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superdigg
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4. July 2002 @ 04:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A week ago I bought myself a Nike Psa[play portable mp3/wma player (rio based tech). After throwing in a couple of my old mp3s I started wondering about what codec/setting I should use. I will not be using these files for anything but my Psa[play (I encode the same files for quality). Mind that I will be using it with fair quality headphones and usually on my way to the university/work or sporting. There will be wind and cars, in other words not optimal surroundings for the audiophile. I hope you see where I'm getting at: I want the best sounding files (mp3 or wma - yes it's M$, but set it aside for now)with the smallest possible size. The player plays VBR BTW.
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4. July 2002 @ 09:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Use lame to encode the mp3 with

--alt-preset insane

This will only work if your player can handle 320kbit mp3s

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 4. July 2002 @ 09:10

kdo
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4. July 2002 @ 10:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
> --alt-preset insane

Haha! good joke.

As long as no senior members reply I'll give it a try:

The dude with a nickname "ff123" has performed many comparisons of low-bitrate codecs.
See, for instance, here:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1434
(Maybe on this board one could find some related threads too? i'dont know)

So, try wma @ 64 and 96, and mp3pro if your player supports it (and if you have mp3pro codec ;-) ).
Also try lame --alt-preset 80....100.
And choose whatever sounds better to you.

Lame --alt-preset 128 should sound even better (this will be ABR-VBR mode). If you are not too picky of high freqs, you may try this line instead:
lame --abr 128 -h --nspsytune --athtype 2 --lowpass 16 --ns-bass -8

Go for any higher lame bit-rate only if you find lower rates really REALLY very VERY annoying.

(But, as you said, superdigg, this is only for your player. not for archiving or sharing)

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kdo
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5. July 2002 @ 03:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanx a bunch kdo, i'll try to work it out between the setups you gave me. My player doesn't support mp3pro (yet).
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5. July 2002 @ 06:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What's the capacity of the player?

If you have plenty of storage, then you naturally can go for --alt-preset standard (higher if you prefer so).

kdo already mentioned some low end suggestions. If the bitrate is not a problem I think I would ABR to 160kbps or you could also test --alt-preset standard -Y (discards most above 16khz content).

The old school is back. All hail the new http://BitBurners.com !
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6. July 2002 @ 03:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I encode all my mp3 to:

--alt-preset cbr 192

I find the quality quite satisfying.
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