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20. June 2007 @ 23:57 |
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Ok guys whats the difference between the two and whats the better one?
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Indochine
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21. June 2007 @ 00:37 |
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The difference is... They're different! and KDE is better. (Unless you like Gnome more)
I know that's a silly answer, but, basically, KDE and Gnome are just two popular window managers for X-Windows. Sure, KDE is more helpful to new users, it has a lot of graphical tools up front for things that Gnome makes you use the command line for. But those helpful things for beginners have a way of being a millstone around your neck later on when you have gotten used to things a bit. (Believe me!!!)
This is a good discussion
KDE vs. Gnome
http://www.psychocats.net/essays/kdevsgnome
And this one has some good advice (eg don't choose your window manager because you like the colors)
KDE & Gnome Comparison
http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kdegnome
I use kde personally mainly because I like Konqueror but I quite like Nautilus (Gnome file manager) too.
Don't choose a window manager just because it looks like Windows and makes you feel safe, is my advice. To me, part of the pleasure of Linux is leaving Windows behind.
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21. June 2007 @ 12:04 |
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So if i liked ubuntu which uses gnome (i'm a noob at linux) would i want to get kubuntu because its KDE not Gnome?
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Indochine
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21. June 2007 @ 12:24 |
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if you like gnome get gnome. If you like kde get kde.
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21. June 2007 @ 13:08 |
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indeed, or push the boat out and use Enlightenment :)
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21. June 2007 @ 20:24 |
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indeed, or push the boat out and use Enlightenment :)
WTF!?! is Enlightment as i said before Quote:
i'm a noob at linux
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21. June 2007 @ 22:39 |
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WTF!?! is Enlightment as i said before i'm a noob at linux
Are you quite sure you should be bothering with Linux? It sounds like it's going to be a bit complicated for you?
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21. June 2007 @ 22:43 |
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Yea why wouldn't i be..... y did you start bothering with linux then aye!
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Indochine
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21. June 2007 @ 22:48 |
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Originally posted by reloadSE:
Yea why wouldn't i be..... y did you start bothering with linux then aye!
I didn't write things like "WTF!?! is Enlightment" [sic] and use "I'm a noob at Linux" as an excuse, in forums. I went to Google and I found out what I wanted to know. Linux is good like that. It is all there for you to find out. You can help yourself.
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22. June 2007 @ 00:27 |
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Originally posted by reloadSE:
Yea why wouldn't i be..... y did you start bothering with linux then aye!
- because i do UNIX for a living. Anyway (like most posters here), i write my replies for more than just the people who start the threads..
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22. June 2007 @ 00:34 |
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not to be rude or anything but this thread is bout kde and gnome not how you got into linux.....
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22. June 2007 @ 00:39 |
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it's about whatever it's about.
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22. June 2007 @ 00:54 |
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Originally posted by reloadSE:
not to be rude or anything but this thread is bout kde and gnome not how you got into linux.....
- sigh, you asked a question and i answered it. as I SAID BEFORE, "i write my replies for more than just the people who start the threads..". i'm obviously wasting my breath on this one, just use Ubuntu and be done with it, but if coming back here for help, be prepared to have tried helping yourself first, Linux is not for lazy people or people who don't put in the effort to do their research
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25. June 2007 @ 00:42 |
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Anybody know where I can get a video tutorial on "how to pick your nose, for complete beginners" cos I been trying really hard every day, and I searched everywhere and I can't work out how to do it.
Linux? Because Unix existed long before windoze, and for window management.. whatever floats your boat. KDE and gnome are both a bit top heavy in my books (I use gnome mostly) http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/07/18/1937231
While on the subject of wasting breath, and not looking/reading anything anywhere.. how about 4 lines of text, and 4 userbars?.. surely there is a rule about text and graphics.
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25. June 2007 @ 14:49 |
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Download an ubuntu live cd.
Download a kubuntu live cd.
Try them both. Choose your favourite and install it.
Easy enough. One is not better than the other.
Oo and something i learnt a long time ago with the people here on AD. As soon as you mention that you use any form of ubuntu you've "shot yourself in the foot" in terms of getting help!
Ehh creaky?
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30. June 2007 @ 14:41 |
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IMHO, the best is gnome. Very easy to use and light in resources. The only thing which it lacks is that it doesn't have so good aplications. However, this doesn't mean anything because KDE applications can easily be installed in gnome if you use synaptic/apt-get. Also, stop flaming people. I can't understand why you always look for an excuse to start arguing. Finally I think that you should try them both and decide by yourself which one fits your needs. However, IMHO gnome FTW!!!
PS: I also think that if you want to go to linux, you must have lots of time and will, otherwise you won't succeed. However linux are by far better and when you become used to them you will not want to even see anywhere the cr**y windows (just like me :) ).
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1. July 2007 @ 16:13 |
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You wonder why the flaming and pi$$taking?
Really very simple.. It's another of these retarded "what's the best" threads!! Nothing is better than anything else.. It's a matter of preference and personal taste. Both subjective..
The best linux desktop is the console. No gnome, kde or anything. As long as the libs for x are installed an application with a GUI will boot it on demand. This leaves your system nice and clean.. and above all fast.
It's not for everybody, servers never have any graphical desktops.
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13. July 2007 @ 16:15 |
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Is "Enlightment" a gdm/gui desktop thing and isn't mac a unix based os so wud u do those creaky?
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14. July 2007 @ 02:10 |
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Originally posted by reloadSE:
Is "Enlightment" a gdm/gui desktop thing and isn't mac a unix based os so wud u do those creaky?
- i'm gonna be lazy here , snippet from http://www.enlightenment.org - "Enlightenment. What is Enlightenment?.
Some people affectionately refer to Enlightenment as E because typing or saying the whole word is a bit of a mouthful. Early in its history, which began back in 1996, E was just a window manager for X11"
As to Mac, we only have a few of them at work and someone else supports them, so no need for me to use or mess with them. Maybe one day if i needed to use them in a new job, other than that i'm happy enough with Unix and Linux
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14. July 2007 @ 15:50 |
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Thanks creaky. i must be learning something
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15. July 2007 @ 00:24 |
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No problem. The thing i like best about Enlightenment are the virtual/multiple desktops, i set each PC to have 6 or 7 desktops each, so when i move the mouse to very edge of screen (left or right), the mouse moves onto the next desktop, the same way as if you had 2 physical monitors sat next to each other on one PC. I use this feature most at work where each 'desktop' has at least 4 command line sessions (i prefer to Eterm's myself as each telnet or ssh session has it's own pretty backgrounds), makes doing Unix all day a bit easier on the eyes :)
for example - http://www.eterm.org/pics/ss/shot_whitestar_d0.jpg
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16. July 2007 @ 21:43 |
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Snice you work with unix/linux creaky u must have must of used a fear few of distros lol
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17. August 2007 @ 00:03 |
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yup. Used to have 3 extra PC's at work on a KVM just for Linux distros and one of those was Solaris for Intel, but it got to the stage where all i was doing was installing distros and not actually gaining anything so i ditched 2 machines and kept just the 1 for Mandriva Linux which is my main work machine. Have a Windows PC too but it's not used too often
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17. August 2007 @ 00:28 |
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I have gone from Slackware (Slamd64) to openSUSE to Ubuntu to Kubuntu to Xubuntu and then back to Kubuntu, and now I use Gentoo on AMD64. Of course I used GNOME on Ubuntu and Xfce on Xubuntu (out of those 2 I prefer Xfce). On Slamd64 the default was KDE, and this was the same for openSUSE and Kubuntu (both specially made KDE versions for the distro).
After trying other window managers as well in Gentoo, including twm (sometimes known as the "last resort" wm, but it is very very very lightweight), icewm (also very lightweight, very fast, comparable to Windows 95 interface but much faster), and fluxbox (also very lightweight but it doesn't look pretty imo). I use KDE, and with Gentoo's USE flags, my KDE is very fast, much faster than the KDE that comes with Kubuntu, and a little faster than the one with openSUSE. Of course, it took 10 hours to build it from source, but it was worth every second.
I do not know if I can recommend Gentoo as a beginner Linux. It does not really really require you to know anything, just the ability to follow very detailed instructions when first getting it going. The best way to go is probably Ubuntu for anyone right now. It is a little bit bloated IMO but the community is huge and the forums are extremely helpful; everyone is willing to help each other. Gentoo has a pretty large community as well, and a channel with over 900 people in it at any given time, but it does not have a default installation (like something with KDE and apps). That would be against the point of Gentoo (complete customisation to the maximum possibilities).
After all this experience I think the only way to know what you want to is to install Ubuntu, try GNOME, customise it entirely, go through all settings in the GUI, and get all the apps you need from Synaptic or Adept. If you do not like GNOME, then get the KDE packages installed and try KDE (you choose your session type from the login screen). Make sure you customise whatever you try, and Google whatever you need help with or join #ubuntu on FreeNode. The leading window managers right now I believe are KDE, GNOME, Xfce, and Fluxbox. If you want absolutely light-weight, go with Fluxbox. If you want speed but some effects, go with Xfce. If you want a Windows-like interface, go with KDE. And GNOME would be about the same as Xfce, but a little slower in my experience.
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17. August 2007 @ 01:03 |
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Thats what I,ve been doing ever snice i got ubuntu on my computers but i havent really looked into kde though... i was told that the Gentoo fourm was rather grim... I like gnome might try enlighment next (eh, creaky)
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