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23. January 2007 @ 08:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Okay. So I decided to mod my old big DS because this will save me a lot of money in the long run. I have a lot of questions and I have no idea what I am doing.

What I want: I want to be able put DS games on a card and play them on my DS. I also want to be able to do the same thing with GBA games, but I was also wondering if there is a way to have GBA cartridges and put different games on them multiple times.

1. What is the best card or setup for me?

2. If I can put GBA games on GBA cartridges, will those cartridges work in the Gamecube Game Boy Player?

3. To put the games on the cards, you just download the game and throw it on the card right?

4. Do these cards have long life spans?

5. Where would you recommend me to go to buy what I need (hopefully at the cheapest price possible)?

6. Anything else I can do to make my DS stronger or pimper?

7. If using a SD card you need a card reader right?

8. It seems like the DS-Xtreme 4GB DS-X is the easiest one to use, but is it also the strongest?

9. Any knowledge on the CycloDS Micro SD (it says it lets you run both DS and GBA games)?

Thanks to everyone for enlightening me!

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23. January 2007 @ 12:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
1. The M3 Perfect MiniSD + Passcard3

2. Yes, and the GBA/GBASP/GBM

3. Yes and no, for GBA games you can but only 1 game at a time. If you want more than 1 game, and NDS games, they need to be patched, this is done easily by using software to copy the games to your card (the software applies the patch as it is copied)

4. Yes, the M3 has 2 years of autosave battery life, when the battery dies you can still save manually before turing off the unit, or just replace the battery.

5. Divineo or ModChipStore though there are others listed in my M3 guides.

6. Stronger? meh...

7. Yes, though these are cheap as chips these days, well actually cheaper

8. DS-X can't play GBA games, plus it is stuck with only 512MB of memory, if your after a slot-1 device, get a M3 DS Simply, or an R4 DS

9. Wouldn't recommend it, unknown team - might not keep the software up-to-date for newer games to work.

10. oh, there is no 10

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23. January 2007 @ 22:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Do you have a guide that tells you:

1. Where to buy GBA cartridges and how to put games on those cartridges?

2. Do those GBA cartridges play games just as good as the real cartridges?

Thanks to everyone for enlightening me!

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24. January 2007 @ 00:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
1. pretty much everything in mr_hanky's sig.

2. yes. i've yet to see a discrepency.

XBuyer's Guide for the Confused and the DS NewcomerZ: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/466339#2829654
jgarces07:The shoulder buttons on my DS (not Lite) are not working. Any advice?
nintenut:This is going to sound a bit odd, but it works, put your lips around the trigger and blow really hard, it works.
bee_cup: My DS Lite L button don't work...
nintenut: Put your mouth on it and blow, gets the dust out, and sounds obscene!
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24. January 2007 @ 09:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Forget this post about cheap trash

Thanks to everyone for enlightening me!

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 24. January 2007 @ 12:32

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24. January 2007 @ 10:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You recommended me:

The M3 Perfect MiniSD
http://www.divineo.com/cgi-bin/div-us/dd-ds-m3minia

Passcard3
http://www.divineo.com/cgi-bin/div-us/dd-ds-pssc

The 2GB miniSD and Reader is going to cost me $29

This would cost me in order from lowest to highest (M3 Perfect MiniSD + Passcard3 with cheapest shipping included + 2GB miniSD + Reader):

Kicktrading (All out of stock, I see why): $100 bundle + $29 = $129

Gamersection: $101 bundle + $29 = $130

Getyourgameshere.com: $103 bundle + $29 = $132

Consolesource: $104 bundle + $29 = $133

Modchipstore: $107 bundle + $29 = $136

Gameyeeeah: $108 bundle + $29 = $137

Divineo: $109 bundle + $29 = $138

Realhotstuff: $109 bundle + $29 = $138

Winsunx: Its all Chinese version, I don't wanna solder anything

I am confused, does this work with a MiniSD card or a regular SD Card, Web sites are saying different things here.

Thanks to everyone for enlightening me!

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 25. January 2007 @ 17:11

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24. January 2007 @ 11:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by LufianGuy:
Has anyone had any experience with these products (Digging through the Divineo bargainbin):

MK3 2006 (512M + 1G) = $60
1. http://www.divineo.com/cgi-bin/div-us/dd-ds-mk2006

Neo2 Lite 512M with MK4 = $45
2. http://www.divineo.com/cgi-bin/div-us/dd-ds-n2l512

Neo-Max 8Gig = $80
3. http://www.divineo.com/cgi-bin/div-us/dd-nds-neo8

MK4-MINI = $20
4. http://www.divineo.com/cgi-bin/div-us/dd-ds-mk4

I'm a miser.
AVOID products made by Neo-flash, there is a reason they've been in the bargain bin for several months.


For the M3 MiniSD you need a miniSD card (clues in the title)


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24. January 2007 @ 13:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Another one of my friends said I should look into this:

G6 Lite 4Gb with Passcard = $100
http://www.divineo.com/cgi-bin/div-us/dd-ds-g6passc

Does this have the same power as the M3 Perfect MiniSD with Passcard3?

Thanks to everyone for enlightening me!

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 24. January 2007 @ 13:14

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24. January 2007 @ 13:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The G6 is made by the M3 team, it has all the features of the M3, plus a couple more, such touch screen support in the G6 menu.

I wouldn't recommend it though as there are too many cons compared to the M3:
- The memory is fixed ast 512MB
- The memory is slower than what you can get from a good SD card (4/4.5 on the castlevania test)
- You have to be careful when putting data on it as you can easily corrupt it, and have to spend ages fixing it.
- And if your unlucky like i was it will decide to randomly start freezing mid-game and evetually start refusing to load games, followed by refusing to boot at all, and finnaly sending it back and getting a refund :-(

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24. January 2007 @ 14:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What about:

M3 Platinum DIY Combo (Slot 1 + Slot 2 M3 Solution, SD Reader,2-MicroSD)
http://www.modchipstore.com/M3-Platinum-...t-1g-16420.html

1. Does the M3 Lite work in slot 2 on the old big DS?

2. I'm also afraid of the spring that holds the SD cards is going to break.

Thanks to everyone for enlightening me!

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 24. January 2007 @ 14:42

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24. January 2007 @ 18:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Forget that other stuff, I'm going with the M3 MiniSD with Passcard3.

Just warn me if there is problems with these products or praise them please.

I just need to know if this will work as a Card Reader
http://www.meritline.com/usb-sd-mmc-rs-m...der-writer.html

or should I get this one
http://www.modchipstore.com/microsd-sd-m...-usb-16402.html

I also plan to get the a PQI 2GB miniSD card with adapter
http://meritline.stores.yahoo.net/pqi-minisd-card-2gb.html

It seems to get everything is going to cost me about $136, it will be well worth it though.

I don't understand how you put things on the root of the miniSD Card though, please explain this to me.

Thanks to everyone for enlightening me!
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24. January 2007 @ 19:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ya ask a lot of questions.

card reader: anything that takes standard sd. since whether you have a microsd or a minisd, it will most likely come with a standard sd adapter. so look for anything that just says sd. anything other sd sizes it can read is just a plus.

never heard of pqi... might be a bad sign.

root= "(X:)"
where X= a letter(ummm... including X...)

so go to: my computer, and 2xclick it and you should see all your drives[(c:), (d:), (etc:)], click on something like your sd[let's say (f:)], the folder that opens up next is the root. and the heading should say ["something" (f:)]. don't go into any other folder, you are now at the root. this is important to remember (for installs and patches).

XBuyer's Guide for the Confused and the DS NewcomerZ: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/466339#2829654
jgarces07:The shoulder buttons on my DS (not Lite) are not working. Any advice?
nintenut:This is going to sound a bit odd, but it works, put your lips around the trigger and blow really hard, it works.
bee_cup: My DS Lite L button don't work...
nintenut: Put your mouth on it and blow, gets the dust out, and sounds obscene!
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25. January 2007 @ 00:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
pqi is a good card to get:

Quote:

* PQI - 2GB
o WORKS with 1x/4x DMA, E30
o GBA mode: WORKS
o Castlevania Test: 5 (4xDMA)


http://m3wiki.com/index.php/Media_Card/Mini_SD

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25. January 2007 @ 07:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I always do this to myself. I think I am ready to buy and enjoy a product, then I think of another question, hopefully this is the last one.

I still just don't see how I can play GBA-GB Games on my Gamecube Gameboy Player with this stuff. Wouldn't the M3 miniSD need the passcard to allow it to boot?

Thanks to everyone for enlightening me!
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25. January 2007 @ 08:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The Passcard is only for things NDS related (it forces the DS to load in NDS mode, even though it is running the software from the GBA slot.

The M3 can run GBA games and GBA homebrew without a passcard, just not NDS games or NDS homebrew

When you play a GBA game on the DS the DS shuts off all uneeded hardware such as the touch system, the microphone, one of the processors, one of the screens etc. The Passcard makes sure that the DS does not do this when using the M3 otherwise NDS code would not work.

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25. January 2007 @ 18:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Do I have to use a miniSD card with the M3 mini, or can I use another card with an adapter?

Thanks to everyone for enlightening me!
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25. January 2007 @ 22:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by LufianGuy:
I always do this to myself. I think I am ready to buy and enjoy a product, then I think of another question, hopefully this is the last one.
don't worry, i know the feeling all to well, i'm not all to sure i like my new cell phone...

only a minisd will fit, therefore that is your only option. unless there's a minisd adapterd for a microsd, but microsd's are generally more expensive due to the small size.

XBuyer's Guide for the Confused and the DS NewcomerZ: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/466339#2829654
jgarces07:The shoulder buttons on my DS (not Lite) are not working. Any advice?
nintenut:This is going to sound a bit odd, but it works, put your lips around the trigger and blow really hard, it works.
bee_cup: My DS Lite L button don't work...
nintenut: Put your mouth on it and blow, gets the dust out, and sounds obscene!
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11. February 2007 @ 18:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Got a questions guys
When you're playing back up games can you get on nitendo wi-fi?

Is this all i need to play back up
1.ds lite
2.m3 with memory card
Is that it? i just need to put the ds ISO into the meory card and i can just play it?

Can i get on internet with DS lite?
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11. February 2007 @ 18:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I believe Wi-Fi play is possible on most games. I have played Mario Kart DS, Tony Hawk's American Sk8land, Bomberman Land Touch! and Metroid Prime: Hunters all on Wi-Fi and have yet to have any issues.

If you're only interested in playing DS back-up and not GBA ones as well you only require an M3 DS Simply and a microSD card.

Yes. For the M3 DS Simply back-ups are drag-and-drop and instantly playable.

DS Lite ? M3 DS Simply ? PQI 1 GB microSD (FAT16, 16K)
Contribute to the M3 DS Simply Compatibility List: http://wiki.scorpei.com/index.php/M3_DS_Simply_compatibility_list
Kiwiclx's M3DSS File Repository: http://kiwiclx.com/nds/
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11. February 2007 @ 18:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Quote:
Got some questions guys:

a. When you're playing back up games can you get on nitendo wi-fi?

b. Is this all i need to play back ups?
1.ds lite
2.m3 with memory card; **and passcard3**
~OR~
1. ds lite
2. m3 simply with microsd
***wasn't specific on what m3 cart...

c. i just need to put the ds ROM onto the memory card with the game manager and then i am able play it, correct?
m3 ds simply version: i just drag and drop the files and i am able to play it, right?

d. Can i get on internet with DS lite?
fixes have been made in the quote.
note: i didn't do that to be an a-hole, it just helps clear things up for other readers. just in case it seemed that way, because i did it before, and after i read it, i thought: "man, i sound like an a-hole."

a. yes, but wifi with other ds'es may be spotty if your backup is trimmed; or just because...

b. yes, notice passcard3 was added. as well as m3 ds simply section.

c. yes, after selecting it of course.

d.you can if you have a slot-1 device (r4, m3 ds simply, supercard 1, ds-x, etc.) ~AND~ a slot-2 device that is either m3 or supercard (only). read the opera browser thread.

XBuyer's Guide for the Confused and the DS NewcomerZ: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/466339#2829654
jgarces07:The shoulder buttons on my DS (not Lite) are not working. Any advice?
nintenut:This is going to sound a bit odd, but it works, put your lips around the trigger and blow really hard, it works.
bee_cup: My DS Lite L button don't work...
nintenut: Put your mouth on it and blow, gets the dust out, and sounds obscene!
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11. February 2007 @ 18:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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yes, but wifi with other ds'es may be spotty if your backup is trimmed; or just because...

what do you mean? am i going to have problems since it's back up games? Doesn't back up games work like original games?
Quote:
yes, notice passcard3 was added. as well as m3 ds simply section

So i need PASSCARD 3 and SIMPLY DS M3???
Quote:
you can if you have a slot-1 device (r4, m3 ds simply, supercard 1, ds-x, etc.) ~AND~ a slot-2 device that is either m3 or supercard (only)

So if i have SIMPLY DS M3 i can browse right??

that's all i need to know. Thanks for the reply.

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11. February 2007 @ 19:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You misread XbusterZ's post. In terms of adapters you can choose either combination: M3 DS Simply (slot 1) + microSD card OR M3 slot 2 adapter + Passcard 3 + necessary SD card; the Opera browser is usable only with the second combo.

Edit: You have the option of trimming ROMs (back-ups) so they have a smaller file size. Wi-Fi and/or Download Play could break as a result of this trimming. Using non-trimmed ROMs guarantees the highest compatibility. ROMs are almost always distributed "clean" and untrimmed.

DS Lite ? M3 DS Simply ? PQI 1 GB microSD (FAT16, 16K)
Contribute to the M3 DS Simply Compatibility List: http://wiki.scorpei.com/index.php/M3_DS_Simply_compatibility_list
Kiwiclx's M3DSS File Repository: http://kiwiclx.com/nds/

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11. February 2007 @ 19:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
1. no, just ~trimmed~ backups. but there ~may~ be special cases. nothing to worry about.

2. if you want gba and nds playability, get a m3 slot-2 flash cart such as the m3 minisd perfect for original version ds or an m3 lite perfect (m3 pro versions do not support gba roms very well). add to either one of those the passcard3 and your set as far as gba and nds are concerned.

if you want just nds backups, go with the m3 ds simply.

HOWEVER, the simply can also act as a passcard. which means you could combine one of the slot-2's with it for maximum compatibility [and web browsing].

3. if you get the m3 simply and one of the slot-2 flash carts...

/EDIT: your welcome.
and THANK YOU, kiwiclx.
also, here's a >link< to the "opera web browser for the ds" thread. to clear things up...

XBuyer's Guide for the Confused and the DS NewcomerZ: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/466339#2829654
jgarces07:The shoulder buttons on my DS (not Lite) are not working. Any advice?
nintenut:This is going to sound a bit odd, but it works, put your lips around the trigger and blow really hard, it works.
bee_cup: My DS Lite L button don't work...
nintenut: Put your mouth on it and blow, gets the dust out, and sounds obscene!

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 11. February 2007 @ 19:19

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11. February 2007 @ 22:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks guys, I understand it now. I got one more question
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You have the option of trimming ROMs (back-ups) so they have a smaller file size. Wi-Fi and/or Download Play could break as a result of this trimming. Using non-trimmed ROMs guarantees the highest compatibility. ROMs are almost always distributed "clean" and untrimmed.

How do i know if the ISO Or ROM has been trimed? How can i always get "clean" one?
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11. February 2007 @ 22:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Perhaps I shouldn't have said that as the probability is almost nil. This topic will aid you in your search for ROMs. :X

DS Lite ? M3 DS Simply ? PQI 1 GB microSD (FAT16, 16K)
Contribute to the M3 DS Simply Compatibility List: http://wiki.scorpei.com/index.php/M3_DS_Simply_compatibility_list
Kiwiclx's M3DSS File Repository: http://kiwiclx.com/nds/
 
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