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10. July 2008 @ 00:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Russ
check your pm.

for everyone....i am sorry for going off like i did. i shouldnt have done that. i am sorry to you Russ for saying that in public i should have sent you a pm, as i just did. ive spent all day thinking about what i said and i shouldnt have.

WE ALL need ot just think before we post something like that. it was my fault, i took Russ's statement out of context. my bad.

its agreat place here with good people. we all have our own ideas and thoughts. we need to take others ideas and thought into consideration..... teach or learn. help out the best ya can if ya cant the just support what other are trying to do.

this is all of our hobbies building puters it is fun when you can share your efforts and it should stay that way. not a pissing war every other post.

Russ please you dont need to stop posting thats not gonna help anything. please except my appologies
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10. July 2008 @ 00:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Cincy Said=
Originally posted by cincyrob:
beat me to it mort. the cosmos s 1100 does have the front fan installed. its setup just like the RC590. has a carriage in front for the HDD's and fan
i can vorch for that my rc590 has the 120mm mounted to the carriage and blows right over my hards..and it pulls out for easy install of hard drives..

@CincyRob
thanks for filling me in on that..i did'nt even pay attention that it was like my case only different then it don't have side panel vents..for more air flow

@rick5446
heck with it get the cosmos just get a cooler with a good 120mm with good cfm and a low dba your not goin to oc it so you should be fine..
and if you do send the side panel to me..I'll customize it..with so 120mm's and a clear side..

@theonejrs
man you better not leave..you and cincy need to crack a budweiser open and toast to forgivness..

Attention all my E6750 has been backed down from 3.6 to 3.0 running memory tight at 4-4-4-12 again..lol..i thought let you know..

Done out of Here!

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Yeah well, at his current health level he should probably stay away from Alcohol.
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10. July 2008 @ 01:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by rick5446:
Well what do the HDD fans do, other then move air around. They are neither intake or exaust. I can't quite cope what your getting at with these fans, other then cooling HDD
rick,

there is a grill on the front of the case and this hdd fan w/ optional bracket goes either in front or behind the hdds and is intake from the front.

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10. July 2008 @ 01:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
you would need to buy the bracket and a 120mm x 120mm x 25mm fan and it would serve as intake for the front and cool the hdd's as well. you might be able to put 2 in the front.

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rick I personally would go with something a little less expensive and with side panel vents. ;) IIRC the Cosmos doesn't have side panel vents and it makes sense to me for the extra ventilation if you can get it. ;) The more air you can run thru your system for "usable" cooling the better off you are. :) If going with the Cosmos for both air and water cooling it seems like a good case. jm2c there. :)

The 590 or 690 are good cases... I have the 690 and it moves plenty of air.. :)

NZXT Tempest L@@KY here and see the "coolness" afforded by bunches of fans. :) Remember you can always NOT plug one (fan) in or just take it off if it seems to be in the way. :)

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10. July 2008 @ 02:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
All this is just to confusing to me ! I think I'll just go with a cheaper case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119129
COOLER MASTER Mystique RC-632S-KKN1-GP Black Aluminum/ SECC ATX Mid
$79.99 3 Business Day Shipping $14.99
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10. July 2008 @ 06:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I too am retiring from the mainstream (Pc building thread, overclocking thread), but temporarily, and I hope that will also be the case with theone. He's got a good point, Russ has been unwell before, and when you're in that situation, you don't need the stress of being involved with arguments between people you know, even if you didn't start them.

I think a major cooldown is needed.
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10. July 2008 @ 07:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If Russ, Sam and Rob are leaving I'm leaving too!


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..but now who am i going to tease when next i buy (even) more hard drives!



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10. July 2008 @ 07:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well, i know when i am licked, time to join the mass exodus bandwagon :)



HAHA.

good luck russ in your future endeavours, i wish you all the best, but yuo will be a big loss, who apart from sam is goign to battle for GB anymore? we shall all become ASUS (your nightmare is ALIVE!!! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH) :P

keep us posted though once in a while when you have system changes :) or even more priority, how you are, and what your up to :)


and sam, LEAVE, JUST LEAVE, WE HATE YOU ANYWAYS, THIS CALLS FOR CELEBRATIONS :P


no im kidding, hurry up and be back soon. (and tidy up your cable management. your not allowed back until you do)


ok, now to computer building.

i have £300 to spend:

now my specs are

E2140 @ 3GHz
P5K-E
x2900GT
akasa zen
17" monitor
tagan 430W U15
320GB HDD (samsung 2x160GB platters)


now i am thinking of spending about £220 on a Yakura/DGM PVA 24" monitor.

now abviously the x2900GT wont keep up, so should i wait a little and get a 4850 (saving up some more money) OR do i upgrade my PSU and game at a lower res. this is becuase i am sure my horrible Vdoorps and random Voltage increaces/decreaces is due to my second hand 3 year old PSU.



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10. July 2008 @ 07:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
IM not going any where. you goofballs cant get rid of me. its to addictive being here. i cant stay away for more than a hour.

seriously everyone. it is fun here there is alot of info each and everyone of us have to share with one another. we all might stray from the original thought of each and every thread we post in cause so many do cross one another some how. we just need to keep in mind what thread we are in and stick to that topic. i konw im one to wonder off the general topic, mainly cause its so easy to do. there is but a handful o f people that do the most of the posting and in all the same threads so why go to the other threads to ask when i can ask here. i need to stop that.

it has been said before this is a PC building thread not a INTEL building thread. we all are guilty of shooting someone down for saying AMD.it shouldnt be that way. i doubt most of us i know i dont know anyhting about AMD so i cant and dont comment on it.
we/i should encourage someone to try AMD. if they have a limited budget and want to try AMD then we should help them find what they want/need not what we want them to get in INTEL products.

thats just my thinking on the situation in hand. if im wrong im wrong so be it. but i tink there is more truth in it that stated.


yes me and Russ have talked. neither of us are mad at one another and this is past us. as it should be with everyone else.
I'm done saying sorry, lets start haven fun again and not worrying about stupid stuff that dont help anything.

Loco
your not going anywhere we wouldnt have the town slacker if you did.

Creaky
you dont need any more hdd's. send them to me i need a few more.

ddp
good to see ya posting and not throwing lighting around.

Everyone
let have fun and help one another and stop the BS and enjoy the site.
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
now i am thinking of spending about £220 on a Yakura/DGM PVA 24" monitor.

now abviously the x2900GT wont keep up, so should i wait a little and get a 4850 (saving up some more money) OR do i upgrade my PSU and game at a lower res. this is becuase i am sure my horrible Vdoorps and random Voltage increaces/decreaces is due to my second hand 3 year old PSU.
well you wouldnt be able to use that new 24in monitor to its full benifits with that older PSU. the smart thing would to be is a new better PSU first

hope this is the right place for you guys accross the big pond
http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=446787
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Originally posted by rick5446:
All this is just to confusing to me ! I think I'll just go with a cheaper case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119129
COOLER MASTER Mystique RC-632S-KKN1-GP Black Aluminum/ SECC ATX Mid
$79.99 3 Business Day Shipping $14.99
rick that's a dandy case! Morty has one of those and loves it... BUT he has retired it for a Cooler Master 830 Evo.... VERY nice case and expensive to boot. ;) You'll like the Mystique and so will your teenage nephew. ;)

I like the layout of the Mystique and the features. Just remember if you're NOT gonna OC then you can use almost any case that has "decent" air flow. :D good luck sticking with your selection. :)

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actually i have found that monitor for £200, so i now have £100.

im sure my PSU is on the fritz, so for ym safety, for my PC's safety, and for my family's safety, i think i will upgrade it.

i think i am going to go for this:

http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=801620 because i get free postage as i am a participating member of another forum :)

then hopefully in august, i can use my student loans for a nice overhaul

antec 1200 x1
HIS ICEQ 4850 x2
Asus X48 Rampage x1
Q6600 x1
1TB samsung F1 x1
300GB Velociraptor x1
Noctua NH-U12P x1
4GB (2x2GB) Geil black Dragon PC6400 RAM x1

that should come to about
(btw the sapphire card is there is jsut for the price, the HIS ICEQ versions are not our yet)







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10. July 2008 @ 08:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
shaffaf, you left off a half dozen optical drives.


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10. July 2008 @ 09:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lol - what is it with afterdawn and their optical drives?
The Sapphire 4850s should be fine, they're still the reference design - not the god awful thing they turned the 3870 into...



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10. July 2008 @ 09:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
gotta have plenty of options to burn with. dont we GM.thats GM=General Manager of ODD( yea i ment ODD)
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10. July 2008 @ 09:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well i ordered the monitor, and the PSU for £300 right now :)

and EMA came through with £100 bonus for me, so now i am just waiting for the ICEQ 4850s to come through. yey meeeeee :)

and as for ODDs, i already have one. i dont use it often, as i dont burn much becuase i connect my HDD straight onto my TV :)

when i get this monitor and PSU, ill post some pictures.



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10. July 2008 @ 09:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ah, using educational grants for PC parts. Great isn't it? lol




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its funded my whole hobby HAHA



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How much interest do you have to pay on your student loans?
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None. :)



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the "interest" rises with inflation, so you aare paying none at all. its the cheapest loan you will EVER get.



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lol

If it's a no interest loan, then by all means abuse it haha.
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