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smacyo137
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11. December 2006 @ 10:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just got back from the mall
While I was at games stop they had the 360 and Wii demos runing
i go to the counter and ask if i can play the Wii
the guy says i need collateral
and i said like what
he said and major credit card
i said r u serious
the other guy workin a cuple minutes later
goes or a cell phone
so i gave him my cell and i got to play
exacute truck
but why would they need a credit card to play?

so if you go to gamestop remeber to bring something of value if you want to play the Wii

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jakewash
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11. December 2006 @ 11:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
In case the strap breaks and the Wiimote goes through the monitor ;)

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11. December 2006 @ 11:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i think jakewash is on point...
if you injure another customer they'll charge you for the hospital visit
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11. December 2006 @ 12:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Probably also so that you don't run off with the Wiimote.

If you leave your card, they've got your card.

If you leave your phone, they know who you are, and have you on camera stealing.

Either way, it's a 95% theft-free solution. There will always be those crafty little buggers who 'beat the system'; but I think it will be very minimal in reality. Although it might be fun to have one of those reloadable cards made up in another name, as a gift; then after using it up, use the card for collateral and run. What are they going to do?



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11. December 2006 @ 12:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
its incase you steal the controller. then they can charge you for it and get the police on your ass






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11. December 2006 @ 16:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by handsom:
Probably also so that you don't run off with the Wiimote.

If you leave your card, they've got your card.

If you leave your phone, they know who you are, and have you on camera stealing.

Either way, it's a 95% theft-free solution. There will always be those crafty little buggers who 'beat the system'; but I think it will be very minimal in reality. Although it might be fun to have one of those reloadable cards made up in another name, as a gift; then after using it up, use the card for collateral and run. What are they going to do?
He is exactly right. I have talked with them and this is the case, plus it was pretty self evident to me beforehand anyhow. Simply put, they cannot strap the wiimote down anywhere. The stores here actually talked about in the beginning, someone asked to play with it, and actually just took off with the controller. They have your credit card in case you decide to run off with it, they can charge you... also, so they have your info. Here, they also require your ID.
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12. December 2006 @ 05:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Then there will be those that will use a stolen Credit card or phone. As it was said there is always a way.

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12. December 2006 @ 10:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm glad that people actually read my response, usually after a statement like DoomCaps; which clearly glossed completely over it, an intelligent post can be lost.

But yeah, it's a MOSTLY venerable method. But it will never be 100%. Fortunately, as long as it's in the high 90% range, they can easily afford it.



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jakewash
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12. December 2006 @ 11:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It just shows up as higher pricing, intrest rates on credit cards, etc. We all end up paying for it some how......:(

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14. December 2006 @ 09:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I highly doubt that the small percentage of people who figure out how to steal a wiimote are going to impact are credit cards, loan rates, or taxes just yet...

Not until next year :D



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jakewash
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14. December 2006 @ 10:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I was actually just refering to theft/shoplifting in general.....but as you said we may see an increase next year :(

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14. December 2006 @ 12:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ahh yes. Shoplifting does have some affect in our pricing, etc. But that's been so for decades, nothing new.

However my comment about wiimotes being stolen raising our prices next year was complete sarcasm, and I'm honestly shocked that someone actually went along with it.

The fact that a particular item is being shoplifted instead of another is going to have negligible effect on our economy and market.



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14. December 2006 @ 19:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LOL!








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14. December 2006 @ 23:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Again I was refering to something different this time, just to basic inflation. I really need to finish my thoughts.

I don't get much sleep (I look after my 2 boys during the day and work evenings till 2 AM and up around 7AM with them) and my mind will wander when I'm surfing the boards.... my apologies.

I knew you were not serious about theft and the Wii going up in price, that would be robbery unto itself.

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14. December 2006 @ 23:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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that would be robbery unto itself{

There I go again, not unto itself but by the retailers, I'm going to bed.

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15. December 2006 @ 01:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This might be the reason why? just a guess

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061214/ap_on_bi_ge/wii_dangers

I hear lawsuits down the road so get really Nintendo.




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15. December 2006 @ 02:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No they will not.
Why?
There is warning in books and ever time you start a game to hold the wii-mote firmely and not to let go whihc means its the peoples fault not the company.








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15. December 2006 @ 09:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nintendo doesn't need to 'brace for impact' from lawsuits by any means. Some attorney is probably already hard at work on a class action suit.

Thousands of users who never actually suffered a loss will partake, the lawyer(s) will partake their own fees from it, and the general customers (Whether they honestly suffered a loss or not) will walk away with a couple bucks each. This sort of thing has happened NUMEROUS times.

Nintendo has already created and is distributing a new wrist-strap. They've also probably put a halt on shipping old units without the new wrist strap. You can bet the manual has been harshly updated for this as well. This way Nintendo won't suffer any more suit action.

Besides Nintendo isn't in the same boat as Sony and M$; they've already made money on their systems, they're not as vulnerable, and they're not going anywhere. A suit on a larger manufacturer like M$ or $ony would be much more devastating A.)Because they are bigger companies, so are bigger suit targets and B.)Because they are not yet making money on their new systems, they're still losing cash, and waiting for game sales to catch up.

IMEO, this is nothing to worry about for Nintendo. The bigger concern is from the local media who keeps covering the system as a 'Dangerous childrens toy' and making it look like a HUGE liability. It's retarded, but people are taking it seriously. Thank you news networks.

I honestly believe the world would be a better place without News anchors, and networks. But one source where people can access ALL related facts, without bias, and decide for themselves. Networks revolve around fear tactics, the fear that if you don't continue listening to them, they won't be able to warn you about the next big thing. Makes me sick.



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15. December 2006 @ 09:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
People will suit you for anything today but to say nintendo wont is not the truth.Do i think its wrong for people to suit people over small stuff hell yeah but its the justice system.There alway loop holes.A woman here in the U.S. Sue Mc.Donald's because the coffie was to hot but there was warning sigh all over the hot pot. and burned her mouth.She won the case,i think she got like 90 million dollars in damages.No company is safe from lawsuits.




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15. December 2006 @ 09:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, you halfway understand what you're discussing.(And that's not an insult, so please don't take it that way.)

Yep. A woman sued McDonalds over hot coffee. The whole world knows it.

But you're obviously unaware of a lot of other info, and most people are.

What did McDonalds do when they FIRST CAUGHT WIND of this lawsuit, long before the trial started? They re-labeled all their coffee cups, the chain actually DISPOSED of the old ones that remained unsold. They put heftier warnings on the cup, to prevent this kind of thing from happening again. You couldn't re-sue them for it now.

Nintendo has probably shipped between 600,000 and 1,000,000 units of the Wii already. Most customers cannot afford an attorney who will really defend their interests in a court of law, against a company like this. The only way most customers could do it, is if an attorney, or group of them started a class-action suit on this, and attracted many clients in a class. They would open it up to all of the customers who could show proof of their being in the class (AKA receipts, UPCs, and the like.) Once a class action suit is settled, it's usually well below what it really should be, for the raw number of people involved. Moreover; once a class action suit has been settled and agreed upon, another individual cannot press charges for the same thing successfully. If they were to attempt it; it would mean that their lawyer would probably gladly take them to court, for a hefty fee; knowing that in reality the judge will rule against them, because a class action was already agreed upon; and the customer should have joined the suit while it was open.

So, I see where you are coming from, but I follow a lot of these things(It's really amusing to me), and this is the kind of thing that will really happen. Nintendo has nipped it in the bud already, much like McDonalds did, so as to avoid more suits being filed. They just have to wait for the class action, and they can go from there.



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jakewash
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15. December 2006 @ 10:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It really is a sad world we live in where its always somebody elses falt something goes wrong.

I could see a potential for a price increase on the Wii once the suit is settled to recover the money. As any profit oriented company would pass any loss onto the consumer. However, by the time it is all settled there will most likely be new more expensive units out for us to play with and squabble over.;)

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15. December 2006 @ 10:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Nintendo has probably shipped between 600,000 and 1,000,000 units of the Wii already. Most customers cannot afford an attorney who will really defend their interests in a court of law, against a company like this. The only way most customers could do it, is if an attorney, or group of them started a class-action suit on this, and attracted many clients in a class.
See what you not getting is that they dont have to have Money if a attorney see just cause to file a motion again these major corps.You only need a class action suit when your case is not that strong so they do it by the numbers to make the case look a little bit stronger than what it is.No company is free from Lawsuits.I do care how much stuff nintendo try to cover there always going to be loop holes.Most attorney are foaming at the mouth to take on these big companys so they dont have to have money up front but in most cases a attorney will take the case to see if there going to be a settlement if there is then thats how he get paid so in some cases the people who is sueing only pay what they get out of a settlement if you dont get paid then the attorney dont either.You not the only one who knows about these thing my best friend is a attorney here in Charlotte.




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I agree with you, but that is taken into account. It's even in the explanation. Even if an attorney DID go to court on this after a class action suit took place, the judges would laugh it right back out of court, because Nintendo had already come to a settlement. So it doesn't matter. You can get an attorney to represent you for almost anything, and heck, there are plenty of attorneys who will seemingly go to court in lawsuits, just for the thrill. But that doesn't mean they'll win once a class action suit has occured. A class action suit is a like a 'once-and-for-all' type settlement. You'd have to prove that you have a significantly different occurence than the others, in order to be considered for a new suit after a class action suit goes through.

And don't think that attorneys aren't working on a class action right now. A class action suit is much easier to win; and as far as most attorneys are concerned, looks just as good in their case history.

I'm not claiming to know more about these things, but I am telling you that your response was already covered in the claim you half-quoted. And now I've reiterated it for you.



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smacyo137
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19. December 2006 @ 18:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
whats this now they need a valid goverment issued id or drivers lisens to play the wii
why this jump in validation
it geting crazy
wii want to play wii with only a wii bit of collateral
(sorry had to get that out of me)

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