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opufo1
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22. January 2007 @ 02:39 |
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I just purchase a Lenovo thinkpad R51 refurbish for my son; the laptop has no operating system install; when I turn the lap top on I get a message "invalid system disk"
I have been trying to install Xp but I could not get the machine to boot from the DVD; maybe there is something wrong on BIOS.
Please help me
Thanks in advance
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bkf
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22. January 2007 @ 07:41 |
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I know I posted a couple of very long and detailed replys to you here but I think either my isp or AD's system was having an internet moment. So ill punch out the short version. Default your bios to the orginal settings. That will reset the boot order. There is a button in there to do that. I almost remember you asking if the bios would say if the drive was ok. I said it will not tell you 100% if it is working the way it should but would show you if the system see's it at all. Could be something as simple as a connector. Keep us informed, it's the only way we can help. After your done with all that go hit the IBM site and make sure you have the latest bios firmware.
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opufo1
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22. January 2007 @ 07:51 |
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Thanks for the reply
I did what you told me an reset BIOS to default; with no luck; I purchase a windows XP Professional brand new; but no luck eaither;
this is my default Boot secuence on BIOS:
1:USB FDD:
2: Legacy Floppy Drives
3: ATAPI CDO:MATSHITADVD-ROM SR-8177-(
4: USB CD
5: IDE HDDO: IC25N040ATMR04-0-(PM)
6: PCI LAN: IBA GE Slot 0208 v1217
7: -USB HDD
8: IDE HDD1
Exclude from boot order:
: IDE HDD2
:ATAPI CD1
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bkf
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22. January 2007 @ 08:06 |
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Now it's fun and games times. In device manager find your entry "IDE ADA/ATAPI. Controllers. Open that and uninstall the primary and secondary channels. Reboot and let the os refind them. The thing that has me wondering is why a usb drive was put ahead of ide drives. That we may have to change manually.
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opufo1
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22. January 2007 @ 08:11 |
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I'm sorry for my ignorant; but can you tell me how to go into Device Manager; remember I do not have an operating system install,
Thanks a lot bkf for your help
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bkf
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22. January 2007 @ 10:39 |
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I think im going to have to wonder over to the IBM site and do a little more reading on your system. That drive is either dead or another of ibm's little tricks with a recovery disk. Their known for that. I hate laptops lol
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opufo1
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22. January 2007 @ 11:16 |
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Thanks a lot bkf; I will wait to see what can you find; because I have try a lot of search on the internet with no result.
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22. January 2007 @ 16:13 |
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is the xp disk bootable?
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opufo1
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23. January 2007 @ 02:42 |
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Oh, I don't know; how can I know if it is! Put it in another computer and see if it boots, maybe
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bkf
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23. January 2007 @ 02:44 |
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Try putting 3: ATAPI CDO:MATSHITADVD-ROM SR-8177-( as the first drive in the boot order. That usb fdd bothers me. So if there is anything in that rom drive when you turn it on it should seek that first.
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opufo1
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23. January 2007 @ 02:47 |
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I try the a few times and nothing happend; I will get the same error message
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bkf
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23. January 2007 @ 02:49 |
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Originally posted by opufo1:
Oh, I don't know; how can I know if it is! Put it in another computer and see if it boots, maybe
If it's new and bought it should be. there would be a file called autorun.inf in there. that tells the computer what to do with the disc first thing.
Sure is starting to sound like you got a bum drive. It goes down the list, does not find anything and you get the error.
You never said if the bios see's the rom drive
All your drives should show up there expect floopies
Format a floppy on your computer as a dos system disk. pop that in the laptop and turn it on you should get an a: prompt which means it booted off the floppy but that just proves the computer is able to boot anything.
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opufo1
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23. January 2007 @ 03:02 |
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But how would I get to the file; if I try typing a command on the screen were the error appears and I get nothing
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bkf
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23. January 2007 @ 03:03 |
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Originally posted by opufo1:
But how would I get to the file; if I try typing a command on the screen were the error appears and I get nothing
You won't on the laptop. no OS. have to use your system
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opufo1
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23. January 2007 @ 03:09 |
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bkf I'm sorry for being so ignorant; but can you go step by step on what i need to do and how to do it.
Thanks a million
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bkf
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23. January 2007 @ 03:15 |
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It's not a problem. You have your own system right? Put a floppy in it. Click "my computer" you will see all your drives. right click on the a:floppy drive. click format and have the "make a dos startup disk" box checked. this will create a bootable floppy that we can try in the laptop to see if it can boot off it's own floppy drive.
Also on you own system put the xp disk in. unless you have autorun turned off it will try to run. Just click quit or no when it does. I don't remember which word it uses.
This copy of XP you got real?
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opufo1
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23. January 2007 @ 03:48 |
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can I use a CD instead of a floppy; the laptop only takes CD or DVD
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bkf
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23. January 2007 @ 04:25 |
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I don't see the point of making a cd because that is the problem we are trying to figure out on the laptop. If it can't see a bootable XP disc it won't see a homemade bootable cd. You need to put that xp disk in your system and tell me if it tries to run on it's own. We can not go any futher until you do that. We do not know if it is the disk or the drive.
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opufo1
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23. January 2007 @ 04:34 |
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Yes I put my XP cd on my PC and windows installer came out; so yeah it try to install the cd
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bkf
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23. January 2007 @ 04:44 |
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OK one more thing. On the laptop When you enter the bios screens does the bios see the disc drives? All of them?
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opufo1
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23. January 2007 @ 04:56 |
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this is the screen that I have on my BIOS Startup:
BIOS Version: 3.13 (1RETDHWW)
BIOS Date 2004-10-29
Embedded Controller Version: 3.04
System-unit serial number: 1830Y1999DNYC3
System board serial number: J1X9H4AV1GH
CPU Type: Intel (R) Pentium(R)M processor
CPU Speed: 1.50GHz
Installed Memory: 256MB
UUID: 308d4201-470a-11cd-9b4a-95923c2a67df
Mac Address (Internal LAN): 00 11 25 2C D2 9D
The is all
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bkf
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23. January 2007 @ 05:23 |
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Look through the rest of the bios screens and see if you find anything that shows drives. If not you likley got a serious problem inside that thing. I still have to find the manual and read it to see where the drive info is located. Our bios's are not the same so ill have to see some pictures out of the manual. It might be a while later as I got to go play the cancer game again today in a few minutes. Talk about feeling sick :-(
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opufo1
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23. January 2007 @ 08:21 |
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I call IBM and this laptop has a warranty I sending it back to them for them to figure out what's wrong; anyway, thanks a million for your great help time; I would let you know when I get back how it goes
thanks again
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bkf
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23. January 2007 @ 08:31 |
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It was a pleasure sir. Sending it back is probably the best idea. Im sorry you are having these problems and I hope your son gets his computer real quick.
ps: what im more sorry for was I could not help. Fixing things over the net is not always easy. Again my best.
And yes keep us informed: Learn, teach, share.
Regards Bk
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janrocks
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23. January 2007 @ 08:32 |
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I was reading this and it struck me.. A lot of laptops use a system partition on the drive. I went hunting and came across this info Quote:
Recovery CDs
Make a set of recovery CDs. From "Access IBM", follow the steps to make either a 7 CD set of recovery CDs or (if at all possible) a CD and a DVD. If you do the latter, put the CD in first, then the DVD. Then back up anything you want to preserve on the laptop's hard drive.
If your recovery partition has been damaged, you can restore it. Boot to the first recovery CD, the "IBM Rescue & Recover with Rapid Restore CD". Click on "Continue" in the flash screen, then on "Restore Factory Contents" to restore the Product Recovery Discs. Click "OK" and "No". Accept the terms and conditions, and click on "OK". Feed CDs as prompted. (More of the patience comes in here.) Reboot as requested. The system will take you to the Rescue and Recovery system
Which is from a linux install guide, but may be relevant as it deals with dual-booting xp as well. http://www.charlescurley.com/Lenovo.R51.html
Also mentioned was a set of recover/repair disks. I had a google and found the site. http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-44175.html where the downloads are.
I hope some of this stuff helps. I think what has happened is the system partition has been damaged and isn't finding the dvd-rom drivers somehow, or something like that.
Just info..may save somebody else from all these headaches..
At least IBM honour their warranties :-)
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