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Is it possible to overclock a 4600+ AM2 to 3GHz?
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Grayz
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31. May 2007 @ 12:15 |
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I'm having some issues here... I want to know if it is possible to overclock my X2 4600+ to 3GHz (My ultimate goal xD). I've been trying out for a while but with no success, since @ 2.8GHz windows crashes @ boot and at 2.9GHz and over the computer won't even start.
My current PC specs are on my siggy and on the CPU-Z Validator Database, adding that my cooler is a Zalman CNPS9500 AM2. Currently my CPU is @ 34ºC idle 1.8KRPM, on load it hits 48~52ºC @ 2.2KRPM
Thanks for the attention
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3. June 2007 @ 14:04 |
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Im surew its possible but there are so many variables that may affect it. A good overclock relies on many things. You need good airflow/cooling. You also need to have a good chip. Some chips overclock brilliantly when other ones fail its all luck of the draw.
Therefore in answer to you question:Quote:
Is it possible to overclock a 4600+ AM2 to 3GHz
Maybe yes maybe no :-)
Hope that helps!
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Grayz
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3. June 2007 @ 23:42 |
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Thanks for the answer! I forgot to tell what motherboard I am using. It's an M2N32-SLi with nForce 590.
RAM is not the issue here, as it can amazingly hit very high speeds.
Cheers!
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4. June 2007 @ 08:29 |
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You'll want to make sure you have an extremely good cooling system, I have 5 fans in my PC because I cannot afford any other methods. But having so many fans whilst overclocking can put your PSU on the fritz, so you may need to buy another one if you seek to keep your CPU cool.
Not taking precautions like this may cause serious damage to your PC, and will cause random 'restarting' or even the inability to turn your PC back on.
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Grayz
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4. June 2007 @ 11:41 |
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I'm quite aware of that, thanks for the reminding though.
I'm just curious xD. So if anyone knows some kind of "formula" to make it run @ 3GHz (Voltage, BUS speed, multiplier), I would gladly apreciate the help.
Its running @ 303x9, with HT multiplier by 5 running @ 3.03GHz, and RAM clock rates @ 455MHz DDR (910MHz effective).
Cheers
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4. June 2007 @ 12:13 |
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Well there is no voltage, BUS speed, multiplier setup that will work universally. And how are you stress testing your machine? You should stress test the machine after each raise in the clock. If not currently doing any type of stress testing you could seriously damage your PC, more specifically your CPU. If not using any software currently I recommend Prime95....
http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm
Once installed and running select "Test", Go to "Options" then select "Torture Test..." from there select the Blend option and then hit Go. I would let this run for at least 2hrs. the longer the better. If it reports any errors then you have to zealously overclocked your CPU and must downclock it a bit.
"Some people have no damn sense." - Nephilim, March 27 2007 @ 18:08 |
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Grayz
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4. June 2007 @ 12:51 |
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Usually my stress tests are running up a game and play it for few hours.
I was surprisingly amazed at how well it did at these clock rates, although it did heat up a bit, after a couple of hours playing NFS Carbon, I realised it hit 54ºC, but the fan didn't go over 2.2kRPM.
I also tried to speed up the computer little at a time, but the maximum I can hit is 2.73GHz @ 1.5v, anything over that up to 2.8GHz gets a bit unstable, and 2.8GHz, windows crashes when booting.
One thing I have to keep in mind, summer is near (Those temps were measured few days ago), I take that summer time is not the best time to overclock and its quite It's a big diffrence from winter (at 2.64GHz it would't go over 18ºC idle and around 28~30 on load).
Thanks for the support. Cheers!
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5. June 2007 @ 05:26 |
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Originally posted by Grayz:
I'm quite aware of that, thanks for the reminding though.
I'm just curious xD. So if anyone knows some kind of "formula" to make it run @ 3GHz (Voltage, BUS speed, multiplier), I would gladly apreciate the help.
Its running @ 303x9, with HT multiplier by 5 running @ 3.03GHz, and RAM clock rates @ 455MHz DDR (910MHz effective).
Cheers
Lmao, Wow made me look like an Idiot.
Good luck
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5. June 2007 @ 10:51 |
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Well I would still recommend using the program I recommended. Because it will show you if your computer screwed up, therefore to high a overclock. But in a game while a good stress testing method it really isn't going to show you if the CPU should spit back a wrong answer. The other program puts the CPU to use by doing intense math calculations, and once it gets its first error it means the cpu couldn't correctly finish the "app"(the math prob.) and it reports a error.
But if you are good with using the game then all power to you, but if the CPU starts to stutter/it wont run reliably then I would say its time to turn the clock down.
"Some people have no damn sense." - Nephilim, March 27 2007 @ 18:08
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Grayz
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5. June 2007 @ 11:46 |
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Lmao, Wow made me look like an Idiot.
Good luck
Hmm? Why? Sorry if I said something wrong NicHt, didn't mean to.
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Well I would still recommend using the program I recommended.
Okay, I'll give it a shot. Although as NicHt said, @3GHz (If I ever make it there by "screwing" with the voltage,BUS and multiplier) I will need some more than a single CPU fan and a single exaust fan to cool it down at such speeds.
Thanks
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5. June 2007 @ 11:50 |
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Ive always found its the little things that help?
Have you got a good thermal compound?
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5. June 2007 @ 11:50 |
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Ive always found its the little things that help?
Have you got a good thermal compound?
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5. June 2007 @ 11:50 |
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Ive always found its the little things that help?
Have you got a good thermal compound?
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Grayz
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5. June 2007 @ 12:00 |
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Yeah, Arctic Silver Céramique (less 10~12ºC on load @stock speeds versus Zalman's default compound)
Edit: My main problem is not the temp. I mean... it will probably be IF I ever get to 3GHz, which is my main problem xD.
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5. June 2007 @ 12:18 |
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Maybe if you really wanna bring out the big bucks! Try phase cooling?
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Grayz
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5. June 2007 @ 12:38 |
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Phase cooling? That sounds expensive. Ahtough I have to admit I never heard of that before (shame on me) :O
I noticed on your signature that you managed to boost up your San Diego by 700MHz, from what I know its native rates are @ 2.2GHz, am I wrong? Nice job on that OC (You have the right to be proud) xD
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5. June 2007 @ 12:41 |
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Hah, ye really. Was cant 100% remember my settings. If im hounest i couldnt game for long on thoose settings. Got it stable at 2.8 somehting :)
Shame my motherboard blew up and caught on fire yesterday eh?
New mobo in the post will post how well this mobo performs :)
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5. June 2007 @ 13:18 |
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No, you didn't say anything wrong. I just left out a smiley somewhere along the line :D
-Let us know how it goes
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Grayz
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5. June 2007 @ 14:16 |
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I'll "throw" myself into this matter on the weekend... I have to be able to do it... X2 6000+ has the same core as the 4600, only multiplied by 15 instead of 12 xD
Cheers XD
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5. June 2007 @ 14:25 |
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Whats intresting is im sure there are some 6000+'s that couldnt handle the heat at stock with the standard heatsink so where underclocked to be 4600+ :) If youve got one of them count yourself lucky!!
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Grayz
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5. June 2007 @ 23:41 |
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Whoa, no wonder. AMDs default heatsink has bad performance. Why do you think I changed it to a decent copper heatsink? xD
If even mine used to heat up alot, I can imagine 6000+'s... Although I heard that even faster than the FX-62 they don't heat as much, but I guess thats no excuse to still be using alu. heatsinks lolz º.º
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6. June 2007 @ 05:57 |
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hey Grayz
do you know what Stepping your processor is
that has a lot to do with what the highest Oc you can achive
this is a great site for comparing oc's
http://www.amdgeeks.net/overclockdatabase
even though not all of the ppl show their complete stepping
it still might help you
Gspoon
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Grayz
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6. June 2007 @ 14:47 |
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Stepping F2... from what I saw on that site, max it got was 2.86. Socket 939 4600+ made it to 3GHz.
Well, I guess I can't hit it to 3GHz. (Damn lol)
Unholy... Opterons are massive overclocking processors, amazing. I guess I have to take the 3GHz away from my goals.
Thanks for your help xD
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6. June 2007 @ 15:13 |
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I guess I have to take the 3GHz away from my goals.
Never give up! Im sure its possible :-)
As for me if anyone is intrested. Motherboard came now turns out my PSU is on its last legs refusing to pump any bloody power! Not happy so im gunna have to save up for one of them! So as for Oc'ing we'll have to wait a bit till i can even worry about that!!
Lecsiy
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Grayz
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6. June 2007 @ 18:07 |
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Hope you're right lol. You look like you're heving some trouble yourself. Good luck XD
Cheers
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