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ima49311
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2. January 2007 @ 10:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i have a movie that is in PAL format.. but i want to convert it to a dvd.. well, i made it 720x480, but its telling me that that size cant be 25fps.. if i convert it to 29fps will the audio still sync up? or will it go all kung-fu on me.. or should i convert it to a different size and keep the 25fps? but if i do that will my dvd player actual PLAY a movie in PAL format? thanks for the help in advance!

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2. January 2007 @ 14:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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if i convert it to 29fps will the audio still sync up?
No, it will mess it up.

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or should i convert it to a different size and keep the 25fps?
This is what you'd be best doing. You want it to be 720x576

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will my dvd player actual PLAY a movie in PAL format?
You'll have to google for information about your particular model. Most have a certain code that you need to enter to make the player region-free.
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2. January 2007 @ 15:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If all depends, do you live in PAL or NTSC country? If, you HAVE a PAL video(720x576, 25fps) and need a PAL DVD you've got it made.

If you live in NTSC land( or can't play PAL in your Player) now you need a complete conversion- (720x480, 23.976fps/with 2:3 pulldown) and then You will need to time stretch the audio to keep it in sync(easy as long it's not AC3(5.1) or DTS)
or use the DGPulldown method-as described elsewhere. Keeping the framerate 25fps(but changing the resolution to 720x480 and changing the header flag to 29.976 to make it think it's NTSC.
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3. January 2007 @ 20:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok.. let me ask you this then.. if i make it the 720x576 size in PAL format... isnt there a way to burn a regionless dvd? that would play in any player, or since the size is dfferent it wouldnt play in my NTSC player anyway.. thanks

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3. January 2007 @ 22:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What is the source file and what programs are you using.

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4. January 2007 @ 07:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the source file is an AVI from the web.. the program i was using to format it was ultra AVI converter, but i do have TMPGEnc as well..

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4. January 2007 @ 07:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ima49311:
the source file is an AVI from the web.. the program i was using to format it was ultra AVI converter, but i do have TMPGEnc as well..

Although I'm not familiar with the program it's site makes it sound good with many nice features, seeing as it specifically talks about Xvid/Divx sources it should know how to handle them properly. As with most of these apps it should do a proper PAL XviD (which is probably what you have) to NTSC DVD conversion. With an app like ConvertXtoDVD or NeroVision Express this is done automatically (if set to NTSC) and to good effect (although many times Nero stumbles, audio sync problems, on VBR mp3 audio streams which are the norm on downloaded AVIs).

You could simply test the resultant VIDEO_TS output before commiting to disc by clicking on the VIDEO_TS.IFO, or use 'Play from folder' option on your software player to see if all went well with the conversion.

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4. January 2007 @ 12:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As long as you have a Progressive source you can encode PAL to NTSC resolution, keeping the original framerate, and then use DGPulldown to add flags to make it play the same number of frames but at 29.97fps (by repeating fields). This has the advantage of keeping audio in sync with a minimal amount of work.

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4. January 2007 @ 13:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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isnt there a way to burn a regionless dvd? that would play in any player,


No. As soon as the dvd is written in either PAL or NTSC it's 'regionalised'. Post the make and model of your dvd player. Somebody somewhere will have a region-free code for you.
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4. January 2007 @ 16:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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isnt there a way to burn a regionless dvd? that would play in any player,
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No. As soon as the dvd is written in either PAL or NTSC it's 'regionalised'. Post the make and model of your dvd player. Somebody somewhere will have a region-free code for you.
Almost all the apps discussed here make the burned DVD all Region or Region free. PAL or NTSC have nothing to do with Region coding but with the TV systen used. My JVC will play either NTSC or PAL but they have to be Region 1, or all Region coded. Japan for instance is NTSC but Region 2, the USA is Region 1. Running a Japan DVD though DVDShrink will give you a playable DVD for the USA.

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4. January 2007 @ 17:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Almost all the apps discussed here make the burned DVD all Region or Region free


Perhaps I should have written 'systemized'. I take your point but a region-free player would save a lot of hassle.
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6. January 2007 @ 18:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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[quote]isnt there a way to burn a regionless dvd? that would play in any player,
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No. As soon as the dvd is written in either PAL or NTSC it's 'regionalised'. Post the make and model of your dvd player. Somebody somewhere will have a region-free code for you.
Almost all the apps discussed here make the burned DVD all Region or Region free. PAL or NTSC have nothing to do with Region coding but with the TV systen used. My JVC will play either NTSC or PAL but they have to be Region 1, or all Region coded. Japan for instance is NTSC but Region 2, the USA is Region 1. Running a Japan DVD though DVDShrink will give you a playable DVD for the USA.[/quote]


This is absolutely correct; Region Coding is Simply MPAA Marketing Coding, and is completely seperate from the technology difference between PAL and NTSC. It's incorporated into various DVD's to sell more DVD's and make world travelers have to buy different copies of the same movie( or pack a DVD player as Carry on Luggage:LoL:)
Did you know they actually have a Region Code for--- Merchant Ships, CruiseLines & Airplanes.

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8. January 2007 @ 06:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
great.. thanks for the help.. tmpgencx worked great afterall.. thanks again

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