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Playback Quality vs. Burn Speed
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djjangelo
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27. August 2003 @ 08:15 |
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Is there a correlation between playback quality (or dvd player compatibility) and burning speed?
I'm burning with Nero (UDF/ISO Mode) at 4x using Ritek DVD-R 4x media and everything seems to go fine but I often get playback errors (especially in later chapters) on standalone DVD players.
Would reducing the burn speed to 1x solve any of my problems?
952 Mhz AMD Duron
512 Mb RAM
Windows XP Pro w/SP1a
Nero 5.5.10.42
Optorite DVD+-RW DD0203 w/2.16 f/w
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27. August 2003 @ 08:27 |
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It may depending on your system. It depends on a lot of things though. Processor speed, RAM, Cache on Writer, ither applications open. I have a P4 with 768MB RAM and 7,200RPM HD. I also use a Pioneer DVR105 with 2MB cache. I can happily burn at 4x, while using IE without any hiccups.
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ken0042
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27. August 2003 @ 10:49 |
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My antique stand alone player won't play anything burned at 4X. Fortuantely my burner can only burn at 2X, so I'm OK.
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AfterDawn Addict
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27. August 2003 @ 12:10 |
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lol - maybe its time you got yourself a Pione DV565K DVD player.
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27. August 2003 @ 12:20 |
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My Sony stand alone seems to play discs burnt at X4 (Ritek) as I have tried a few from a mate.
I'll update to the Pioneer 105 if my 104 blows up/expires in some way..
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27. August 2003 @ 15:16 |
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A true bargain hunter at heart. Wait for the Pioneer DVR107 to come out and im sure you will get a great price somewhere on the 105 :-)
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mice
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27. August 2003 @ 18:28 |
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how much cheaper can the 105 get guys? I recently got mine for $316 AU. What's that, about 128 pounds?
What are prices like in the UK (or where everyone else is from)?
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jonnydoe.
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27. August 2003 @ 23:49 |
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I got my pioneer 105 from www.bigpockets.co.uk for £95 (a one off sale) about 2 months ago. I am a true bargain hunter LOL
www.mp3.com/adsr - I produce various styles of electronic music.
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AfterDawn Addict
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28. August 2003 @ 03:49 |
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SVP are still selling the 105 for £100
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djjangelo
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28. August 2003 @ 08:06 |
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My burning speed experiment:
Materials:
1) Ritek 4X rated DVD-R (2 identical discs)
2) Xbox DVD Player (v1.0 w/Thomson Drive)
3) Burner/Computer (see my sig)
Procedure:
1) I burned the same exact movie in the same manner but onto two different discs of the same type, one at 4X and the other at 1X, using Nero 5.5.10.42
Results:
1) The disc burned at 4X jumped, stuttered, and digitized in the last chapter
2) The disc burned at 1X played fine throughout the last chapter
Conclusion:
1) Burning speed does matter, or at least it does when you?re attempting playback on an Xbox.
952 Mhz AMD Duron
512 Mb RAM
Windows XP Pro w/SP1a
Nero 5.5.10.42
Optorite DVD+-RW DD0203 w/2.16 f/w
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djjangelo
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2. September 2003 @ 06:56 |
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OK so I went ahead and tried my two test discs on a couple of standalone players and got the same results. The disc burned at 4x jumped and stuttered, while the disc burned at 1x played fine...
I don't understand, I know this is just digital data, how could there be such a difference with two succesfully burned discs?
952 Mhz AMD Duron
512 Mb RAM
Windows XP Pro w/SP1a
Nero 5.5.10.42
Optorite DVD+-RW DD0203 w/2.16 f/w
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2. September 2003 @ 08:04 |
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I've done a similar test with 2x and 4x Ritek. No difference whatsover on my computer, DVD player(s) and PS2. Strange....
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malum
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3. September 2003 @ 07:07 |
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The disc burnt at 4x will be riddled with errors that your DVD player has to correct.
If it can correct them successfully then it plays fine. If it can't then it will skip and freeze.
A disc burnt at 1X will have far fewer errors that need correcting and is more likey to work fine in more machines
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AfterDawn Addict
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3. September 2003 @ 07:17 |
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A DVD player cannot correct errors. All ti can do is re-read them. Now i am 100% sure about thaT!
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malum
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3. September 2003 @ 07:24 |
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All DVD players will have error correction.
If they didn't they would play anything that had a speck of dust or a fingerprint on it.
How ggod it is dictates how well it will play bad discs.
here is a cut and paste from the details of a standalone
2. Panasonic second generation super slim delicate mechanism
featuring super error correction with twin laser and intelligent
laser wavelength control
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malum
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3. September 2003 @ 07:26 |
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and here is the definition
Error Correction
A digital circuit that corrects errors during the retrieving/decoding process and may often be one of the most probable reason a DVD copy fails.
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3. September 2003 @ 08:46 |
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Yeah, but that is software related, ie software linked to the dual lasers on the panasonic.
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malum
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3. September 2003 @ 10:34 |
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eh?
It's hardware circuitry that corrects errors.
These are not file system errors but C1 and C2 errors present on all CDs and DVDs due to smudges and scratches
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ken0042
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3. September 2003 @ 12:03 |
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I still haven't tried any 4X burned discs on my new shiney Panasonic DVD player/recorder.
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djjangelo
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3. September 2003 @ 14:37 |
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I think you guys are right. I just tried my disc that I burned at 4X on my friend's new Sony (which is supposed to have very good "error correction") and it played perfectly. I'm talking about the same disc that skipped and stuttered on my other standalone.
My next question is: Where did all these errors come from? Is it my burner's fault? My PC?
952 Mhz AMD Duron
512 Mb RAM
Windows XP Pro w/SP1a
Nero 5.5.10.42
Optorite DVD+-RW DD0203 w/2.16 f/w
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AfterDawn Addict
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3. September 2003 @ 16:12 |
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Malum - its not hardware controlled, its software controlled on every DVD palyer. Hardware only works with software installed.
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jonnydoe.
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4. September 2003 @ 10:02 |
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OK,
Ritek G03 x1/x2 speed with Pioneer 105 (upgraded firmware) and DVD Shrink..
Burned 2 discs at x2 speed = 2 coasters
Burned 2 discs at x1 speed = 2 perfect playing films
Same film, hardware setup everything.
Conclusion. Burning faster creates more errors..
But as you say get a good standalone that can read anything then you can use cheap media cheap software cheap anything and it will still be ok :) Like a lot of people say reads fine on pc but not on standalone, its all software related..
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AfterDawn Addict
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4. September 2003 @ 15:18 |
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Pioneer DVR105
Burned G03 Ritek at 2x - worked fine
Burned G04 Ritek at 4x - worked fine
Ran results through DVDSpeed, virtually identical
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