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Limewire VS Torrent
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wish_bone
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28. June 2007 @ 11:18 |
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I downloaded utorrent and cant reach speeds higher than 6 or 7KB/s. Not only that but it freezes and often the download speed just remains at 0.
I was just wondering why can't I just get my movies off of Limewire? What is so good about using torrent downloads? Am I doing something wrong?
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28. June 2007 @ 11:21 |
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those are horrible dl speeds. i average around 100-300 when i download. so thats the benefits of torrents instead of limewire downloads.
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hckrkd
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2. July 2007 @ 20:18 |
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It sounds like you don't have a port forwarded correctly. Search google on how to forward ports for uTorrent. Its vital if you want to get good download speeds with torrents
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5. July 2007 @ 01:41 |
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Limewire also has to give your IP address to authoritys. They WILL catch you and sue you!
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bunny_c
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5. July 2007 @ 06:02 |
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I use utorrent.
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irish07
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5. July 2007 @ 06:52 |
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I use da new aurez and bearshare pro. But i have 2 really search for a good seeded torrent to get sumtin good dat waont take days to get.
PS3 rules. Xbox sucks balls. And the wii is for babie, lets face it.
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naj94
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5. July 2007 @ 11:36 |
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Well i use Utorrent too and i have a 1mbps Broadband line well seeded torrents i can reach upto 120kb/s. The thing wrong with your downloading is proberly the Ports Have not been forwarded (like hckrkd mentioned)or The Torrents you are trying to download have not been seeded and have no seeds and peers.
Hope this helps bro....
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naj94
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5. July 2007 @ 11:46 |
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Ohh yes and i forgot to mention that Limewire is a complete pain in the a*** because:
1. The people who actually use it are very stupid and you can get Viruses etc. onto your computer with the download i had used it before i knew about torrents and i had to re install windows quite a few times, now with torrents, nothing, because the users of torrents and releaser's are smart and know what they are doing.
2. Same as what chunkhead said really your IP address is revealed and is very easy to get caught.
3. Limewire's speed's on my one hardly ever reaches 5kb/s for e.g. i was downloading something and it had connected with another 20 hosts and donwload speed was at 0!!!!!
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Headborg
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6. July 2007 @ 20:16 |
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Your IP is completely revealed with torrents as well, so there really is no difference in that regard. However, with XXXXWire and other clients using the Gnutella network, you're sharing Whole files, you're not beginning to share anything until the file is fully downloaded....which makes it perfect for "Very Smart" Hackers to embed virus, wrap/conceal trojans in these "complete" files....you must scan everything b4 opening
these. torrents of course are different....files with virus and other crap is quickly located/ filtered sooner by more peers b4 they have a chance to multiply. This is one reason why some torrents never complete...other peers find the garbage and delete before there are any complete seeds available.
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bunny_c
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7. July 2007 @ 00:28 |
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To keep safe from all anti-piracy agencies, download PG2.
PeerGuardian 2 is Phoenix Labs? premier IP blocker for Windows.
PeerGuardian keeps organizations and individuals from collecting data about Downloaders without there consent,in other words,it prevents you from being caught.
Download it HERE
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Headborg
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7. July 2007 @ 09:38 |
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I hate to burst your bubble on the peer guardian 2 firewall..but it's about as effective as a "sheep skin" condom....if it makes you feel save
I guess that's one thing...but it really does little more than block a database of known IP addresses associated with RIAA, MPAA,BSA other groups.....if they really want to snoop around they can get a brand new IP address and do all the snooping they want before the peer guardian people have a chance to update the database of blocked IP's.
But, if it makes you feel safe....
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bunny_c
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8. July 2007 @ 01:11 |
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I hate to burst your bubble on the peer guardian 2 firewall..but it's about as effective as a "sheep skin" condom....if it makes you feel save
I guess that's one thing...but it really does little more than block a database of known IP addresses associated with RIAA, MPAA,BSA other groups.....if they really want to snoop around they can get a brand new IP address and do all the snooping they want before the peer guardian people have a chance to update the database of blocked IP's.
But, if it makes you feel safe....
Peerguardian is updated on a regular basis.
Do you think that the RIAA,MPAA,BSA are going to take the time to change there Ip address every time it's blocked by a user?
Of course that if these associations really wanted to catch someone they could, but I'd rather have a little protection then nothing.
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little more than block a database of known IP addresses associated with RIAA, MPAA,BSA other groups.....
That's not bad for a start.
PS: If you don't feel secure with peerguardian,download a program that masks your ip.
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321obbig
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8. July 2007 @ 02:21 |
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peerguardian is better than nothing.
Is that limewire or Viruswire!
You can never be safe, you can only reduce the risks.
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Headborg
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8. July 2007 @ 07:51 |
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Peerguardian 2 isn't updated that regularly....
nothing that's free has that much support
Having it on your system is Advertising that you do "things" you want to hide. It 'auto updates' so if peerguardian is ever compromised...everyone that uses the program will be known--nothing like 'one stop-hacking' to find all the suspect IP's.
it's like building a 700 mile fence along a 2000 mile border and thinking it will keep 'em out..no, the anti-piracy people will just spoof their IP and walk right around and snoop all they want...or hire another investigative agency to do the snooping with a different IP....
I'd suggest (1) a virtual drive
(2) yes, mask you IP or at least a dynamic IP instead of a static
(3) VPN with encryption
Transfer, all torrents and downloaded material off your PC to a removable HD or disc a.s.a.p. then Bleach/scrub your system regularly....but, this last process means you won't be able to seed very much and your Ratio will suffer.
But, if you registered at one of the Torrent sites that keep stats on it's members....you're probably already screwed....as soon as they're raided/shut down.....they're make a bargain , roll over on you and give 'em all their member's ISPs & email address etc.
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bunny_c
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8. July 2007 @ 09:22 |
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Peerguardian 2 isn't updated that regularly....
nothing that's free has that much support
Having it on your system is Advertising that you do "things" you want to hide. It 'auto updates' so if peerguardian is ever compromised...everyone that uses the program will be known--nothing like 'one stop-hacking' to find all the suspect IP's.
it's like building a 700 mile fence along a 2000 mile border and thinking it will keep 'em out..no, the anti-piracy people will just spoof their IP and walk right around and snoop all they want...or hire another investigative agency to do the snooping with a different IP....
I'd suggest (1) a virtual drive
(2) yes, mask you IP or at least a dynamic IP instead of a static
(3) VPN with encryption
Transfer, all torrents and downloaded material off your PC to a removable HD or disc a.s.a.p. then Bleach/scrub your system regularly....but, this last process means you won't be able to seed very much and your Ratio will suffer.
But, if you registered at one of the Torrent sites that keep stats on it's members....you're probably already screwed....as soon as they're raided/shut down.....they're make a bargain , roll over on you and give 'em all their member's ISPs & email address etc.
Hedborg,
I'm not claiming that Peerguardian keeps you completely
safe,nevertheless,I am claiming that it gives protection to a certain extent.
Anti-piracy agencies aren't interested in people who download a couple of movies a week or a couple of songs,there interested in catching big downloaders that resell the downloaded music,movies,...
Using P2P clients isn't illegal, downloading copyrighted things through P2P clients is.Therefore,if The RIAA and other agencies were to "raid" a private torrent site they wouldn't be able to arrest everybody signed up because being "signed up" isn't illegal.
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it's like building a 700 mile fence along a 2000 mile border and thinking it will keep 'em out..no, the anti-piracy people will just spoof their IP and walk right around and snoop all they want...or hire another investigative agency to do the snooping with a different IP....
I don't see what fences and borders have to do with anti-pîracy agencies but...
Lets try and explain this using fences and borders if that's easier for you; If you were in charge of an army and you had to the choice in between two countries to attack,one with no fence and one with a 700 mile fence,which one would you attack?
Same for anti-piracy agencies.
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8. July 2007 @ 09:44 |
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"Some people have no damn sense." - Nephilim, March 27 2007 @ 18:08 |
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Headborg
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8. July 2007 @ 15:15 |
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Using P2P clients isn't illegal, downloading copyrighted things through P2P clients is.Therefore,if The RIAA and other agencies were to "raid" a private torrent site they wouldn't be able to arrest everybody signed up because being "signed up" isn't illegal.
Yes, very right....but arresting is one thing, suing is another! what they probably would do is bait the members by uploading their own torrent donated by some company they represent(say Adobe)include a Keygen with the torrent, then since the private site is a "tracker" and keeps data on WHICH torrents...their members have downloaded(and seeded) there's the "smoking gun" and the site usually will "rollover" on their members to avoid jail time themselves.
Yes, you're right....they are not after the little fish...mostly the big fish, and the hackers.
Most of the millions of peers involved in file sharing are like motorist driving down the Venture Freeway...behind a Brinks Armored Car with a disgruntled security guard throwing the cash out the Back!
Of course we're going to help ourselves.
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8. July 2007 @ 15:37 |
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@ bunny c
If I was in charge of the Army and their country had a fence or didn't have a fence, it would matter not. I am going to fight the war to win. The bombs will take out all the fences and towns before the combat fighting starts. It won't be a politically correct war.
But I do agree- PG is better than nothing.
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Headborg
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8. July 2007 @ 20:55 |
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Originally posted by garmoon:
@ bunny c
If I was in charge of the Army and their country had a fence or didn't have a fence, it would matter not. I am going to fight the war to win. The bombs will take out all the fences and towns before the combat fighting starts. It won't be a politically correct war.
But I do agree- PG is better than nothing.
I agree as well- PG is better than NOTHING..but to say hey install this ONE program and you'll be safe now run along and Share is a bit too far.
as for the Fence thing Fence=fireWall...Fence~wall...border~intruder
but as for an Army/ full scale invasion...take the Maginot Line for example: end of WWI France builds a defensive line along the border with Germany.....What did Germany do...They simply went around it.
you can google PeerGuardian effectiveness....and see there's
a lot of debate over it's effectiveness.....I'm simply in the camp that questions it.
If you ask me if our troops in Iraq should have Body Armor....
I'd say Hell Yes...and what they have is better than NONE...but, they
should have DragonSkin! Over what they are using now.
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14. July 2007 @ 08:00 |
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Hey wish_bone, I think you need to see DVDBack's guide on how to increase your dl speed in Utorrent. But in any case, here are some basic rules for you to have at least a good speed:
1.) Make sure the torrent or file that you are downloading has a very good amount of seeders. 40-80 seeders is enough to bring at least 40-60KBPS dl speed
2.) If you have a router, make sure you portforward it so that it won't block any incoming connections from the peers (VERY IMPORTANT)
3.) It also depends on what connection, cable, dsl, etc you have.
4.) Here's the guide> Click
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tencows
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15. July 2007 @ 05:38 |
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Here's my post on some thoughts about peer guardian and the like and their effectiveness: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/395674/3235741
I really think all the authorities laugh their asses off at all of these claimed "how to avoid detection" type programs and guides. To use the fence analogy I think its more like having a 2-mile fence that is very probably not even along your border.
And theres no such thing as a program to "mask your IP", short of setting up a tunnel that gets natted at the other end, but you're not gonna find such a service anywhere for free. Likewise the authorities aren't gonna "spoof their IP". Spoofing results in a one-way connection only which is of no use to them.
Its absolutely trivial for anyone with even a small amount of resources and know-how to change their IPs very frequently.
Edit: I'm talking of course about authorities wanting to track down piracy and/or kiddie porn etc. Blocking out spammers, viruses, etc is much easier since these people are generally not gonna care if 10% of their targeted victims block them, since 90% will still get their spam/virus/whatever. Anti-piracy organizations are going to know that most likely the top offenders WILL be more inclined to use things like peer guardian so they will of course have a greater interest in circumventing those.
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