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Which is better, 8x dvd-r or 16x dvd-r Taiyo Yudens?? and where can i get some real ones?
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mikej3131
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30. November 2006 @ 19:23 |
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Lookin for some Taiyo Yudens because i heard they were the best. I want some DVD-R at 8x or 16x, which gives better burns and where can i get some real ones at?
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30. November 2006 @ 20:53 |
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The 8x offerings are said to be slightly better than the 16x offerings for both the -R and +R formats.
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-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
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30. November 2006 @ 21:45 |
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Yeah stick with the 8X media for now.
Since I don't buy media on line , I found the TYs 8X discs by buying the Sony Made in Japan discs, tho a little hard to find now.
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1. December 2006 @ 02:53 |
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mikej3131
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1. December 2006 @ 05:28 |
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hey Dunker,
Are these taiyo yudens better than verbatim 16x dvd-r's????
Also can you send me the link to those Two ones you mentioned in my email or in a private message?
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Yeah stick with the 8X media for now.
Since I don't buy media on line , I found the TYs 8X discs by buying the Sony Made in Japan discs, tho a little hard to find now.
Could i get something like this at a bestbuy,circuit city or compusa? what do these sony's look like?
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1. December 2006 @ 05:31 |
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Yeah those 8x +R TYs are better than any 16X media at present time even TYs 16X. JM2C
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mikej3131
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1. December 2006 @ 05:42 |
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Someone in another forum site just said that Maxell BQ 8x DVD-Rs are far superior than Taiyo Yuden and Verbatims. Is this true?
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1. December 2006 @ 05:54 |
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no to the Maxell being better (from what i've read as never used Maxell).
as to the original question, the 8x are supposed to be better than the 16x, though i've used lots of both and i personally experience no noticable difference, whether it be recopyability/playability etc
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1. December 2006 @ 06:31 |
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I have had problems with Maxells myself. Also, I've found some holes in the "Made in Japan" rule recently, as I've been having RICOHJPN fail on me. I think the rule is simply TY is #1 and Verbatim is a close second.
@mikej3131
I'm going to try a few ways to get the link up. The problem is AD sees the "DVD-R" in the URL and wants to hotlink it to the glossary. Anyway, here goes:
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http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-white-inkjet-printable-8x-DVD-R-media.html
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http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-8x-DVD-R-silver-paper-sleeves-combo-200-pack.html
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-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
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1. December 2006 @ 06:31 |
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NOPE! The hotlinks, as usual, cause more problems than they solve...:(. The links will work if you convert the "DVD-R" to lowercase as AD is messing them up. HTH.
-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
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mikej3131
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1. December 2006 @ 06:33 |
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hmm i see i might go with them. After further review of Taiyo Yuden's, i just have read that there quality has been going downhill recently and verbatim 16x DVD-R might be a better option for me.
I actually have been buying verbatim 16x DVD-R advacned azo from best buy, but i dont know if thereare they right kind and who actually makes them. if you look on best buy, they are 16x DVD-R verbatim advanced azo.
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1. December 2006 @ 06:43 |
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Verbatims aren't bad though. Best Buy has then on sale and, if I wasn't already swimming in Taiyo-Yudens, I'd probably pick some up.
-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
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1. December 2006 @ 12:15 |
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This is another case of quality versus compatibility. I doubt that the inherent quality of Taiyo Yuden production is any different from 8X to 16X; but because they are one of the last to market with 16X media, too few 16X drives support their 16X discs. Verbatim/MKK/MCC 16X media are far more compatible, and that will make them appear to be better quality than Taiyo Yuden. If more drive manufacturers issue firmware updates to include the new 16X TY MID codes, the "quality problem" goes away even though the actual quality ex-factory remains identical.
Most Verbatim 16X media are made in the CMC Magnetics Lin-Kuo Factory II. RICOHJPN media are manufactured by Ritek in Taipei.
I believe that 8X media are superior to 16X in durability, at least. Many preliminary environmental test results (They take nearly 9 months to complete--that's why they are preliminary.) show trends of a greater growth of errors in the thinner/less dense 16X discs than in the 8X. I prefer to stick with 8X media as long as I can find them, but 16X will replace them in the name of progress.
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mikej3131
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1. December 2006 @ 12:49 |
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Most Verbatim 16X media are made in the CMC Magnetics Lin-Kuo Factory II. RICOHJPN media are manufactured by Ritek in Taipei.
So does this mean they are good? Where would you rate these ones in durability and quality of burn??
How can i tell where my verbatims are made. I buy them at best buy and they are advanced azo 16x DVD-R verbatims. here is a link
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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6965251&st=verbatim+16x&type=product&id=1099385476541
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1. December 2006 @ 14:58 |
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Taiyo yuden and verbatim use the same quality dye called Advanced Metal AZO dye. It' true that cmags make the majority verbatim dvd r media,but they have to use verbatims tough quality control standards.
I've bought many of verbatim at Bestbuy,Office max,office depot and compares to all my tys. All made in taiwan and very good media from the older 4x speed digital movie quality/media life/data life/data life plus, to the latest 16x data life plus. Those 16x verbs were designed to be burned faster,so use caution if burning at or below 4x. They keep improving their media over time.
Now if made in India,you may want to be cautious. There's even TY verbatims out there that are very good as well.
Verbatim,taiyo yuden,and those sweet japanese maxell hitachis: All excellent high quality media-top notch.
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where can i get some real ones at?
I get mine locally at staples,office depot,office max,walmart-wherever sony are sold. Look for the spindles with the white/octagon foam spacers on the top of the spindle. They will yield Ty-g02 in the -1x-8x, Yuden000-T02 on the +1x-8x, and Ty-G03 on the -1x-16x.
Not the gray or white round spacers. They are made by sony,are pretty decent,but not taiyo yuden media. Staple's is my main source.If they run a sale and no spindles with white/octagon spacers-then I take the ad over to another store to price match.
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1. December 2006 @ 18:15 |
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saugmon- Yeah buddy I bought some MIJ 8X Sony DVD-R some while ago ! Attracted By the MIJ printed on the spindle wrapper - That was before I had the whole Octagon principle down pat ! To wit ! Round white spacer & Made in Japan But Not By Taiyo Yuden ! Sony Codes . Still I have started my 1st spindle & they seem to burn pretty well ! no playback problems , Nice label surface ! -Whether or not they'll stand the test of time who knows but after burning several the BENQ seems to like them pretty good ! have'nt burned any yet on my Nec's but mainly use them for readers & or Simultaneous burning - Multiple copies at once ! But you are right with the info though ! " I would hate to know everything that would take all the mystery out of life LOL! " !!! Just kidding Bud ! Good luck & happy Christmas to you and the rest of the great green tribe !
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4. December 2006 @ 15:16 |
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Do not buy any verbs that are made in India.They are visibly differant in that they have a 'silver ring ' around the rim (:P) on the recording face, and they are of a poorer quality.Just like everything else made in india.Combine india with cmc and were talking memorex shyte quality!!
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