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can Nero and Roxio coexist on one computer?
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30. November 2006 @ 03:30 |
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ok.... I've been experimenting whether both of these programs can exist on the same computer. I needed Roxio because I wanted to use a packet writing program so I can backup my Quicken files...... my computer wouldn't format the CD-RW disk so I couldn't backup my computer. Sooooo I installed Roxio.... don't need the other programs but I used the Drag and Drop program so now I can backup my files to CD with a CD-RW disk. success. oh boy... now I thought I screwed up my DVD writing with Nero. Well...... so far so good...... I never had an unsuccessful burn from Nero and the record is still clean! Both are coexisting nicely. does anyone else have this or is this unusual..... I have been telling Newbies that you shouldn't have both programs on the computer because of the packet writing interference because that's what I was taught here. But now I have experience with both and after about 10 successful burns with both programs existing at the same time.... I'm ready to rethink my advise. Here's a log:
Version: 2.2.6.17
IHoe
1A
Project type: Remake a DVD
Target size: DVD5 (2282925)
19:40:10 File LangStreamPatcher.cpp, Line 56
Command table patching started...
19:40:10 File LangStreamPatcher.cpp, Line 133
All tables successfully patched!
Burn settings:
Target: BENQ DVD LS DW1655
Number of copies: 1
Write speed: 11080 KB/s
Temp folder: C:\Documents and Settings\Ivan Richman\My Documents\Nero Recode (203286036480 bytes free)
Direct burning: false
Target media: DVD+R/RW, DVD-R/RW, DVD-RAM, DVD-R DL, DVD+R DL
Shutdown when finished: false
Advanced Analysis: true
Compress Adaptive: true
19:40:21 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 231
Compile DVD: init
VTS_01 Title Vobs [10678 vobus] 3736.84MB -> 2197.10MB [R 0.38]
Video: 2048.59MB, extra: 148.51MB
Audio: 1 streams
0. 0. Dolby Digital 1-ch English 127.65MB [enabled]
Subpicture: 8 streams
0. 0. English 4.01MB [disabled]
1. 1. French 4.23MB [disabled]
2. 2. Spanish 4.02MB [disabled]
3. 3. Portuguese 6.12MB [disabled]
4. 4. Chinese 5.99MB [disabled]
5. 5. Unspecified 4.44MB [disabled]
6. 6. Thai 3.40MB [disabled]
7. 7. Korean 2.75MB [disabled]
VTS_02 Title Vobs [10808 vobus] 3788.44MB -> 2261.49MB [R 0.38]
Video: 2111.63MB, extra: 149.86MB
Audio: 1 streams
0. 0. Dolby Digital 1-ch English 128.75MB [enabled]
Subpicture: 8 streams
0. 0. English 3.04MB [disabled]
1. 1. French 2.86MB [disabled]
2. 2. Spanish 2.44MB [disabled]
3. 3. Portuguese 2.63MB [disabled]
4. 4. Chinese 4.76MB [disabled]
5. 5. Unspecified 3.23MB [disabled]
6. 6. Thai 5.01MB [disabled]
7. 7. Korean 2.83MB [disabled]
19:40:22 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1152
Compile DVD: begin copy 1
19:40:22 File NeroRecorderBase.cpp, Line 488
Writing to disc: DVD+R
19:40:22 File NeroRecorderBase.cpp, Line 502
Free capacity on disc: 2283088 sectors (2295104)
19:40:22 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 684
Compile DVD: begin deep analysis
21:09:24 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 479
Compile DVD: burning 2283088 sectors (2282925 required)
21:09:24 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 656
Compile DVD: adjust target size to 4459.16MB (4459.16MB obtained)
21:09:24 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 524
Compiling DVD Volume started
21:16:08 File NeroRecorder.cpp, Line 593
Added extra file VTS_01_2.VOB
21:22:42 File NeroRecorder.cpp, Line 593
Added extra file VTS_01_3.VOB
21:23:19 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1058
Compile DVD: finished VTS_01 Title Vobs
VTS_01 Title Vobs:
Original 3736.84MB -> Expected 2206.55MB -> Output 2206.56MB
Finished error 0.00MB
Ratio encoded = 10674
Original encoded = 4
Slide encoded = 0
StillImage encoded = 0
Output extra size = 145.19MB
Source video size = 3555.74MB
Pictures Modified [I 10640] [P 31897] [B 85441]
21:29:55 File NeroRecorder.cpp, Line 593
Added extra file VTS_02_2.VOB
21:36:14 File NeroRecorder.cpp, Line 593
Added extra file VTS_02_3.VOB
21:37:03 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1058
Compile DVD: finished VTS_02 Title Vobs
VTS_02 Title Vobs:
Original 3788.44MB -> Expected 2252.36MB -> Output 2252.36MB
Finished error -0.00MB
Ratio encoded = 10798
Original encoded = 10
Slide encoded = 0
StillImage encoded = 0
Output extra size = 146.97MB
Source video size = 3612.80MB
Pictures Modified [I 10709] [P 32104] [B 86389]
21:37:03 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 547
Compile DVD: completed successfuly (4459.15MB)
21:37:03 File NeroRecorderBase.cpp, Line 1096
Burning 12 files with total size of 4675762176 bytes on hard disk
21:37:03 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1152
Compile DVD: begin copy 1
1A
Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.57 (1008), size=48128 bytes, created 12/22/1997 7:23:24 PM
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\NeroVision\NeroFiles\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 5:35:34 PM
Nero API version: 6.6.0.18
Using interface version: 6.6.0.9
Installed in: C:\Program Files\Ahead\NeroVision\NeroFiles\
Application: Ahead\Nero Recode
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 18e
Recorder: <BENQ DVD LS DW1655> Version: BCIB - HA 3 TA 2 - 6.6.0.18
Adapter driver: <> HA 3
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ARRAY iaStor Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8163B atapi Port 2 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8631 atapi Port 2 ID 1 DMA: On
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8163B D: CDRom0
PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8631 E: CDRom1
BENQ DVD LS DW1655 F: CDRom4
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AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 2046MB (2095184kB)
Free physical memory: 1243MB (1273356kB)
Memory in use : 39
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
29.11.2006
NeroAPI
9:37:03 PM #1 Phase 112 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
DVD-Video files reallocation started
9:37:03 PM #2 Phase 114 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)
9:37:03 PM #3 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
DVD-Video files sorted
9:37:03 PM #4 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running
9:37:03 PM #5 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer BENQ DVD LS DW1655 running
9:37:03 PM #6 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
9:37:03 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
9:37:03 PM #8 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
9:37:04 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 2283631 (507:28.31, 4460MB)
9:37:04 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)
9:37:04 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
Recorder: BENQ DVD LS DW1655, Media type: DVD+R
9:37:04 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
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9:37:04 PM #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2283632 (2283632) = #2283632/507:28.32
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2283632 blocks [BENQ DVD LS DW1655]
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9:37:04 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
Prepare recorder [BENQ DVD LS DW1655] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4676878336, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2283632 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
9:37:05 PM #15 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Caching of files started
9:37:05 PM #16 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4122
Cache writing successful.
9:37:05 PM #17 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Caching of files completed
9:37:05 PM #18 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Burn process started at 8x (11,080 KB/s)
9:37:05 PM #19 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2661
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
9:37:05 PM #20 SCSI -1066 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
SCSI Exec, HA 3, TA 2, LUN 0, buffer 0x0B760600
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x24
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0xAD 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x08 0x04 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x12
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x24 0x00
9:37:05 PM #21 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 659
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
9:45:25 PM #22 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
<BENQ DVD LS DW1655 > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2283632 (22D870h), lenght 0 blocks
9:45:25 PM #23 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion
9:45:53 PM #24 Phase 37 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Burn process completed successfully at 8x (11,080 KB/s)
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 8/17/2001 2:07:32 PM
File 'Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS': Ver=8.0.0.212 , size=2560 bytes, created 7/24/2006 3:00:00 AM
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.57 (1008), size=23936 bytes, created 12/22/1997 8:02:46 PM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=3.00.40a, size=36528 bytes, created 7/24/2006 3:00:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
21:45:55 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 301
Compile DVD: exit
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laddyboy
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30. November 2006 @ 05:03 |
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Back in the old days, a few years ago, I had both Nero and Roxio on my system. I didn't have any problems but I never had Nero InCD installed and like you I used Drag and Drop. However, other people have had conflicts in the past that were resolved by ditching the Roxio software, particularly the Roxio driver. Why their systems were affected and others were not is one of life's mysteries, I would guess. I've started to tell people to be aware they have the Roxio driver installed and that if all else fails, get rid of Roxio and the Roxio driver. Otherwise, meh.
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30. November 2006 @ 13:36 |
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so there are others that have both programs and don't have problems! OK... I'll rethink my advise about having both! and did you see my log? it had Quote:
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
and still it was a perfect burn!
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30. November 2006 @ 13:54 |
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Those seem to appear in all logs to the best of my knowledge. My logs always have them as do most of the other logs I've seen. The one exception is when the output device is the Image Recorder or a DVD folder. I believe they relate to a comm check on the burner's IDE channel, but I'm not positive.
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30. November 2006 @ 13:58 |
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Hey IHoe
Yes they can co exist as you found out - the diff may be not having both Nero's and Roxio's packet writing software at once. (which you don't)
If you do a google - Roxio's packet writing driver shows up as causing conflicts w/ other programs too (like the software company site - FAQ section) Whether they're just blaming it on Roxio or not - it does seem to pop up alot and uninstalling Roxio can resolve.
Since ever setup is different and no software can be problem/bug free for all users and their setup's I'd still stick w/ recommending uninstalling it.
I like laddyboy's approach - if all else fails then uninstall it.
Existing drivers:
Anything under this in a Nero log means possible driver's that might conflict w/ Nero.
Just curious why didn't you use Nero's InCD instead?
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30. November 2006 @ 14:10 |
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Hey Binkie........ I didn't want to reinstall my Nero! It's working just fine! I love it. So I used to have Roxio wayyyyyyyy back with CD creator 4 (I think), so I decided to get the new Roxio Easy Meida Creator 9 and check it out. I also found out that the programs try to put itself in the start up group when you start windows or your computer! I stopped that. Cleaned out my start up group and now have just what the computer needs to start up with Windows. And so far, no problems with Nero and Roxio or any of my other programs!~ No conflicts. Soooooo I'm a happy camper. Life goes on and I'll adjust my advise to the Newbies when I see the driver: CDRALW2K.SYS in the Nero logs!~
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30. November 2006 @ 15:02 |
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30. November 2006 @ 16:22 |
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Thank You Ireland....... but as I stated before ..... the only reason why I even installed Roxio is to use the DRAG AND DROP packet writing program so I can format my CD-RW which will allow me to backup my Quicken files to disk! I didn't want to install INCD because I know it WILL interfere with Nero.... sooooooo I tried Roxio and to my surprise, after I set my Start Up group NOT to install any Roxio files ...... Nero and my other burning programs are just fine. After burning 10 DVDs on all my burning programs and each disk came out perfect (scans in the high 90s). soooooo I'm happy I can use the DRAG AND DROP from Roxio and use my DVD programs as well! happy happy happy! it's a win win! I should just for the heck of it try AnyDVD with Roxio! Never did that.... something to do! LOL
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