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Can north american Wiis play US burned games? + 1 question
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xopher
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6. May 2007 @ 00:16 |
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i just started doing all this mod stuff and im unsure about everything.
so i just learned about all this bricking crap... and im terrified...
i just recently dled paper mario US version for wii...im just wondering if this should work on my canadian wii without bricking
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xopher
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6. May 2007 @ 00:33 |
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my +1 question is
what happens if i dont use the LG drive to burn the games?(how to backup wii guide)
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6. May 2007 @ 03:33 |
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simple if you dont use the LG Drive you wont be backing up your games, theres no other DVD players out there that will read it, As for Paper Mario - I wouldn't even test it Just buy the Game it's worth the money and that way you dont have to worry about bricking your system, besides I thought you guys had the same systems up in Canada with NTSC like us in the US?
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Klaxx
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6. May 2007 @ 04:29 |
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I belive they do. The system I got from canada was. As for paper mario to my understanding the only confusions you could have is if say you had a PAL system and you modded it then u dl'ed paper mario NTSC the game disc has a update on it so its going to think you have an NTSC system because of the region free so thus the brick. I have been asking alot of questions about the mod chips and there is one that I really liked which happends to be the WiiD. It has a function on the chip that when you put in an orginal disc it disables the chip (this function is optional) But man I think that is the best way to go. If you get your hands on the orginal then just play it in your wii to see if it works and wants to update... let it do its deed then burn and play it. As long as your wii is up to date before you play a game you really dont have any worry at all.
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6. May 2007 @ 07:39 |
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i just recently dled paper mario US version for wii...im just wondering if this should work on my canadian wii without bricking
USA is in North America. So yes you can play USA games on a Candian Wii because we are the same region.
The brick will occur when playing an out of region game that has an update on the disc itself (Super Paper Mario) has the update on the disc.
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You have a PAL Wii that has a Modchip in it that lets you play other region game disc. So you download Super Paper Mario NTSC version to play on your PAL Wii. If your PAL Wii is not updated with the same or higher firmware that is on the Game Disc then the below will happen...
Super Paper Mario will check to see what firmware you have on your system. If the Wii firmware version is below the version that is on the Super Paper Mario game disc then it will update your PAL Wii firmware with the NTSC firmware update. Doing this bricks your Wii because Nintendo has region locks on the hardware. Which will not run other region firmware on the system.
To avoid this problem make sure your System is updated to the newest firmware before playing the game. Or do not use game disc that are out of your region.
I would assume the same thing would happen to any Wii region unit if you played an out of region game and the game disc updated your Wii system with the wrong region firmware.
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what happens if i don't use the LG drive to burn the games?(how to backup wii guide)
It would be hard to use the LG drive that dump's the Wii games because they are DVD-ROM drives. They do not burn DVD disc. All you need is any DVD burner to burn the Wii games to DVD media.
If you download your backups then you do not have to worry about the LG drive. The LG drive is only used to dump the Wii game to your PC hard drive.
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DraTs
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6. May 2007 @ 18:41 |
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Originally posted by Menion:
simple if you dont use the LG Drive you wont be backing up your games, theres no other DVD players out there that will read it, As for Paper Mario - I wouldn't even test it Just buy the Game it's worth the money and that way you dont have to worry about bricking your system, besides I thought you guys had the same systems up in Canada with NTSC like us in the US?
Menion, quit talking out of your ass, you are beginning to remind me of TabletPC. Now, on another note, it has nothing to do with downloaded/backups of Super paper mario. An ORIGINAL NTSC game will brick a PAL wii if it is put in there. It has NOTHING to do with backups/original, it has to do with the system updating a wii with the wrong format of update. For instance, NTSC SPM run on a PAL wii, that has the wiikey on it so that it can play all regions of games. The game updates the PAL wii, with an NTSC update, and from then on out, you can put paperunder the system. Simple.
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6. May 2007 @ 19:32 |
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Menion, quit talking out of your ass, you are beginning to remind me of TabletPC.
While your at it DraTs stop talking out of yours as well.
Lets take a look at your post...
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on another note, it has nothing to do with downloaded/backups of Super paper mario.
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An ORIGINAL NTSC game will brick a PAL wii if it is put in there.
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It has NOTHING to do with backups/original, it has to do with the system updating a wii with the wrong format of update.
So which is it?
First you say it has nothing to do with a backup game disc. Then you say an original NTSC game will brick a PAL Wii. Then you say it has nothing to do with a backup/original game.
Well in order for you to brick the PAL Wii with the wrong firmware version you will have to use a backup or an original NTSC(U) or NTSC(J) game disc to do it.
You can also Brick an NTSC(U) or NTSC(J) Wii playing a PAL Game Disc (Back up/Original) if the PAL game disc has a higher firmware version then what your NTSC Wii system has.
If you run any out of region game disc on your PAL/NTSC(U)/NTSC(J) and the game disc has a higher version then what your unit has. The game disc will do the update and brick your unit.
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7. May 2007 @ 09:47 |
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honestly I have no problems with back-up but in the case with Paper Mario I would just buy the game, there is way to many consoles getting bricked over it, yeah its obvious not to use PAL on NTSC & Vice versa but imagine if your back-up has any type of flaw you better hope the wii can recover from a bad update, I just don't think it's worth the risk on that game, I mean seriously look how many Threads there are out there on this game, You really want to take the chance? If it gets bricked you have nobody to be upset with but yopurself
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DraTs
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7. May 2007 @ 18:39 |
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So which is it?
First you say it has nothing to do with a backup game disc. Then you say an original NTSC game will brick a PAL Wii. Then you say it has nothing to do with a backup/original game.
Well in order for you to brick the PAL Wii with the wrong firmware version you will have to use a backup or an original NTSC(U) or NTSC(J) game disc to do it.
You can also Brick an NTSC(U) or NTSC(J) Wii playing a PAL Game Disc (Back up/Original) if the PAL game disc has a higher firmware version then what your NTSC Wii system has.
If you run any out of region game disc on your PAL/NTSC(U)/NTSC(J) and the game disc has a higher version then what your unit has. The game disc will do the update and brick your unit.
Hmm lets see, i contradict myself.. 1st i say it has nothing to do with a backup/download issue, then i say an original will do it too.. hmm.. OOPSIE you cant read! Cuz uhh, thats saying, tha tit has nothing to do with downloading it or running a backup, cuz EVEN AN ORIGINAL WILL DO IT. I'm terribly sorry, i just get annoyed when idiots dont read, and start bitching.
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DraTs
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7. May 2007 @ 18:47 |
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Ok, since you people couldnt read it the first time, let me reiterate. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A CASE OF BACKUP/ORIGINAL game. An original NTSC game, CAN brick a PAL wii when it updates. A BACKUP of an NTSC game can brick a PAL wii when it updates. SO ok, you dont wanna brick the wii with a backup, awesome, go buy the NTSC version, and still run the same risks. Anyhow, if you are going to jump on this guy about the download/buy issue.. say it like this, thats piracy, and we do not discuss piracy on this forum.
Jesus christ.
Actually, one SMALL change to my original message. An original CAN, not WILL brick a wii. Still, that has no impact on what larry is trying to talk smack about.
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7. May 2007 @ 18:56 |
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Hmm lets see, i contradict myself.. 1st i say it has nothing to do with a backup/download issue, then i say an original will do it too.. hmm.. OOPSIE you cant read! Cuz uhh, thats saying, tha tit has nothing to do with downloading it or running a backup, cuz EVEN AN ORIGINAL WILL DO IT. I'm terribly sorry, i just get annoyed when idiots don't read, and start bitching.
1st off it is kinda hard to READ what you are trying to say. maybe if you where more clear we could understand.
But you keep saying that...
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i say it has nothing to do with a backup/download issue
That is untrue. A Downloaded Backup of an out of region game can do it just as easy as an Original out of region game.
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tha tit has nothing to do with downloading it or running a backup
When did I our anyone else say a TIT had anything to do with downloading our running a backup? I can think of many ways a TIT is used but have never seen it used for downloading. Unless of course you download TIT off a porn site but this is the Wii section and has nothing to do with the subject.
As to your next post. I am not talking smack. You started talking smack when you told menion to stop talking out of his ass. The fact of the matter is there is a possibility to Brick a Wii by playing out of region Downloaded/Backup/Original Wii games if your Wii is not updated with the latest firmware. If people need more clarification then read my above post and it should clear everything up.
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DraTs
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7. May 2007 @ 19:00 |
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Well my apologies that the school system was unkind to you. However, I do not know how I can explain what I say in a language you might understand. OMG I made a typo, holy shit, i think you should rag on it. I also did not capitalize the i in the last sentence, maybe your next post can rag on that. It's just as easy to damage your system with the original out of the region as it is the download/backup. How nice of you to point that out to me, and correct me.. oh wait, thats what I had BEEN SAYING. WOW so you can correct people by saying exactly what they are? Wow, you impress me. So let me get this straight, i was wrong when I said it had nothing to do with whether it was a backup or an original disk, because the truth is, it has nothing to do with it being a backup or an original? Damn how could I have been so mistaken. Oh i know, its just who says it right? Noone is right unless its you? Anyways, if the school system was really so unkind to you, go back.
Oh yes, to make it easier on you larry, I also did not put a comma in the word it's either. Noone was used, and it should be no one. Coincidentally, I did not capitalize the name larry, which should have been.
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7. May 2007 @ 19:16 |
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I am far from perfect when it comes to correct spelling and grammar.
I was trying to be helpful when asking you to make yourself more clear when you type. But I did not say anything about your spelling or not capitalizing your letters or using commas. It's funny how you have gone through and found all your own mistakes yourself. Why not have pride in what you can teach and go over your post and correct the mistakes you obviously can find yourself before posting.
I did bring up the TIT thing because I thought it was funny.
But you can get all pissed and rant and rave but I am sure members that do read this and read the important stuff about what bricks the Wii will get the answer they where looking for.
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DraTs
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7. May 2007 @ 19:28 |
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Well, like I said, I got annoyed when people argue with something, and basically say the same thing. My original post said that its NOT an issue of whether its a backup, downloaded, or whatever. That even an original from another region can brick a wii. That was made abundantly clear, and the way you responded was saying that I kept going back and forth. No, I never faltered. I said its not an issue of if its a backup/download. Even an original can brick it. That is not contradicting itself, that is reiterating the same point. That's all, so your attacking me, saying that I was criss-crossing what I was saying, was BS.
Also, why not go back and correct all my mistakes? Because its a forum. Why bother? I was just making a point since you wanted to point out that instead of saying "that it" I accidentally said "tha tit."
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7. May 2007 @ 19:42 |
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So what your saying is a Downloaded/Backup/Original out of region game can brick a Wii if the Wii is not updated with the newest firmware?
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Also, why not go back and correct all my mistakes? Because its a forum. Why bother?
Why Bother? Because even you answered that question.
ITS A FORUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What is the main purpose of this forum? To help people!!!!!
How the hell are they to learn and get help if you half ass your spelling and grammar on post?
Then they have no idea what the hell your talking about. I go over my post every time I post it. If I read it and find it hard to understand then I go back and correct it and try to make it more clear. Sometimes I do this 2 to 3 times on a post.
I want to be helpful and try and make the learning as easy as it can be for new members that need the help.
But I can see by your above post...
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Why bother?
You don't give a crap. Just as long as you get to tell people to stop talking out of their ass and then apply what I had said about Downloaded/Backup games had nothing to do with the brick.
I guess I should have just reported this to a MOD rather then let it go this far. So my apologies to anyone out there that has to read this. I just wanted to make my point on how some members don't give a crap on how they try to get their point across and not taking the time to do it in a way new members can understand.
P.S. Such a pity on all the name calling.
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DraTs
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7. May 2007 @ 19:57 |
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hmm, funny, so far, you are the only person who has had trouble understanding anything I said. Then again, I guess everyone else must just be more intelligent than you. I'll keep in mind that some members of the forum are partially retarded, and I might have to over explain more so than I already do.
Talking to you is a waste of time. I'm finished.
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7. May 2007 @ 23:04 |
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DraTs
If you've information to share then by all means share it, but there is absolutely no need for you to be offensive towards other members..
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Menion, quit talking out of your ass, you are beginning to remind me of TabletPC
This kind of behaviour creates flame wars, and will not be tolerated. Consider this a warning.
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DraTs
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8. May 2007 @ 20:53 |
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I dont know if its because your pals with larry or something lethal, however you obviously did not read what really went down here. Hell, you wouldnt even know about this post had it not been for me reporting myself. Anyhow, if you had read the posts, you would have seen what really happened. I called menion out because in several posts he has been reporting false information, and has been called out on it by several members. I did in fact after that provide information to the thread, so your statement there is wrong too. If you are inf fact wanting to warn someone about starting a flame war, then I take it that means you were warning larry, and not me, because he was in fact the one starting a flame war, by arguing my facts, saying they were wrong, stating the EXACT same thing I was saying, and stating he was right, and I was wrong. So to reiterate, by what you are saying here, you are warning larry right? Otherwise this whole thing is quite stupid.
Hell, for the record, you want to talk about starting a flame war in threads, this entire thread should not even exist, as it basically asks a question thats been asked 100 times over, and could have been answered with a simple search. Furthermore, its a discussion of piracy, as the OP even says he downloaded it, not that he owns it or anything and that is against the TOS of the forums. Yeah, I will admit I got quite aggressive with larry, but I dont particularly like it when people start a fight saying how I'm wrong, then taking the information I provided, posting it with minor changes in wording, and saying im wrong and they are right... furthermore saying I constantly contradicted myself, when I did no such thing, it was just his inability to read that caused him to attack me, falsely I might add.
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8. May 2007 @ 22:48 |
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this entire thread should not even exist
Good point.
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