan)
<> Verbatim
<> Hitachi Maxell (Made In Japan)
The rest, you can scrap them. However, the choice is yours.
Regards
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JoeRyan
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22. November 2006 @ 06:09 |
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Hitachi Maxell CD-R and DVD+/-R media will soon be made in Taiwan by Ritek. The Maxell factory will concentrate on manufacturing blue laser discs instead. If Ritek uses the same stampers that Maxell uses with the identical MID codes, there will be little to no quality difference between the media made in Japan and the media made in Taiwan.
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22. November 2006 @ 13:15 |
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Originally posted by RedMatt:
Help - What Blank DVD disc is better? DVD-R or DVD+R.
I know about the Speed and that.
I am asking if any one knows what kind is better?
I have use both before.
some people say one plays better in more DVD Players.
what kind works better in DVD Players and a Playstation.2.
I know this might be a silly thing to ask. I am new to This.
thank you
- RedMatt
In older PS2, Tyg02 Taiyo Yuden (x8 dvd-), New models not much difference between Taiyo Yuden and MCC004 verbatim (x16 dvd+).
Benq burners 1650, 1655 capable of booktype (Q-suite)
In my experience with movies Verbatim MCC004 booktyped to DVD-Rom have never failed me yet.
But best scan results (and continue to be so) were with Verbatim x8 DVD-R made by Taiyo yuden.
In the end its not an exact science, nor is typing when you've had a tipple, for which I apologise. :D
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22. November 2006 @ 15:29 |
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What Blank DVD disc is better? DVD-R or DVD+R.
Depends on all your stand alone players,pc drives,and game consoles-any drive that you plan on playing your backups in. They are the drives that will determine which format you'll use,so you may want to try both plus and dash and see which format suits your needs.
Media quality is the most critical part of dvd backups. For the best playback,quality media is a must: Taiyo yuden,Verbatim, and Hitachi Maxells are some of the best out there.
My answer:
Booktyping capable-quality drives like Benq/Plextor/LG/Lite-on/and some others: Plus format,booktyped to dvd-rom for the highest compability rate.
Non booktyping drives: Definitely the dash format.
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23. November 2006 @ 05:48 |
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You should also take into account which type your burner likes better. For example my old Sony burner always gave me better burns with -R media, but my Pioneer is just the opposite so I always use +R even though I can't bitset with it.
And as others have mentioned, in the end the most important thing is the quality of the media. I stick to TY.
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23. November 2006 @ 07:24 |
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I always use the +r mainly because I started with Philips machines and Philips invented with Sony, I think, the +r format. aD members always recommend discs made in Japan, but over here in the UK, all discs seem to come from Taiwan.
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23. November 2006 @ 07:29 |
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Originally posted by Altercuno:
aD members always recommend discs made in Japan, but over here in the UK, all discs seem to come from Taiwan.
not at all, we have Japanese made discs here in UK too, especially if you use reputable sites such as http://www.svp.co.uk
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23. November 2006 @ 07:38 |
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Thanks Creaky. I have used SVP before to get Verbatim +RW discs but cant recall where they were made. I use Sony +R from Taiwan and they seem ok - so far.
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