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18. February 2008 @ 07:30 |
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well then I cant wait for saturday :) :) x100 LOL
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18. February 2008 @ 08:18 |
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At this point I would just get a 8800GT.
Sorry Sam, I kinda switched sides. I don't see the advantage in the 3870 anymore, seeing as I am still on DX9, so DX10.1 is useless.
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18. February 2008 @ 11:07 |
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I'm still on DX9 too, and in the US there is no real advantage to getting a 3870, but in the UK the price difference (for decent brands) of the HD3870 is so great that it's still worth getting.
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18. February 2008 @ 17:30 |
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Id rather get a ASUS HD3870 for 299au then pay 316 for a cheaper branded 8800GT when I was using my old 9550Extreme edition AGP 128mb in my pentium 3 the Catalyst drivers are so much better then Nvidia's ones to me well not the drivers just the control panel.
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18. February 2008 @ 18:37 |
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That used to be the case. Unfortunately the catalyst for the hd3870 is the worst graphics driver I've ever seen. I was never impressed with nvidia's drivers, but anything's better than these. The X1900 catalyst was fine, but with the 3870, it's practically beta.
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18. February 2008 @ 21:54 |
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Owell, I think I will still go for a HD3870.
If I dont play Crysis what is the point of a 8800GT to me my crysis install is anyway a bit wierd, I think im having every bug that has been complained about in my instal the main one is the mission does not update at parts well most of the time it dosent thats why ive had to get about 5 downloaded saves for certian sections, the aliens in my instal cant get killed when you shoot them they just freeze and dont move or anything but are still floating no matter what there like dead but cant be killed :S, so that means I cant pass the mission where you meet up with that guy that got taken away by the alien because i cant kill the waves of aliens the just freeze, im not having a great time with the game :S its a good game where it works but for me its just not working poperly.
One more thing I can get the Gigabyte or HIS version of the HD3870 for 279au but the ASUS version im thinking is 299au which brand is the best?
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18. February 2008 @ 22:49 |
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HIS is a pretty good brand, and their cooler are Supposed to be better.
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19. February 2008 @ 09:03 |
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Abuzar: Only if you get the ICEQ though, for obvious reasons. Most HIS cards currently come with the stock cooler, which is surprisingly adept, if you can get past the speed limit for overclocking.
Dazila: I had fewer bugs, Crysis is one of the games that's not compatible with Omega drivers though, and also can't be run if I have all four slots of RAM installed either, bizarrely.
For the brand, go with HIS. The Asus one isn't worth the extra money.
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20. February 2008 @ 06:33 |
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DAm I have to wait an extra week im working on Saturday this store only open until 2pm im working till 1pm :(, anyways just a few more questions do you guys think my ram isnt good :S, like its only 667mhz Corasari 2gb Value Select but to me there is nothing wrong or should I upgrade? I dont mind this ram, is another 2gb worth it now or not? if not the next thing is my faveourite case the.........
Antec 900 :)
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20. February 2008 @ 07:08 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
One also wonders why you're using a 22" monitor with setups like that. After all, while your first PC consists of all the most expensive components on the shelf, they're by no means cost-effective. I assume you realise you'd be $500 better off if you'd gone with 8800GTXs rather than Ultras and would achieve pretty much the same frame rate in games?
when i was buying ultras they was only 40euros more then gtx so why not to buy them fuck that 80 euros for these 2 monster cards ,but now gtx drop their prices but in that time they was almost the same as ultras i love them and now i am not buying anything until nvidia 10000series or ati r700 r770x2 and nehalem and if i finde some cheap used ultra later i will do 3 sli
rig 1-Termaltake Armor+(VH6000BWS),Thermalright ultra 120 extreme(sharkoon silent eagle 2000)Core duo E6850,Evga 680i sli T1 (p31),Silverstone Zeus ST85ZF 850w,4x1gb Ocz sli ready 1066mhz,2x Xfx 8800 Ultras in sli,Samsung SM 2232BW 22" 2ms,Raptor 150gb-00NLR5,barakuda 7200.10 320gb,G9,G25,G15 logitec,creative 4.1 speaker
rig 2-Thermaltake Tsunami dream casa,Aquarius 3 water cooling for proc,Core duo E6600,Abit aw9d max ,4gb ddr2 800mhz,Sapphire x1950xtx Toxic water cooled,coolermaster 550w psu,Hitachi A7K1000 1TB
Samsung SM 913N 8ms 19",Logitech G7
PSP 4.02 M33-2 and 4gb sony ms,Sony PS3 60gb,Sony hdtv 32inch Kdl-32P2530,Sony dvp-ns76h upscale dvd player,Xbox 360 premium xtreme what can i say i am a tech junkie ;)
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20. February 2008 @ 07:20 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Well everybody else I know has had fantastic success with the monitor. It's techically impossible for LCDs to flicker in the same way CRTs do, so perhaps you have a faulty unit.
Tearing in games (single lines that flicker) is caused by your graphics card, and is normal to expect in a lot of games. Some just require it, that's no fault of the monitor. Tearing is potentially more likely at widescreen resolutions since surprisingly few games are coded with widescreen in mind.
60Hz is absolutely fine for any LCD (what with the human eye only being able to recognise up to 30fps and all) since LCDs don't flicker like CRTs do. If anything, I'm amazed LCDs still have the option to increase the refresh rate since it's almost pointless.
Has it occurred to you that for 1680x1050 your graphics card setup is ridiculously overpowered in most games? Trying to force 300fps at a monitor is going to cause issues. What's wrong with turning Vsync on out of interest? It's not like it'll kill you...
Also, I strongly advise you to condense your signature. Afterdawn signatures must be at most 5 lines of text. Yours is 9.
its forced on all the time with triple buffering in nvidia control panel but i dont like the tought that this monitor slowing my highly payed grafick cards on my old sm 913n a never needet to turn that v sync on and framerates was high with 75hz and it looked better with 75hz , but this is better resolution for my cards becose 1280x1024 was more cpu dependent ,1680x1050 is more gpu dependent and games felt and play easier this is good monitor but it has tn panel and s-pva panels are so expensive so this is good enough for me
rig 1-Termaltake Armor+(VH6000BWS),Thermalright ultra 120 extreme(sharkoon silent eagle 2000)Core duo E6850,Evga 680i sli T1 (p31),Silverstone Zeus ST85ZF 850w,4x1gb Ocz sli ready 1066mhz,2x Xfx 8800 Ultras in sli,Samsung SM 2232BW 22" 2ms,Raptor 150gb-00NLR5,barakuda 7200.10 320gb,G9,G25,G15 logitec,creative 4.1 speaker
rig 2-Thermaltake Tsunami dream casa,Aquarius 3 water cooling for proc,Core duo E6600,Abit aw9d max ,4gb ddr2 800mhz,Sapphire x1950xtx Toxic water cooled,coolermaster 550w psu,Hitachi A7K1000 1TB
Samsung SM 913N 8ms 19",Logitech G7
PSP 4.02 M33-2 and 4gb sony ms,Sony PS3 60gb,Sony hdtv 32inch Kdl-32P2530,Sony dvp-ns76h upscale dvd player,Xbox 360 premium xtreme what can i say i am a tech junkie ;)
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21. February 2008 @ 09:20 |
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Funky: then you had no reason not to buy them. In the UK it's a different story though, the 8800GTX originally came out at around £380-£390, the Ultra was £500. That's quite a steep increase.
As for your second post, I don't understand a word of it. I assume english isn't your first language?
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22. February 2008 @ 05:03 |
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I dont know now because I dont know if I should buy a HD3870 I might buy a few Wii games instead or pre order GT5 :P instead or GTA IV.
Because I think I might enjoy a Wii game more
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22. February 2008 @ 07:31 |
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Well, it really depends how many PC games you're likely to play when getting a decent card. try not to think of it in terms of how many games you play now, because that figure will undoubtedly grow if you have means to play newer titles, but unless you acquire games through, ahem, 'less than legitimate' means, you're still forking out extra for those too. If you already own the PS3, put in a pre-order for GT5, no questions asked. Whether you get wii games depends on which you have already.
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22. February 2008 @ 13:31 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Funky: then you had no reason not to buy them. In the UK it's a different story though, the 8800GTX originally came out at around £380-£390, the Ultra was £500. That's quite a steep increase.
As for your second post, I don't understand a word of it. I assume english isn't your first language?
yea i never learned english this is what i picked up on my 12 years sitting on computers ,i learned damm german for 10 years that i dont know a word
rig 1-Termaltake Armor+(VH6000BWS),Thermalright ultra 120 extreme(sharkoon silent eagle 2000)Core duo E6850,Evga 680i sli T1 (p31),Silverstone Zeus ST85ZF 850w,4x1gb Ocz sli ready 1066mhz,2x Xfx 8800 Ultras in sli,Samsung SM 2232BW 22" 2ms,Raptor 150gb-00NLR5,barakuda 7200.10 320gb,G9,G25,G15 logitec,creative 4.1 speaker
rig 2-Thermaltake Tsunami dream casa,Aquarius 3 water cooling for proc,Core duo E6600,Abit aw9d max ,4gb ddr2 800mhz,Sapphire x1950xtx Toxic water cooled,coolermaster 550w psu,Hitachi A7K1000 1TB
Samsung SM 913N 8ms 19",Logitech G7
PSP 4.02 M33-2 and 4gb sony ms,Sony PS3 60gb,Sony hdtv 32inch Kdl-32P2530,Sony dvp-ns76h upscale dvd player,Xbox 360 premium xtreme what can i say i am a tech junkie ;)
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22. February 2008 @ 13:51 |
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right ok that's fine.
Was your old monitor a CRT by any chance? Because LCDs don't need any more than 60Hz to produce a decent image, they may just require vsync more often than a CRT since they produce the image digitally.
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22. February 2008 @ 21:55 |
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might as well get a HD3870 its ot everyday you upgrade your graphics card I just hope it will take me through to atleat Jan 09 not upgrade the card every 4 months.
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22. February 2008 @ 21:58 |
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It can max DiRT and Crysis at 1280x1024 with decent frame rates. Any games that are more demanding probably won't be so by that much, and if they are, bear in mind the settings for DiRT include 4xAA and 8xAF.
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23. February 2008 @ 00:35 |
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Ok but lets just say im not a resolution person like I dont really care if my game runs at 800x600 or 1680x1050 now this is where I stop and think, the Geforce 8500GT can run most games on high no lag at smaller resolutions would there be any point in buying a HD3870 there :),
My Alternative would be to if I dont buy the card,
a)Buy Fans this is for sure anyways
b)Chip My Wii
c)Buy a mouise like a G9
d) Buy a wireless router.
So there are other things I can do.
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23. February 2008 @ 07:36 |
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Well, I find it hard to believe that anybody's happy to play games at 800x600, but I suppose if you don't care about game graphics much, then a graphics card is a bit pointless.
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23. February 2008 @ 07:40 |
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I do care about the quality of the image but im a person who would rather lose a lot of resolutions then run a game on medium quality.
I need to know what a HD3870 gets in Crysis at Very High all settings no AA and no AF at about 1024x768 or 1280x960? is it above 25fps or still below and in the lag zone?
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23. February 2008 @ 07:45 |
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X1900XT at all high settings (no AA or AF) got 30fps at 800x600 and about 18fps at 1024x768. Given that the HD3870 is twice as fast you can expect about 60fps at 800x600 and maybe 30-35 at 1024x768.
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23. February 2008 @ 08:13 |
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I think I will buy it.
But are there any reasons to buy it over the 9600GT? (Hd3870) from my personal prefernce I prefer Ati More like I said ive only had a 9550 before but I dont know why LOL! I guess its just a prefernce the same reason I dislike the Xbox for no particular reason....
At the moment if i were to chose between 8800GT or 9600GT or HD3870 id go for 3870 because it has a dual slot cooler might lower my temps more the with the 8500GT because it has a dual slot cooler, I liek more because of the better features Dx 10.1 and Shader 4.1.
Im also thinking of changing my I belive 80mm exhaust case fan to a 120mm and adding a 120mm intake fan at the front, is it worth the 40mm increase for the rear?? will it improve temps at all?
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23. February 2008 @ 08:18 |
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The HD3870 certainly puts out a better quality image than the 9600GT, and it's the same price in the UK, which sweetens the deal.
As for the rear fan, it depends on the speed. At the same speed, a 120mm fan makes a huge difference over an 80mm. Adding a front fan is wise if you don't already have one.
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23. February 2008 @ 08:41 |
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no I dont have one at the front.
I was thinking ANtec 900 but when I see the price and all the stuff I have to do to swap cases Id rather add a few fans.
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